MAD MEN on AMC - Season 6

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really? the instance you named there is the only time i could think of, and it seemed like she was flirting with him but he still was the...idk, pursuer, enactor. she seems stiff and afraid and unsure of why she's there when they hook up. i can't remember anyone else desiring him
― 1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Wednesday, June 12, 2013

was gonna rebut this with the considerable number of times he's been pursued (and yes, rory gilmore jumped to mind immediately) but I think the hangup here is your personal definition of "pursue". Also, after a quick peek at the "pete campbell" wikipedia entry i was less concerned with proving a point and more struck by how utterly absurd this show is on paper so I am gonna just let it go.

i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 15:55 (eleven years ago) link

haha understood. like i said i forget nearly everything that happens on this show for some reason so i definitely am not trying to hold a hard line on this

1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 16:22 (eleven years ago) link

it's a ridiculous show! characters swing all over the spectrum (with the possible exception of don) so arguing about it is fun but pretty pointless.

i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 16:32 (eleven years ago) link

otm

1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 16:37 (eleven years ago) link

Roger and Don's Oyster Bar scenes were pretty chat-about-life-ish in S1 and S2 i recall? they are friends definitely; they've been through so much together! i love how we get a little scene between the 2 of them most weeks of late; the juggling bit this week etc.

piscesx, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 16:40 (eleven years ago) link

xxxxp yeah there's no way post-acid Roger would have made the crack about the guy losing his foot "just when he got it in the door", or for that matter try and sleep with Don's missus.

piscesx, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 16:41 (eleven years ago) link

This season started off a bit slow but I think the second half is really among the best of the series

More Than a Century With the Polaris Emblem (calstars), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 20:23 (eleven years ago) link

Roger and Don's Oyster Bar scenes were pretty chat-about-life-ish in S1 and S2 i recall? they are friends definitely; they've been through so much together! i love how we get a little scene between the 2 of them most weeks of late; the juggling bit this week etc.

the show's peak imo

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 20:33 (eleven years ago) link

I wish Pryce had lived long enough to have another New Year's debauch with Don! Such laughter they had.

Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 20:50 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, Lane and Don could bro down.

Mr. Mojo Readin' (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 21:19 (eleven years ago) link

rewatching some old eps, so much stuff i forgot about. ken making fun of peggy for gaining weight, and pete clocking him.

1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Thursday, 13 June 2013 05:56 (eleven years ago) link

I can finally articulate why this season has failed for me. When Peggy left last season it was one of the most real and consequential moments of the entire series. For the writers to simply undo this event on a whim (over a drink) really undermines the gravity of... everything! It's like the show isn't grounded anymore, because we know major plot points can simply be reversed.

Plus, these CGC agency folks are rather bland, compared to supporting characters from earlier seasons. The cultural commentary has become more overt, while the style is less refined.

Leon Septamost, Thursday, 13 June 2013 06:30 (eleven years ago) link

I don't know if I agree with that. I think Peggy being unable to escape and getting sucked back into Don's vortex is a lot more interesting and satisfyingly realistic than giving her some kind of happy ending where she gains her independence.

wk, Thursday, 13 June 2013 06:38 (eleven years ago) link

Really? I like Harry Hamlin and the pilot guy. I can't remember their characters' names, but still.

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 13 June 2013 09:44 (eleven years ago) link

Hamlin's great

Bathory Tub Blues (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 13 June 2013 16:06 (eleven years ago) link

pretty weird to see him because just before season 6 started we finished watching season 1 of Veronica Mars, where Hamlin plays a very different character. As someone who grew up watching Clash of the Titans on HBO, i'm a fan.

dan selzer, Thursday, 13 June 2013 16:08 (eleven years ago) link

Shit, that old guy is Perseus! Literally no idea till just now.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Thursday, 13 June 2013 16:15 (eleven years ago) link

DOOOOOOO DOOOOOOO DOO DA DOOOOOOOOOOOOO (HELICOPTER SHOT OF SHINY BUILDING)

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 13 June 2013 17:33 (eleven years ago) link

Roger Sterling s a much better realized example of a person who's an advertisement of himself, which Draper fails at being, alas. We should all be so lucky.

love the scene from a few seasons back where roger's ex-flame says something like, "you were galivanting about in your uniform, trying to be a character in someone's novel" -- think that really nails him.

discreet, Thursday, 13 June 2013 17:44 (eleven years ago) link

trying to become a character, that should say

discreet, Thursday, 13 June 2013 17:45 (eleven years ago) link

lol u r young

Ha, not that young. Just never watched LA Law/British.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Thursday, 13 June 2013 19:47 (eleven years ago) link

yeah Hamlin's amazing.

piscesx, Thursday, 13 June 2013 20:43 (eleven years ago) link

Accidentally stumbled upon the episode from last season, which Lane Price hangs himself, on telly tonight... My oh my.

It's almost as if it is an entirely different series this season round. It was electric to watch. Don hungry and eager for Dow, the incredible scenes of Lane getting busted on the cheque, being fired by Don, trying to off himself in his new car but failing so resorts to hanging himself. Sally going to the museum with Glenn and having her first period...

I suppose I don't really have a point to make with this. But I was struck by how very different lots of these characters where just one season ago. Don in particular: he was eager for business, he let Glenn drive the car back home... Juxtaposed with this season it made me feel more how utterly empty, shallow and without direction he is now. He's not living for anything any more; he derives no pride from his work any more, his home situation is a mess. The paradoxical thing is right now even his secret past isn't of any importance at the moment. He's become the man without qualities this season. Seeing the Lane episode tonight only made that more clear. Don right now is invisible. He might as well not be on the show any more. Something's got to give.

