"Can I say you're my girlfriend on Facebook?"

Oh for sure I mean my main issue with any of these sites is that they can (and will and HAVE) hand over your data to the authorities, should that be requested.

But this is not a new thing, ISPs have always had to abide by such requests in general as well. If the cops or feds ask for info on a user online, they have to be given it by law. In Australia anyway, I assume in the US/UK as well.

Dont put it online if you dont want it known, is the only way this can go really. Hard to stick to in actuality mind you.

otm. If you don't want it known, don't put it there in the first place. It's like 77 in that you think everything is private and G0gglepr00f until some numpty in the control room presses the wrong button and suddenly it's all out in the open.

The problem with shit like facebook is that it only takes one person to post 'OMG YUOR MOBILE NUMBER IS 0411767536!!!!!!!1' and bang, your privacy is out the window.

ha

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Over the past few days, we have received a lot of feedback about the new terms we posted two weeks ago. Because of this response, we have decided to return to our previous Terms of Use while we resolve the issues that people have raised.

If you want to share your thoughts on what should be in the new terms, check out our group Facebook Bill of Rights and Responsibilities.

How using Facebook could raise your risk of cancer

The Daily Mail at its best.

I heard about this on Today this morning ... my interest dropped substantially when the words "Aric" and "Sigman" followed in swift succession. A psychologist who issues a press release when he has an article published. Hmm.

Anyway. I've made a note to have a look at his article when I have time, but I have low hopes.

In fairness, the Mail is only doing what he's set it up to do ... this is an instance when I wouldn't actually accuse a newspaper of blowing a piece of research out of all proportion, because the impression I get with Sigman is that that's precisely what he wants to happen. I could be wrong, though ... I'm going to shut up until I've actually read his paper.

you should read it, it's pretty hilarious

i like this

"Ken c" likes this

"Ken c" likes "this"

I love Mail article comment boxes where even their readership completely rip on the piece

Just came across this while catching up with some reading ... Vaughan Bell puts the fucking boot in to Sigman's article.

As posted just now:

Today we announced new opportunities for users to play a meaningful role in determining the policies governing our site. We released the first proposals subject to these procedures – The Facebook Principles, a set of values that will guide the development of the service, and Statement of Rights and Responsibilities that governs Facebook’s operations. Users will have the opportunity to review, comment and vote on these documents over the coming weeks and, if they are approved, other future policy changes. We’ve posted the documents in separate groups and invite you to offer comments and suggestions. For more information and links to the two groups, check out the Facebook Blog.

And if you go there, Zuckerberg says all this:

Last week, we returned to our previous Terms of Use as we worked on a new set of governing documents that would more clearly explain the relationship between Facebook and its users. Since then, I've been excited to see how much people care about Facebook and how willing they are to contribute to the process of governing the site.

Our main goal at Facebook is to help make the world more open and transparent. We believe that if we want to lead the world in this direction, then we must set an example by running our service in this way.

We sat down to work on documents that could be the foundation of this and we came to an interesting realization—that the conventional business practices around a Terms of Use document are just too restrictive to achieve these goals. We decided we needed to do things differently and so we're going to develop new policies that will govern our system from the ground up in an open and transparent way.

Beginning today, we are giving you a greater opportunity to voice your opinion over how Facebook is governed. We're starting this off by publishing two new documents for your review and comment. The first is the Facebook Principles, which defines your rights and will serve as the guiding framework behind any policy we'll consider—or the reason we won't consider others. The second document is the Statement of Rights and Responsibilities, which will replace the existing Terms of Use. With both documents, we tried hard to simplify the language so you have a clear understanding of how Facebook will be run. We've created separate groups for each document so you can read them and provide comments and feedback. You can find the Facebook Principles here and the Statement of Rights and Responsibilities here. Before these new proposals go into effect, you'll also have the ability to vote for or against proposed changes.

I believe these steps are unprecedented in promoting understanding and enabling participation on the web. I hope you will take a look at these documents, read them carefully, and share your thoughts.

Facebook is still in the business of introducing new and therefore potentially disruptive technologies. This can mean that our users periodically experience adjustments to new products as they become familiar with them, and before becoming enthusiastic supporters. The launch of News Feed and the recent interface redesign are excellent examples that illustrate why we need to continue to make independent decisions about products in order to push technology forward. While these products must be consistent with the Principles and in compliance with the Statement of Rights and Responsibilities, they will not be subject to the notice and comment or voting requirement.

