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Curious to see if there will even be a Mac Pro configuration with an old-fashioned spinning HD.

there's nowhere to put it right? it's all pcie flash memory?

wk, Monday, 10 June 2013 23:33 (thirteen years ago)

I guess I'm just part of a small minority of users who need a ton of storage, but work from home and don't want a bunch of flaky external drives sitting around. and also I'm not tech savvy enough (plus too cheap and lazy) to get some kind of external raid thing going. so the fact that the mac pro had 4 empty drive slots that you can fill up with terabytes for a couple hundred bucks was really nice.

wk, Monday, 10 June 2013 23:36 (thirteen years ago)

Curious to see if there will even be a Mac Pro configuration with an old-fashioned spinning HD.

― Elvis Telecom, Monday, June 10, 2013 4:26 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

no, duh

Operation Gypsy Dildo (silby), Monday, 10 June 2013 23:37 (thirteen years ago)

wk if you wfh and your work takes up multiple TBs of storage I'd hope you have a bunch of external drives anyway for your incremental and nightly backups, not to mention your off-site backups.

Operation Gypsy Dildo (silby), Monday, 10 June 2013 23:38 (thirteen years ago)

You still get that problem with internal disks, milo. My boot is an SSD, and my pictures are on the other internal HDs, and you still have to wait for them to spin up (tho you can disable that in prefs, I think)

IOS 7: overall feeling I get here is of Forstall going "harder than it looks, isn't it?" Going back to 6 is a relief.

stet, Monday, 10 June 2013 23:40 (thirteen years ago)

wk if you wfh and your work takes up multiple TBs of storage I'd hope you have a bunch of external drives anyway for your incremental and nightly backups, not to mention your off-site backups.

I just use an online backup service. had too many bad experiences with external drives dying.

wk, Monday, 10 June 2013 23:41 (thirteen years ago)

spin up of external drives totally a software/firmware issue.

caek, Monday, 10 June 2013 23:43 (thirteen years ago)

anyway yeah clearly Apple's answer to the expandability needs of Mac Pro customers is "use thunderbolt"; this is built in to their marketing messaging: "The most expandable mac ever" and it's not about drive bays.

Operation Gypsy Dildo (silby), Monday, 10 June 2013 23:46 (thirteen years ago)

You can swap out ram yrself though and avoid the most egregious Apple tax.

Operation Gypsy Dildo (silby), Monday, 10 June 2013 23:46 (thirteen years ago)

I'm still using a 2008 Mac Pro, dual Quad Core. I've got FIVE hard drives in it, 10 gigs or ram and it's still a pretty good computer. Sometimes gets funky probably more on the software side, and not the zippiest thing around, but I got a fair amount of life out of it.

Raids and NAS are getting more common and easier to use. Drobos and whatnot. This thing will do well. With video people and recording studios especially. Though those PCIe enclosure companies will benefit.

dan selzer, Monday, 10 June 2013 23:51 (thirteen years ago)

IOS 7: overall feeling I get here is of Forstall going "harder than it looks, isn't it?" Going back to 6 is a relief.

otm. this page sits somewhere between a turgid manifesto and a conga line of excuses: http://www.apple.com/ios/ios7/design/

the Quim of Bendigo (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 10 June 2013 23:52 (thirteen years ago)

from apple's point of view I guess it makes sense. I'm sure there are a lot of mac pro users who basically paid for those extra drive slots to just sit there empty taking up space. might as well shave a few bucks off the cost, make the box smaller, and let the third party peripheral companies deal with that.

wk, Monday, 10 June 2013 23:53 (thirteen years ago)

I'm still using a 2008 Mac Pro, dual Quad Core. I've got FIVE hard drives in it, 10 gigs or ram and it's still a pretty good computer. Sometimes gets funky probably more on the software side, and not the zippiest thing around, but I got a fair amount of life out of it.

yeah, that's exactly my situation too. I wish I could just have this exact thing but a little faster!

wk, Monday, 10 June 2013 23:55 (thirteen years ago)

Me too. This thing, but faster, and a bit smaller (don't need the card space, would like internal drives). I wonder if there's going to be any way to hook a Retina screen off this thing (even a little one!) though I suspect not.

stet, Monday, 10 June 2013 23:58 (thirteen years ago)

hook it meaning mounting it directly onto the computer's chassis?

Operation Gypsy Dildo (silby), Tuesday, 11 June 2013 00:40 (thirteen years ago)

oh you mean the current Mac Pro.

Operation Gypsy Dildo (silby), Tuesday, 11 June 2013 00:40 (thirteen years ago)

they mentioned that the new Mac Pro will drive 4k screens, but Apple don't sell 4k screens, wonder if we can expect those at the time they launch the Pro.

Operation Gypsy Dildo (silby), Tuesday, 11 June 2013 00:41 (thirteen years ago)

apple released a new massive mavericks wallpaper for such screens iirc

the Quim of Bendigo (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 11 June 2013 00:44 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.macrumors.com/2013/06/10/apple-posts-27-retina-imac-sized-os-x-mavericks-background/

the Quim of Bendigo (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 11 June 2013 00:45 (thirteen years ago)

Drool

stet, Tuesday, 11 June 2013 00:48 (thirteen years ago)

i will miss the cats, i must say

the Quim of Bendigo (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 11 June 2013 01:13 (thirteen years ago)

also 'mavericks' is a dumb name for anyone who doesn't know about american surfing beaches

the Quim of Bendigo (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 11 June 2013 01:15 (thirteen years ago)

locals only n00b

the late great, Tuesday, 11 June 2013 01:27 (thirteen years ago)

it sounds dumb that it is plural

Operation Gypsy Dildo (silby), Tuesday, 11 June 2013 01:51 (thirteen years ago)

Mac OS X Lions, iOS Sevens.