Just reminiscing.

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 13 June 2013 22:16 (eleven years ago) link

idly wondering if Dr. Rosen making a pass at Don would be slightly more believable than Bob's pass at Pete

Bathory Tub Blues (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 14 June 2013 18:00 (eleven years ago) link

There have been how many failed AC/DC passes this season? Three?

Not Simone Choule (Eric H.), Friday, 14 June 2013 18:10 (eleven years ago) link

wait what were the other ones?

shohreh aja/danteloo (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 14 June 2013 18:12 (eleven years ago) link

I guess the other two might only count as one ... the co-stars of Megan's soap opera.

Not Simone Choule (Eric H.), Friday, 14 June 2013 18:16 (eleven years ago) link

Oh right!

shohreh aja/danteloo (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 14 June 2013 18:24 (eleven years ago) link

i'm guessing most of you have discredited the "megan is dead" theory at this point (just catching up on this thread after watching the last 4 episodes yday), but it just doesnt wash with me. the main reason being that there are many scenes of megan on her own, or on set, without don there to observe her. if it's really a 6th sense thing, her appearances would have to be entirely subjective, right?

we're up all night to get (s1ocki), Friday, 14 June 2013 20:33 (eleven years ago) link

yeah. and what would the scene be where the woman from the soap opera comes to the apartment? she was just there drinking by herself, thinkin baout Megan?

dmr, Friday, 14 June 2013 20:38 (eleven years ago) link

hahaha totally

we're up all night to get (s1ocki), Friday, 14 June 2013 20:39 (eleven years ago) link

"megan is dead" theory was always ridiculous on its face

Bathory Tub Blues (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 14 June 2013 20:42 (eleven years ago) link

for most sane conspiracy types, the idea was she was dead after the start of that episode. While Don was on the trip. Everything else was foreshadowing. Not some sixth sense nonsense. THERE WAS NEVER A MEGAN!

dan selzer, Friday, 14 June 2013 20:49 (eleven years ago) link

the "zou bisou bisoudio" defense

i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Friday, 14 June 2013 20:54 (eleven years ago) link

Don realizes he's been married to Peggy since season 2.

Fanois och Alexander (Merdeyeux), Friday, 14 June 2013 20:55 (eleven years ago) link

I need to dust off my old theory about cooper's balls being reincarnated into two supernatural beings named Bob and Mike. I think I wrote about that before Bob even appeared!

wk, Friday, 14 June 2013 21:11 (eleven years ago) link

stealing this idea

Bathory Tub Blues (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 14 June 2013 21:26 (eleven years ago) link

this thread is almost as good as the show itself

More Than a Century With the Polaris Emblem (calstars), Saturday, 15 June 2013 01:20 (eleven years ago) link

If I would have known that people would be getting paid to blog about insane "megan is dead" theories I might have developed this into a blog. it's only marginally dumber.

On the battlefield in WWI, Gene's body was inhabited by a demonic entity called FRANK. Another entity named DON overtook the body of a G.I. named Dick during the Korean war. DON is of the white lodge, FRANK the black lodge. On Gene's death, FRANK took form inside Betty as "little Gene". In future episodes we'll see DON enter the red room where he will speak with two small men who are in fact BERT's lost testicles.

― wk, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 19:04 (2 years ago)

wk, Saturday, 15 June 2013 01:34 (eleven years ago) link

a demonic entity called FRANK

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100316231636/borderlands/images/b/b3/Tvsfrank.jpg

dunham checks in (get bent), Saturday, 15 June 2013 01:58 (eleven years ago) link

ha!

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 15 June 2013 02:01 (eleven years ago) link

I need to dust off my old theory about cooper's balls being reincarnated into two supernatural beings named Bob and Mike.

So Benson and Ginsberg, then? Already been established that the latter is a Martian:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwwHmAF2iR8

Murder in the Rue McClanahan (jaymc), Saturday, 15 June 2013 02:22 (eleven years ago) link

ok fucking hilarious that a guy as ott anti-spoilers at weiner letting this fly - http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/tv/showtracker/la-et-st-mad-men-megan-draper-matthew-weiner-20130614,0,373942.story

balls, Saturday, 15 June 2013 02:33 (eleven years ago) link

Are you relieved that Megan Draper will survive this season?
YesNo

johnny crunch, Saturday, 15 June 2013 02:35 (eleven years ago) link

"The show must go on" - Freddie Mercury

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 15 June 2013 02:41 (eleven years ago) link

weiner's been known to dispel some fan rumors while the season's in-progress. last season when don stared down the empty SCDP elevator shaft, i was convinced someone was going to end up plunging to their death until weiner did an interview saying "ffs you guys it was meant to be symbolic."

persona insufficiently memorable (reddening), Saturday, 15 June 2013 03:04 (eleven years ago) link

i like how this show's unpredictability has people scrambling to try and divine signs like that... "if megan isn't going to die then why is she wearing that t-shirt" is pretty ridic on the face of it

we're up all night to get (s1ocki), Saturday, 15 June 2013 03:44 (eleven years ago) link

pretty amazing that t shirts were still in their infancy in 1968!

piscesx, Saturday, 15 June 2013 03:45 (eleven years ago) link


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