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Oh I was thinking whatever, just nice stuff you think the other person might like, based on their answers to the questionnaire - you could send completed things if you wanted! Yarn if you wanted! Chocolate if you wanted! Er unless US post is wacky with regards to food and liquids being sent right now (?? is it?? i have no idea)!

― Sarah, Friday, 16 March 2007 16:04 (nineteen years ago)

I don't either! although I don't think the xray every package or anything.

― Ms Misery, Friday, 16 March 2007 16:06 (nineteen years ago)

My mom sends me chocolates from half way across the country, so at least inter-continental food packages should be okay!

― molly mummenschanz, Friday, 16 March 2007 16:08 (nineteen years ago)

Hmmm well I think it would probably be OK, more at risk of being nicked by A.N Naughty P0stie but see:

This applies to any manufactured food or drink for either humans or animals but does not apply to homemade or manufactured foods being sent as a personal gift to individual people in the USA but you should clearly indicate this on the Customs form that this the case. If you don’t do this your parcels or packets containing food or drink may be returned to you or even destroyed.

So you totally can't send anything unless you jump through hoops UNLESS it's a personal gift and clearly indicated, so er yeah that's clear... should be OK, this is no doubt only of interest to ME though :)

― Sarah, Friday, 16 March 2007 16:12 (nineteen years ago)

Link

― Sarah, Friday, 16 March 2007 16:13 (nineteen years ago)

or even destroyed.

That's a little harsh isn't it?

― Ms Misery, Friday, 16 March 2007 16:23 (nineteen years ago)

Government guidelines are not a laughing matter, ma'am. Now if you'll please step into this holding cell...

Oooh this is EXCITING! More emails please...

― Sarah, Friday, 16 March 2007 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

The customs form usually has a spot to write GIFT!!!!!! when you also put the declared value.

― tokyo rosemary, Friday, 16 March 2007 16:40 (nineteen years ago)

I'm cuckoo for etsy. I just bought this.

― molly mummenschanz, Friday, 16 March 2007 21:35 (nineteen years ago)

well, I wouldn't get anything and Nath wouldn't have to send anything.

I know, I'm a bit cuckoo for saying this - my husband would def say so - but I want to be a proper participant!

― nathalie, Saturday, 17 March 2007 08:45 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, we should figure out what size needles aren't common in each participants countries (like 3mm/ us 2.5 needle)(altho maybe I'm the only one who knits on such sizes??).

― tokyo rosemary, Saturday, 17 March 2007 12:59 (nineteen years ago)

actually, I have a couple of ideas for questionnaire questions, I'll email you them, Sarah.

― tokyo rosemary, Saturday, 17 March 2007 13:00 (nineteen years ago)

As I have European and Japanese (American?) size needles, I can handle ANYTHING. Well, my needles can, but my hands NOT. :-)

― nathalie, Saturday, 17 March 2007 13:53 (nineteen years ago)

Oh yes, please do! I didn't mean to give the impression that it was hard to find certain needle sizes here by the way, I'm sure I've seen quite a few places online offering them as standard - it's just that that size wasn't generally made here so most UK companies continue not to make them. That's the only one affected I think.

I nearly took my knitting to Wembley today but decided not to take the piss...

I've turned the sock heel! Hooray!

― Sarah, Saturday, 17 March 2007 18:38 (nineteen years ago)

bump : come on ILx Secret Pal fans - only three people have signed up so far and er, well I'm sure there's at least four of you who'd like to play!

I'm now a couple of inches up the leg of the nu-rave socks - Jonathan Creek is SO conducive to knitting you would not believe! LA LA LARR LARR doo doo odoo da da dooo dooooo DAA (that is "danse macabre" if you could not tell). I am enjoying knitting so MUCH at the moment!

next up I would like to make an Jonathan Creek and also a JUMPER. I feel like trying something in the round because I am no good at matching up front/back sizes accurately, but I can only think of knitty's 'tempting' variations, and the leftovers tank top right off the top of my head. Frankly I am sure a tank top would be pretty easy to do in the round, you'd just knit the front and back from the armpits up flat, I imagine... but then what if yr guage knitting flat is totally different to yr knitting in the round and error, error? Who cares, I suppose.