We're honored that so many millions of people around the world have decided to bring Facebook into their lives to share information and experiences with friends and loved ones. We understand that gives us an important responsibility to our users.

History tells us that systems are most fairly governed when there is an open and transparent dialogue between the people who make decisions and those who are affected by them. We believe history will one day show that this principle holds true for companies as well, and we're looking to moving in this direction with you.

whose idea was this shit

it's when they detag themselves from every photo you were both in, maybe even every photo you took of them, that's when it hits home

woha.

i basically hate computer nerds who can't stop fiddling with shit. JUST LEAVE IT ALONE it was working fine

also it ONLY JUST changed

judging from the new homepage it looks like they're taking on twitter...

eg "real-time stream of posts from your friends and connections"

it just looks like i've zoomed in too much

It sucks.

Wtf happened? Is this "what's on your mind?" monkey business the equivalent of the old status...thing? I'd barely adjusted to the previous changes.

they've like moved the messages to the right about an inch? anything else that's actually worth moaning about ?

facebook sucks anyway, it's full of false notifications.

I'm starting to feel this more but I could do without my highlights consisting of some friend playing Vampire Mob or whateverthefuck.

Christ, I only hate this change cause some many people are updating about their hatred of the new design.

You don't appear to get random wall conversations between your friends in your feed anymore. I used to quite like that.

no updates about becoming fans or joining groups :(

im sure there'll be another redesign in a few months... that'll be even worse.

So all of you who are only complaining about this now, did you look at the preview they offered for the last couple of weeks?

i don't mind this redesign so much - it's not really that much different from the old one.

it seems like you can't choose to know "less" about someone, just hide them altogether, which seems like a big step backward.

how long before they get round to suggest ban.

that would be end times

yep, jaymc I did look, and thought 'oh no, it looks a bit rubbish', I even wrote and told them so. I'll be over it by tomorrow.

I think I like the rounded corners of the pics in the feed.

they're like the books and photos in battlestar galactica. FB = a cylon plot.

i've written in complaints to them before about 'possible redesigns' and 'changes,' and it doesn't make any difference-- they change whatever they want whenever they want. so whatever.

they're like the books and photos in battlestar galactica. FB = a cylon plot.

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welcome to the gist of my status when the change spread to my login, haha..

redesign actually makes it slightly less intuitive to check event invites which is all that most people use fbook for now anyway, god

There's a little 'events' button at the top of the screen that takes you to the old-style events page. That drove me mad for a bit last week.

The ones who complain 'bout the change, how "ecstatic" were you about the previous change?

redesign actually makes it slightly less intuitive to check event invites which is all that most people use fbook for now anyway, god

Uh no, I never used it. Then again I'm a recluse who loves the change. heehee

obviously you aren't "most people" i guess.

I'm use to it now, I have amazing powers of recovery.

The selection criteria in the "people you may know" area seems to have improved. Alternatively, it's the last remaining ILXors I haven't friended yet.

I am disappointed my Facebook breakup didn't receive the prominence it would have with the old design.

lol

^ conceits

What's particularly annoying about the new design is that it brings the 'Check Out This Quiz!'/irritating Superpoke shit back into the main feed.

obviously you aren't "most people" i guess.

Who's to say? Maybe the ones that are happy, don't shout about it, like you negative lot.
(Really, I just want to throw my hands in the air and ask: "You obviously have little in life to complain about if you target this. Me, I'm more bummed about my grandfather having cancer." )

You obviously have little in life to complain about if you target this.

okay this thought shot through my mind when i saw half my FB friends commenting about how they didn't like the design.

I guess it just bugs the hell out of me that some people on there live for the existence of FB, ie they update their status with every fucking breath they take. They upload their photos of their nights out FIRST THING THE NEXT MORNING!! it's like they're taking the photos just so they can show them off on FB, rather than to live their stupid lives.

But then, live and let live hey ho. I guess I'm also bugged for the same reasons that some ilxors are too attached to this place as well.

(ranting over)

i don't think anyone lives for fbook, really

surely people always took photos to show them to other people? they just now can do so more quickly and easily than ever before. what would be the point of taking photos and showing them to nobody?