Operation Gypsy Dildo (silby), Tuesday, 11 June 2013 01:51 (thirteen years ago)

"windows"

the late great, Tuesday, 11 June 2013 01:55 (thirteen years ago)

it's possessive not plural.

wk, Tuesday, 11 June 2013 01:55 (thirteen years ago)

anyway it's actually intended as possessive

the late great, Tuesday, 11 June 2013 01:56 (thirteen years ago)

what he said

the late great, Tuesday, 11 June 2013 01:56 (thirteen years ago)

didn't you hear, apple is phasing out apostrophes. don't need em anymore

wk, Tuesday, 11 June 2013 01:59 (thirteen years ago)

reminder's

the Quim of Bendigo (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 11 June 2013 02:08 (thirteen years ago)

mavericks is an okay effort but how are they going to continue the theme? trestles? swamis? blacks?

the late great, Tuesday, 11 June 2013 02:12 (thirteen years ago)

those are all ca surfing beaches

the late great, Tuesday, 11 June 2013 02:12 (thirteen years ago)

next one is gonna be Mac OS X Medical Marijuana Dispensaries

Operation Gypsy Dildo (silby), Tuesday, 11 June 2013 02:13 (thirteen years ago)

cowells in santa cruz and that's it for possessives

the late great, Tuesday, 11 June 2013 02:15 (thirteen years ago)

OSX Icemen, OSX Geese.

Vernon Locke, Tuesday, 11 June 2013 02:18 (thirteen years ago)

next one is gonna be Mac OS X Medical Marijuana Dispensaries

― Operation Gypsy Dildo (silby), Monday, June 10, 2013 10:13 PM

i can confirm that this is true

markers, Tuesday, 11 June 2013 03:20 (thirteen years ago)

speaking of "next": http://next.com

markers, Tuesday, 11 June 2013 03:21 (thirteen years ago)

http://next.com/ipad/

markers, Tuesday, 11 June 2013 03:21 (thirteen years ago)

http://next.com/itunes/

markers, Tuesday, 11 June 2013 03:21 (thirteen years ago)

who'da guessed, markers is Tim Cook!

xps

eris bueller (lukas), Tuesday, 11 June 2013 03:23 (thirteen years ago)

http://elpoderdelosnumeros.gamol.com.mx/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/iphone-5-tim-cook-.jpg

markers, Tuesday, 11 June 2013 03:45 (thirteen years ago)

ios 7.0 jelly bean

the Quim of Bendigo (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 11 June 2013 03:47 (thirteen years ago)

The new features and textures in iOS7 are all nice, but will Apple ever get around to doing something about these two annoying throwbacks:

1: The keyboard. There's only three rows of keys. That made sense on the original iPhone with its 3-1/2" screen, leaving over half the screen available for context. But it's much less necessary to lack a dedicated numbers or symbols row with the iPhone 5's taller 4" screen, and it makes no sense at all on the roomy iPad. Apple, can we please have an option for four- or five-row keyboards? Having to frequently toggle to a second keyboard for numbers, and a third keyboard for symbols, is getting old fast.

2. iOS has a privacy problem. Some of us work in environments where we don't want anyone who can access my phone to be able to read all of my recent emails, which the Apple mail client allows. An option to enter a password before using the mail app is essential for business use. Likewise, notifications arrive with the name, contact info, and first line of incoming messages, which I don't always want anyone seeing. And the contacts list should allow for protected names and numbers too.

The only privacy option of note is the optional 4-digit access code for using anything on the phone, but most of the iPhone/iPad features I don't want password protection on (and 4 digits is insufficient security for those that do need encryption) - I'm fine with anyone using the camera, listening to music, watching videos, getting news, stocks, and scores, playing games. I just want my work email, some notifications, and some personal documents protected from prying eyes.

and in his absence, she (Lee626), Tuesday, 11 June 2013 04:04 (thirteen years ago)

why is anyone you don't trust using your phone??

we're up all night to get (s1ocki), Tuesday, 11 June 2013 05:28 (thirteen years ago)

Likewise, notifications arrive with the name, contact info, and first line of incoming messages, which I don't always want anyone seeing.

settings > notifications >messages > show preview (slide to off)

That turns off the preview line of text. Very important for me as a DVR'ing sports fan who has friends that text during games that I havent watched yet.

Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Tuesday, 11 June 2013 05:31 (thirteen years ago)

thx, I had that set to on.

s1ocki, like nearly everyone else, I sometimes have my phone on the table or a charging stand when others are nearby, and may not want saucy texts from my friends appearing unexpectedly when in a business setting (but do the rest of the time).

and in his absence, she (Lee626), Tuesday, 11 June 2013 06:57 (thirteen years ago)

obv a full user model would be ott, but i do think there is a case for a kind of phone equivalent of OS X guest mode, i.e. activate it, hand your friend your phone, and they get basically a new iphone, all other data is invisible and all the data they create is wiped when they hand it back.

caek, Tuesday, 11 June 2013 09:23 (thirteen years ago)

this may be too intricate for the ultrasimple iphone UI though. could imagine it being easy from a UI POV with fingerprint technology tho.

caek, Tuesday, 11 June 2013 09:24 (thirteen years ago)

slocki, the problem is not with ppl using your phone, which is perhaps an edge case like sharing underwear, but with people sharing ipads.

caek, Tuesday, 11 June 2013 09:26 (thirteen years ago)


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