― Sarah, Monday, 19 March 2007 13:56 (nineteen years ago)

sarah, did you get my mail? (or did I forget to send it. . .)

I made a bunch of embrodired dish clothes a few years ago for an ILx 40things trade. didn't have a digital camera then so took no pics. :( I should try to remember who got them and ask them to send my a picture.

― Ms Misery, Monday, 19 March 2007 14:00 (nineteen years ago)

I finished baby blanket. Is it just me, but I'm not up for knitting much. :-( I think it's hormones and upcoming spring. *sigh* But I do WANT to. Really. :-) I watched most of the 24 seasons (2 till 5 or is it four?) and now I'm reading to KNIT PROPER ITEMS. :-D

― nathalie, Monday, 19 March 2007 14:03 (nineteen years ago)

Got it! I sort of want to keep people in it a secret but I suppose we are so few that there might not be much point - is there anyone reading who doesn't quite know what the Secret Pal thing is about and would like a bit more info?

― Sarah, Monday, 19 March 2007 14:06 (nineteen years ago)

I knit 2 mice from Stitch n'Bitch Nation (the 2nd one), for the cats, and included tiny bags of catnip (hooray for the sewing machine!). They turned out really well, although I thought the pattern was a little bit whack for the first few rows. Anyway, within 2 minutes of giving Biff one of the stuffed mice, he started pulling at its eyes and tried to kill it, essentially. A hit with teh cats!

― molly mummenschanz, Monday, 19 March 2007 17:30 (nineteen years ago)

I've been commissioned to make some kufis for my brother's friends. they are african type hats that looke kind of like this

It seems the pattern would be a pretty simple skull cap but I'm wondering if it would be better crocheted than knitted. my crochet skills are not as hot as knit and I'm also not sure how I might do a chart in crochet.

hmm. . .education in order.

― Ms Misery, Monday, 19 March 2007 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

this secret pal thing sounds grand!

I had a knitting dream! It was making a fancy border on a sweater, and I was actually reading a chart in my dream. I have a hard time reading charts when I'm awake, so this was quite a nice thing :)

― patita, Monday, 19 March 2007 20:47 (nineteen years ago)

Oh dear, I have discovered Japanese craft books.

― tokyo rosemary, Monday, 19 March 2007 22:16 (nineteen years ago)

Which ones do you mean, Rosemary? I might get some more when I go to Japan (yet again!) in June. I discovered that you have to read the charts differently, but I'm sure I'll figure it out.

Yesterday it was knitting course time again! We learned to make a cable which *splits* in the middle and wraps around the collar. Uhuh. How am I ever going to learn and REMEMBER all this? Mucho hard. Well, the cable thingie wasn't *that* bad, although I did make a minor mistake here and there. But I discovered that from next year the cost of the course almost DOUBLES: it'll cost 150 euros. WTF. I'm enrolling of course, but srsly what the fuck! For the retired people, who enroll mostly for socializing, this will be a difficult matter. Also, now we have *modules*: we can take basic knitting, creative knitting, relief knitting, colour knitting, accessory knitting and... can't remember. We all decided that we would do relief knitting so monday evening will be us lot doing knitting part II. Hurrah!

We also talked and looked at *art knitting* (which is basically lace knitting, but as lace is a specific thing in Belgium - unrelated to knitting - we don't call it lace knitting). The teacher said it was EXTREMELY difficult. Only 2 out of 14 people got it right in the other class! I'm still intrigued by it, though I doubt I'll be doing the round thing with DPNs YUCK!) or the square border one. NO WAY. Looked very nice though!

I also had a hot chocolate. Yum! :-)

― nathalie, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 10:04 (nineteen years ago)

I bought an amigarumi pattern book, because it was so cute! And some how to sew stuffed creatures book, and one how to make glove and sock animals.

I've read that once you can figure out what each symbol means in the crochet chart, you really don't need to be able to read Japanese.

Although I know a bookstore owner who knows Japanese, so maybe I'll show him my new books and see if he understands it.

