MAD MEN on AMC - Season 6

xp Rory Gilmore was quite active wasn't she? I can't quite remember?

Bob's affection for Pete may have disappointed me but I think his short shorts are acting on me the way the Clown College billboard acted on Homer.

do you think bob is really wild about pete or just like, i want to hook up with someone and hey this guy seems pretty gay

i think don had convinced himself he was doing it for other reasons, though that came apart quickly when he talked to sylvia

i think he probably was doing it out of guilt towards arnold too, which is kinda twisted. "i'll do you this favour that allows me to resume sleeping with your wife."

agreed. i think his relationship with arnold is what was guiding that, at least in the beginning. obv he hopped on sylvia as soon as poss tho

He really really likes Arnold is the sad thing.

yeah he kind of looks up to him actually

The only other actual friend he's had is Anna, thinking about it. Maybe Roger counts, I dunno.

Roger totally counts these days.

Roger is like the dude you happily go on massive drinking binges with but would never in a million years actually talk to about your life.

Peggy sort of counts, or should count but for everything that gets in the way.

trick question: don has no friends

he really doesn't

I could imagine Roger talking about life for sure, it's just Don would never do so.

Roger, by nature, would be pontificating wistfully after a load of drinks.

Haha Roger does virtually nothing *but* talk about his life.

I'd say Roger would talk to Don about Don's life - basically imo Don's lack of friends is all due to his own secrecy and refusal/inability to engage deeply with anyone in an honest way.

That's implying a rather narrow definition of 'friend'. Can just be someone you hang out with and have a laugh with you know.

how have i started to like roger this much

he's fuckin hilarious!

otm. i think theyve shown us less of his bad side as we've gone on, maybe, and more of the good (to make us sad when he commits suicide next season)

Roger Sterling s a much better realized example of a person who's an advertisement of himself, which Draper fails at being, alas. We should all be so lucky.

The man can juggle.

^^

lol @ don having to brace himself in the elevator due to experiencing his first emotion

"tuesday morning's great"

i think theyve shown us less of his bad side as we've gone on, maybe, and more of the good

I think we're supposed to believe Roger is something of a better person after his acid awakening. still flawed but less of a shit than he used to be.

except i don't know if he was ever more of a shit than he was to Danny

true but he got cock-punched for it

really? the instance you named there is the only time i could think of, and it seemed like she was flirting with him but he still was the...idk, pursuer, enactor. she seems stiff and afraid and unsure of why she's there when they hook up. i can't remember anyone else desiring him
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was gonna rebut this with the considerable number of times he's been pursued (and yes, rory gilmore jumped to mind immediately) but I think the hangup here is your personal definition of "pursue". Also, after a quick peek at the "pete campbell" wikipedia entry i was less concerned with proving a point and more struck by how utterly absurd this show is on paper so I am gonna just let it go.

haha understood. like i said i forget nearly everything that happens on this show for some reason so i definitely am not trying to hold a hard line on this

it's a ridiculous show! characters swing all over the spectrum (with the possible exception of don) so arguing about it is fun but pretty pointless.

otm

Roger and Don's Oyster Bar scenes were pretty chat-about-life-ish in S1 and S2 i recall? they are friends definitely; they've been through so much together! i love how we get a little scene between the 2 of them most weeks of late; the juggling bit this week etc.

xxxxp yeah there's no way post-acid Roger would have made the crack about the guy losing his foot "just when he got it in the door", or for that matter try and sleep with Don's missus.

This season started off a bit slow but I think the second half is really among the best of the series

Roger and Don's Oyster Bar scenes were pretty chat-about-life-ish in S1 and S2 i recall? they are friends definitely; they've been through so much together! i love how we get a little scene between the 2 of them most weeks of late; the juggling bit this week etc.

the show's peak imo

I wish Pryce had lived long enough to have another New Year's debauch with Don! Such laughter they had.

Yeah, Lane and Don could bro down.

rewatching some old eps, so much stuff i forgot about. ken making fun of peggy for gaining weight, and pete clocking him.

I can finally articulate why this season has failed for me. When Peggy left last season it was one of the most real and consequential moments of the entire series. For the writers to simply undo this event on a whim (over a drink) really undermines the gravity of... everything! It's like the show isn't grounded anymore, because we know major plot points can simply be reversed.

Plus, these CGC agency folks are rather bland, compared to supporting characters from earlier seasons. The cultural commentary has become more overt, while the style is less refined.

I don't know if I agree with that. I think Peggy being unable to escape and getting sucked back into Don's vortex is a lot more interesting and satisfyingly realistic than giving her some kind of happy ending where she gains her independence.

Really? I like Harry Hamlin and the pilot guy. I can't remember their characters' names, but still.

Hamlin's great

pretty weird to see him because just before season 6 started we finished watching season 1 of Veronica Mars, where Hamlin plays a very different character. As someone who grew up watching Clash of the Titans on HBO, i'm a fan.

Shit, that old guy is Perseus! Literally no idea till just now.

lol u r young
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIQxvUsIMvk

DOOOOOOO DOOOOOOO DOO DA DOOOOOOOOOOOOO (HELICOPTER SHOT OF SHINY BUILDING)

Roger Sterling s a much better realized example of a person who's an advertisement of himself, which Draper fails at being, alas. We should all be so lucky.

love the scene from a few seasons back where roger's ex-flame says something like, "you were galivanting about in your uniform, trying to be a character in someone's novel" -- think that really nails him.

trying to become a character, that should say

lol u r young

Ha, not that young. Just never watched LA Law/British.

yeah Hamlin's amazing.

Accidentally stumbled upon the episode from last season, which Lane Price hangs himself, on telly tonight... My oh my.

It's almost as if it is an entirely different series this season round. It was electric to watch. Don hungry and eager for Dow, the incredible scenes of Lane getting busted on the cheque, being fired by Don, trying to off himself in his new car but failing so resorts to hanging himself. Sally going to the museum with Glenn and having her first period...

I suppose I don't really have a point to make with this. But I was struck by how very different lots of these characters where just one season ago. Don in particular: he was eager for business, he let Glenn drive the car back home... Juxtaposed with this season it made me feel more how utterly empty, shallow and without direction he is now. He's not living for anything any more; he derives no pride from his work any more, his home situation is a mess. The paradoxical thing is right now even his secret past isn't of any importance at the moment. He's become the man without qualities this season. Seeing the Lane episode tonight only made that more clear. Don right now is invisible. He might as well not be on the show any more. Something's got to give.

Just reminiscing.