You Want Superman Revamp? [Also the Man of Steel (2013) thread]

not step-printing, i mean ramping

woah @ drums credits

The action in this film - which is basically massive, grey CG superstructures being smashed into over and over and over again - is just so hatefully loud and monotonous as to be mind-numbing. The rest is simply incompetent, unwatchable shit.
One of the very worst films of the past decade.

Outside of some Batman antics Iron Man 3 is the only superhero movie I've genuinely liked since the Donner Supermans. Managed to break with that dreary TONE all of them have. Hate The Avengers with a vengeance, Watchmen was a hot mess but not nearly as annoying. Thought the trailers to this looked terrible, heavy-handed seriousness, everything Superman shouldn't be. Not surprised it's bad but was expecting critics to lap it up as 'decent enough' anyway.

Batman Returns is still the best superhero movie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoSfp3KGwzw

Really, how do you top this?

Otm. Well it's the best Batman movie for sure. Best live-action Batman movie anyway.

That reminds me, I need to finally watch "Mask of the Phantasm".

Yep.

geez i haven't seen batman returns in 21 years

the only superhero movies that i wouldn't mind watching again are superman the movie, superman 2, and spider-man

ok i'd watch superman 3 again, but not because it's good

actually i'll rep for both hellboy films

batman returns would've been great if it had the confidence not to be a bunch of noisy obnoxious toy-selling bullshit. its best scenes cant be touched by any other superhero movie though:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeEz9oE17ac
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmcBnyQCrcM

Darkman is a pretty great superhero movie, too.

Having batman films set mostly in daylight is a weird idea too.

aargh, not this again.

Weirdly enough I saw the Richard Donner cut for Superman II recently, that did re-acquaint me with how much fun superhero movies are - except I actually like how unfun the Nolan Batman films are, the whole pile-up of contemp relevance placed upon them to breaking point.

daylight thing one of the biggest nolan deal-breakers for me

dude is so terrible at atmosphere

but so great at fascism.

dont we almost exclusively see batman working at night in batman begins and TDK? i feel like TDKR is the only one where he screwed that pooch

never forget

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_B49rvfQPG60/TTo1hG1BJtI/AAAAAAAABtw/F_GMVHIOmnA/s1600/catwoman-disaster.jpg

Can't see the youtubes but what I love most about returns is the weird rhythm of all the dialogue between the trio of villains, its like they go into pentameter or something. Schumacher seemed to shoot for the same thing but it came out as weak camp? Tho I like all batfilms to an extent.

jeez i just can't like much of anything about batman begins and TDK (didn't see the last one) movies, and i'm not really a nolan-hater. they were just D.O.A. to me.

dont we almost exclusively see batman working at night in batman begins and TDK? i feel like TDKR is the only one where he screwed that pooch

― i wanna be a gabbneb baby (Hungry4Ass), Sunday, 16 June 2013 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

You'd think that, then Nolan gives you something you wanted all along but just didn't know you wanted.

ok ok this is too reminiscent of last year I'll stop.

somehow forgot just how awesome michelle pfeiffer was in batman returns, also totally forgot 'bruce wayne, why are you dressed up like batman?'.

best superhero movie

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_GFHMS-OSeSo/TQBIv9z434I/AAAAAAAADJo/TBpRwgVGkcI/s640/Oeming+%25281%2529.JPG

Pfeiffer is the best I love her

Is there a pfeiffer thread, I want to talk about I could never be your woman

michelle fucking owns that movie. her, keaton and walken are all insanely great in the scene where walken dies:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lalexosgwUk

love keaton's reading of 'split right down the center'

IDK that scene was kind of awkwardly put together

i should see that again i guess, i remember it being kind of convoluted and horrible, but i was a teenage so

its not great... it pains me to say as a devito diehard but he had no place in that movie

It's Always Not Sunny in Gotham City

jeez i just can't like much of anything about batman begins and TDK (didn't see the last one) movies, and i'm not really a nolan-hater. they were just D.O.A. to me.

otm

Michelle Pfeiffer gave my favorite performance in a superhero movie. RDJ is second, I guess.

what about christopher reeves? all-time best superhero performance

what makes this movie look so shitty to me is that it seems completely humourless... superman is such a god figure that you need a little clark kent comic relief to make him seem even remotely human... reeves nailed that and that super-grinny supermanness

well, Nolan's the producer, and he's allergic to laffs.

xpost -- The end of this new one actually sets that up a touch, so...who knows?

And while there aren't many laughs at all, they are there.

Not saying that'll convince either of you two, obviously!

xpost -- The end of this new one actually sets that up a touch, so...who knows?

― Ned Raggett, Sunday, June 16, 2013 1:22 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

does it end with clark kent knocking over a coffee cup or something?

yeah i'd give the crown to christopher reeve (who is terrible in almost every other movie he's in...)

anyway, i'm gonna see this, but i hope you guys are ready to hear me bitch and moan about it

xxpost -- KRYPTONITE coffee.

it ends with superman going 'i need a job' and he bicycles to the daily planet and finally puts on the iconic glasses and lois lane gives him a knowing smile

http://www.theonion.com/articles/economically-healthy-daily-planet-now-most-unreali,28718/

I laughed every time ihop appeared but ihop definitely taking liberties with canon.

H4A that smile is consistently the best thing about this movie don't knock it

do they do some awful update where he works for the huffington post or something

yeah i might see this tonight

as with every time i go see one of these mega-blockbusters in the theater, there will probably be a few moments while watching the movie when i get the existential shudders and wonder why i am spending part of my brief existence watching a movie i don't even expect to be good

What HfA said about the ending. It's not Reeve, but it's quiet humor that works. I actually really liked the fact that they make Lois Not An Idiot because she doesn't fall for the glasses thing for a second.

Reeve is fantastic! The moment in Superman II when he says "I blew it" in the vacant Fortress of Solitude makes my chin tremble. He was a whiz at switching from dork to hunk without losing his wits.

do they do some awful update where he works for the huffington post or something

Haha there's this Neil Patrick Harris guy who works for some sort of TMZ style site who plays a role. But not at the Daily Planet, which is still planeting.

Without spoiling it, the huffpo blogosphere stuff is part of the movie