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― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 11 June 2013 06:23 (eleven years ago) link
I think Pete's mad about the realization that the easiest way for him to get laid and not pay for it is w/guys. On top of that, the fact that it was BOB, whom he had gotten along with and had no real rivalry with (aside from the Chevy thing, which hasn't been addressed yet). He has no friends.
xpost: haha, speaking of homoerotic themes...
― Mr. Mojo Readin' (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 11 June 2013 06:24 (eleven years ago) link
first person who has ever really wanted him and pursued him tbh
― 1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 11 June 2013 07:32 (eleven years ago) link
great episode, loved that juice scene.
the music after sally finds don and silvia is kinda ridiculous - obv it's traumatic but it is like as if she just found him beside a pile of bodies with a knife.
― ... (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 11 June 2013 07:55 (eleven years ago) link
I have so much less respect for Bob Benson after all that, months of Mr Perfect and after all that he's hot for Pete? Literally any other person in the agency would be preferable, including Bert Cooper and he has no balls.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 11 June 2013 09:09 (eleven years ago) link
i like that don knows so little about sally these days that he thinks the old "she was very sad, so i was comforting her (in the vagina)" play would work.
― caek, Tuesday, 11 June 2013 10:44 (eleven years ago) link
jim cutler looks like the old man from up when he was youngeer
― caek, Tuesday, 11 June 2013 10:45 (eleven years ago) link
"she was very sad, so i was comforting her (in the vagina)"
and Don is silver-tongued enough to know how to insert the parentheses.
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 11 June 2013 11:16 (eleven years ago) link
Don't think Don really expected to convince Sally, more like he just wanted to give her an alternate theory they could both pretend to believe. "You won't believe how much this never happened" all over again.
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Tuesday, 11 June 2013 14:22 (eleven years ago) link
Surely he and Megan will be through by the end of the season though, right? Either Sally will tell, it will come up in an uncomfortable dining scene or something?
Megan hopelessly hoping for a better connection can only last so long I'd say. Her trying to kiss him when Don was going after Sally and found Megan home was painful to watch.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 11 June 2013 15:27 (eleven years ago) link
Don is going to convince Sally to murder Megan for him to end his sham of a marriage
― Bathory Tub Blues (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 11 June 2013 15:33 (eleven years ago) link
it will be his best sales pitch ever
berry good
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 11 June 2013 15:36 (eleven years ago) link
this was the first ep of the season that I liked
has someone done a 3 hour supercut of all the previously on mad mens yet
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 11 June 2013 15:38 (eleven years ago) link
I obv mean on the next ep of mad men
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 11 June 2013 15:40 (eleven years ago) link
first person who has ever really wanted him and pursued him tbh― 1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak)
― i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 11 June 2013 15:44 (eleven years ago) link
we're all dorothy campbell now
― wk, Tuesday, 11 June 2013 15:56 (eleven years ago) link
the most recent time got him separated from his wife about five eps ago.
yeah that girl literally threw herself at him
― Bathory Tub Blues (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 11 June 2013 16:03 (eleven years ago) link
or else she just REALLY liked "Hair"
― Bathory Tub Blues (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 11 June 2013 16:04 (eleven years ago) link
if anything, I think Pete's shown a consistent willingness to ignore or desert people who show him love in favor of his own self-interest
― i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 11 June 2013 16:42 (eleven years ago) link
tbh ive always liked pete in spite of his bad actions -- feel like his candor w peggy in this ep was a nice reminder that this dude is basically just FLAWED MAN WALKING through all the seasons, not a villain, per se.
― 69, Tuesday, 11 June 2013 17:39 (eleven years ago) link
he's the longtime regular who feels most like a type to me, like his primary role on the show is to be an indicator of a particular kind of old wasp. even when he raped the au pair it felt more like, this is just what guys like him feel entitled to rather than a particular personal failing (and how the au pair's boss responded reinforced that).
roger is obv from that same world but his big personality helps him break out of type, gives him some verve.
― discreet, Tuesday, 11 June 2013 17:53 (eleven years ago) link
I forgot about the au pair
― Treeship, Tuesday, 11 June 2013 17:56 (eleven years ago) link
I've maintained for a while now that the whole appeal of this show isn't really plot so much as allowing these really rich and interesting characters to inhabit the screen. It's really pleasurable in that way. Perhaps that's its debt to the sopranos.