― tokyo rosemary, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 11:54 (nineteen years ago)

Well, it's not the symbols, it's more the way the chart is read. They for example include the cast on row and read from right to left (at the start) and so on...

― nathalie, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 12:48 (nineteen years ago)

nath, your courses astound me.

― Ms Misery, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 13:16 (nineteen years ago)

Urgh, I know what you mean. The point is that we don't really need to know this *now*, but see this as a longterm project. The teacher said that in a couple of years we'll suddenly *get* it. I know what she means: there's a certain logic to it, something that will hard for me to grasp because I have zero *insight* in these things. It's very highpaced, but considering what I learned so far, I'm certainly trying to hang in there. I really don't want to give up this course even though I not only want to enroll in a lacemaking course but also will have to deal with two kids. I have to realize that the course really pushes me (and the others). I don't think I'd even contemplate knitting a sweater if I hadn't taken this course. I'd probably still be knitting scarves or something. :-)

― nathalie, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 13:25 (nineteen years ago)

Here is the latest picture of my sock - I'm afraid it isn't a very good picture though. How is good knitting pictures made?!

― Sarah, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 13:40 (nineteen years ago)

Looks GREAT to me! (Picture AND sock.)

― nathalie, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 13:43 (nineteen years ago)

that sock looks excellent.

I've put away the sock for a minute as I'm now working on a kufi. and I'm going to switch back to wendy's toe up sock pattern which I tried before.

― Ms Misery, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 13:46 (nineteen years ago)

Ladies, I sold my dish cloth on Etsy! And it was my only thing listed! I'm so excited!

I'm going to go home and whip some more out. I'm determined. I really ought to worik on those baby pants, though. Ugh.

― molly mummenschanz, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:26 (nineteen years ago)

hooray!!! congrats!! (do you mind saying how much you sold it for? also where did you get the pattern?)

― Ms Misery, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:28 (nineteen years ago)

Ooo blimey - congrats! (erm though didn't you make it from a c0mmerc1ally available pattern like?! isn't that a bit, erm... you know... ahem, just saying like...)

Patita - email me if you want in on the secret pal thing! I'll hopefully stick up a questionnaire for all secret pallers to fill in tonight (zoe if you have suggestions mail them to me asap)!

― Sarah, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:28 (nineteen years ago)

Thank you! I sold it for $5. It was made of the uber-cheap Peaches'n'Creme cotton yarn (where the pattern can be found on the inside of the wrapper). $5 for 2 evenings' worth of tv-watching-while-knitting-and-sitting-on-couch is fine with me!

― molly mummenschanz, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:36 (nineteen years ago)

what is the usual protocal for selling stuff from someone else's pattern?

― Ms Misery, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:37 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, I don't think it matters, esp. if this pattern is sold with the yarn. Did I read somewhere that patterns aren't copyrighted?

Also, if I type it out, I'd be happy to email it to any interested parties. It's really easy.

― molly mummenschanz, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:39 (nineteen years ago)

Er dude... I think it does - copyright applies instantly once the work is created, practised, reduced to form, whether it is marked as copyright or not - I hate to be a party pooper esp as this is only like $5 USD but this can get pretty hot water... I am going on UK law here but I don't think US copyright law changes in this respect.

― Sarah, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:47 (nineteen years ago)

it's something I was wondering about b/c this pattern for kufi hats I found seems pretty easy and I figured if I could bust them out quickly they might be something to sell. But I figured I'd have to alter the original pattern somehow to make it my own.

― Ms Misery, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:48 (nineteen years ago)

Ah - read this...

― Sarah, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:50 (nineteen years ago)

Haha! Sarah, I just found that as well. "It's not from a trusted resource," said the librarian.

# So-and-so really likes the (insert-the-project-of-your-choice-here) I made from a copyrighted pattern and s/he wants me to sell her/him this item. Can I?

* Here is the subtle difference. When money is exchanged, even among friends, you need to make sure that the designer allows this as indicated in the copyright notice of the pattern.

* Many patterns include a statement similar to "this item may not be made for sale" or "may only be made for your own personal use." Even if such a statement is not actually included in the copyright notice, you need to treat it as though it were included. You need to receive permission from the copyright holder before you can offer this item for sale.

