MAD MEN on AMC - Season 6

that sounds right.

the thing about the pete'n'bob thing is... could you think of many worse moments to make a pass at someone?

quiz: how many think manolo is actually, um giving pete's mom "pleasure"?

manolo's gay dude.

um, i know

you can't imagine him... never mind.

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manolo bob-lick

Just saw this episode. HOLY SHIT. Best ever!

There is some really funny, really subtle dark humor in the last half. Sort of felt like the end of A Clockwork Orange. The anti-hero living the hell of his own hypocrisy.

Has anyone mentioned Stan's poster of Moshe Dayan?!?

yeah wtf up was that--some misguided pop art thing? maybe he just admires badass jews?

also the drapers have the best doorman in manhattan. dude takes his job incredibly seriously.

Feel as though some of you ppl are misreading Bob's reaction to Pete's rejection. Afaict he walked away with a kind of glazed, stiff upper lip expression, a closed door away from crestfallen.

Mostly enjoyed this episode, but Pete has become too easily caricatured. I liked the drinking camaraderie between him, Ted and Peggy, but he hasn't really been offset or layered by characteristics such as we saw with Trudy in earlier seasons. Granted he is a shitheel, but I preferred the ambiguity of his earlier development, when he wasn't so easily derided as a selfish, petty, frustrated jerk, and even came off favourably compared with some of his colleagues.

Thought Pete was amazing this episode.

still hoping Don ends up back with Rachel Menken for Season 7.

Has anyone mentioned Stan's poster of Moshe Dayan?!?

I did twice cuz... yeah, idgi

pete was really pissed off and frustrated there at the end, throwing his raisin bran around. are we to read this as him being frustrated about his repressed bi-curiosity or is he pissed that he's not as important as peggy, isn't on chevy yet this disgusting homo is, etc.

manolo totally checks out pete's butt in his first scene. manolo and bob have totally gabbed about pete's butt

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I think Pete's mad about the realization that the easiest way for him to get laid and not pay for it is w/guys. On top of that, the fact that it was BOB, whom he had gotten along with and had no real rivalry with (aside from the Chevy thing, which hasn't been addressed yet). He has no friends.

xpost: haha, speaking of homoerotic themes...

first person who has ever really wanted him and pursued him tbh

great episode, loved that juice scene.

the music after sally finds don and silvia is kinda ridiculous - obv it's traumatic but it is like as if she just found him beside a pile of bodies with a knife.

I have so much less respect for Bob Benson after all that, months of Mr Perfect and after all that he's hot for Pete? Literally any other person in the agency would be preferable, including Bert Cooper and he has no balls.

i like that don knows so little about sally these days that he thinks the old "she was very sad, so i was comforting her (in the vagina)" play would work.

jim cutler looks like the old man from up when he was youngeer

"she was very sad, so i was comforting her (in the vagina)"

and Don is silver-tongued enough to know how to insert the parentheses.

Don't think Don really expected to convince Sally, more like he just wanted to give her an alternate theory they could both pretend to believe. "You won't believe how much this never happened" all over again.

Surely he and Megan will be through by the end of the season though, right? Either Sally will tell, it will come up in an uncomfortable dining scene or something?

Megan hopelessly hoping for a better connection can only last so long I'd say. Her trying to kiss him when Don was going after Sally and found Megan home was painful to watch.

Don is going to convince Sally to murder Megan for him to end his sham of a marriage

it will be his best sales pitch ever

berry good

this was the first ep of the season that I liked

has someone done a 3 hour supercut of all the previously on mad mens yet

I obv mean on the next ep of mad men

first person who has ever really wanted him and pursued him tbh
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the most recent time got him separated from his wife about five eps ago.

yeah that girl literally threw herself at him

or else she just REALLY liked "Hair"

if anything, I think Pete's shown a consistent willingness to ignore or desert people who show him love in favor of his own self-interest

tbh ive always liked pete in spite of his bad actions -- feel like his candor w peggy in this ep was a nice reminder that this dude is basically just FLAWED MAN WALKING through all the seasons, not a villain, per se.

he's the longtime regular who feels most like a type to me, like his primary role on the show is to be an indicator of a particular kind of old wasp. even when he raped the au pair it felt more like, this is just what guys like him feel entitled to rather than a particular personal failing (and how the au pair's boss responded reinforced that).

roger is obv from that same world but his big personality helps him break out of type, gives him some verve.

I forgot about the au pair

I've maintained for a while now that the whole appeal of this show isn't really plot so much as allowing these really rich and interesting characters to inhabit the screen. It's really pleasurable in that way. Perhaps that's its debt to the sopranos.

Hence the central irony of don being such a flat character in some ways? But I dunno. Whenever any "depth" is added to his character it only serves to make him that much more of some american archetype.

Pete's a total shit. Massive insecurity time bomb waiting to go off.

tho sometimes I wonder if the strangeness of don's past, particularly in how increasingly distant it feels in time and history, is part of the point.

don's trying really hard to be an american archetype!

True. I guess the irony for me is that (intentionally or not) his past is so archetypical too! phony on both sides.

the rural son of a prostitute Horatio Alger self-made slick con man advertising genius philanderer.

reminds me that this show often puts me in mind of Nathaniel West.

I said this upthread but after this episode Pete looks more than ever like a Haldeman aide – and just the sort whom H.R. would recruit.

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Memory is a fragile thing. It can’t be bound. It has to be trapped... and kept.

Haldeman would never recruit a Kennedy supporter

Sure he would. Dick loved recruiting Dems.