Hence the central irony of don being such a flat character in some ways? But I dunno. Whenever any "depth" is added to his character it only serves to make him that much more of some american archetype.
― ryan, Tuesday, 11 June 2013 17:59 (eleven years ago) link
Pete's a total shit. Massive insecurity time bomb waiting to go off.
― ryan, Tuesday, 11 June 2013 18:00 (eleven years ago) link
tho sometimes I wonder if the strangeness of don's past, particularly in how increasingly distant it feels in time and history, is part of the point.
― ryan, Tuesday, 11 June 2013 18:03 (eleven years ago) link
don's trying really hard to be an american archetype!
― discreet, Tuesday, 11 June 2013 18:07 (eleven years ago) link
True. I guess the irony for me is that (intentionally or not) his past is so archetypical too! phony on both sides.
― ryan, Tuesday, 11 June 2013 18:11 (eleven years ago) link
the rural son of a prostitute Horatio Alger self-made slick con man advertising genius philanderer.
― ryan, Tuesday, 11 June 2013 18:13 (eleven years ago) link
reminds me that this show often puts me in mind of Nathaniel West.
― ryan, Tuesday, 11 June 2013 18:14 (eleven years ago) link
I said this upthread but after this episode Pete looks more than ever like a Haldeman aide – and just the sort whom H.R. would recruit.
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 11 June 2013 18:21 (eleven years ago) link
'80s Don Draper @80sDonDraper 45m
Memory is a fragile thing. It can’t be bound. It has to be trapped... and kept.
― Bathory Tub Blues (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 11 June 2013 18:21 (eleven years ago) link
Haldeman would never recruit a Kennedy supporter
Sure he would. Dick loved recruiting Dems.
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 11 June 2013 18:23 (eleven years ago) link
"A Kennedy voter! Working for me!"
don's character is the only thing that often doesn't make sense to me on this show!
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 11 June 2013 18:52 (eleven years ago) link
I love that Don almost sunk Chevy for a chance to get with Sylvia again.
― polyphonic, Tuesday, 11 June 2013 18:58 (eleven years ago) link
i think don had convinced himself he was doing it for other reasons, though that came apart quickly when he talked to sylvia
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 11 June 2013 19:21 (eleven years ago) link
Bob is a mysterious wizard
― the REAL Dr Morbius (silby), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 04:16 (eleven years ago) link
Mitchell is like 2 years older than my dad. Don't think my dad had those pants ever.
― the REAL Dr Morbius (silby), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 04:20 (eleven years ago) link
is this in reference to Pete? Because he's been the object of desire multiple times on the show and the most recent time got him separated from his wife about five eps ago.― i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, June 11, 2013 11:44 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
really? the instance you named there is the only time i could think of, and it seemed like she was flirting with him but he still was the...idk, pursuer, enactor. she seems stiff and afraid and unsure of why she's there when they hook up. i can't remember anyone else desiring him but tbh i remember like 5% of what happens on this damn show so that means nothing
― 1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 07:40 (eleven years ago) link
sally otm with "....ok" - really the only possible response to don's through-the-door excuse-making
― 1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 07:41 (eleven years ago) link
xp Rory Gilmore was quite active wasn't she? I can't quite remember?
Bob's affection for Pete may have disappointed me but I think his short shorts are acting on me the way the Clown College billboard acted on Homer.
― Fanois och Alexander (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 07:48 (eleven years ago) link
do you think bob is really wild about pete or just like, i want to hook up with someone and hey this guy seems pretty gay
― 1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 07:54 (eleven years ago) link
i think he probably was doing it out of guilt towards arnold too, which is kinda twisted. "i'll do you this favour that allows me to resume sleeping with your wife."
― ... (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 08:21 (eleven years ago) link
agreed. i think his relationship with arnold is what was guiding that, at least in the beginning. obv he hopped on sylvia as soon as poss tho
― 1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 08:24 (eleven years ago) link
He really really likes Arnold is the sad thing.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 11:21 (eleven years ago) link
yeah he kind of looks up to him actually
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 11:28 (eleven years ago) link
The only other actual friend he's had is Anna, thinking about it. Maybe Roger counts, I dunno.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 11:43 (eleven years ago) link