* As a general rule, if So-and-so is asking or hiring you to knit an item for them while they purchase the copyrighted pattern and yarn, then this is OK. However, if you yourself first knit up an item from a copyrighted pattern and then offer it for sale, this is not OK.

― molly mummenschanz, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:52 (nineteen years ago)

Ok, the pattern I'm using was re-printed in the Mason Dixon Knitting book, and I can't remember (I've had NO coffee this morning) if they said it was just *that* pattern, or all patterns (hence the question mark).

― molly mummenschanz, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:54 (nineteen years ago)

I always assume when I see people selling knitted items it is from their own pattern.

― Ms Misery, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:55 (nineteen years ago)

Here's something to ponder: What if you modify the pattern a bit, like I *had* to, for my knit catnip mice? I do want to try selling those, and I've obv. modified the pattern. I should probably look at the etsy site.

― molly mummenschanz, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:56 (nineteen years ago)

The UK IP portal is trustworthy though and that's fairly concurrent with the site (it's a few google hits down from that one). If you REALLY want I can ask our specialist we have in the office today but erm, it would be a bit embarassing as he's super busy at the moment!

― Sarah, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:57 (nineteen years ago)

If it's a "substantial" difference (analguous to 'the novel step' in patents maybe?!) I think it's more okay and the copyright would rest with you... NB like, I am just making this up of the top of my head...

― Sarah, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:03 (nineteen years ago)

Bah. I'm not concerned, really, as the pattern is easily available, and I made it my own. I doubt I'm going to the knitting clink.

― molly mummenschanz, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:03 (nineteen years ago)

et voila

― molly mummenschanz, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:05 (nineteen years ago)

I totally want to make one! Although I have no cotton and am banning myself from obtaining more STUFF whilst making zero inroads into my existing stash (although that is being worked on mind)!

Gym tonight or straight home to knit. I wonder if one could knit on the treadmill. With a little bag...

― Sarah, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:10 (nineteen years ago)

I have SO MUCH cotton yarn, Sarah! And it's so cheap and wonderful! Well, if we get "hooked up" as secret pals at some point, you can guess what you'll get from me.

― molly mummenschanz, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:16 (nineteen years ago)

tokyo r/z: crafting japanese blog!

have you seen this? the stuff is really, really adorable.

― molly mummenschanz, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:39 (nineteen years ago)

Skipping 1069 messages at this point... Click here if you want to load them all.

is it the same as the chain bind off, just not knitting as you do it? i'm using the decrease bind-off, which is neater than sewn (which i always make mistakes at and lose track of, then impossible to undo) and as fast as chain but much stretchier. also appears less bulky than the chain bind-off. i think i have about 200 stitches left but i need to just stop for the day. i'll probably not stop though. i can't!

― flatizza (harbl), Sunday, 24 August 2014 20:49 (eleven years ago)

yeah, i did it

― flatizza (harbl), Sunday, 24 August 2014 23:18 (eleven years ago)

one year passes...

my cat is obsessed with the cables on circular needles. i have to hide them while i work on something because she will chew them to hell. she never ever scratches me on purpose but today i think she did because she was laying on the bed and pretended to be spooked by something then ran over my arm causing a deep scratch so i had to get up and wash it out and when i came back she was chewing on a cable. it was planned. asshole.

― #amazing #babies #touching (harbl), Monday, 2 November 2015 22:18 (ten years ago)

one month passes...

I got a sock loom for Christmas.

― tokyo rosemary, Thursday, 31 December 2015 04:48 (ten years ago)

Also, this fall my yarn shop friend moved ... to be the new editor of Interweave Knits!!!

― tokyo rosemary, Thursday, 31 December 2015 04:50 (ten years ago)

finally gonna bookmark the knitting thread, maybe will ramble a bit at some point. I finished my first sweater a couple months ago!

― pizza rolls are a food that exists (silby), Thursday, 31 December 2015 06:10 (ten years ago)

Cool!

― tokyo rosemary, Thursday, 31 December 2015 13:58 (ten years ago)

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