ILX running running thread

hahaha, thanks for asking, because I hit up 6pm.com and they have Fila Simulite 2s on sale for $30!

The truth about shoes is they probably don't matter nearly as much as people think they do.

hello runners. i am much less fit than when i last posted in this thread, but have started running/exercising again partly in terror at being out of shape. ran the manchester 10k two weeks ago, which was a fun day & hectic & i was v pleased to completely knacker myself to get under an hour (quite a bit faster than i'd been training), but really feeling the extra stone or two i've put on since i was last running. i am now a gymist, so i'll see how it goes.

The truth about shoes is they probably don't matter nearly as much as people think they do.

― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Saturday, June 8, 2013 3:53 PM (6 days ago)

Pretty much OTM. I really like simple shoes, that are light and offer moderate cushioning. No crazy stuff. Currently really liking my Asics Gel-Lyte 33 2's (despite the stupid name).

Have been alternating between Asics Gel Hyper 33's and Asics Gel Excel 33's. No idea what the technical difference is between those and your shoes but I think they're pretty similar and I like them a lot. Mine are both in a really nasty fluorescent yellowish-green cos they were on special offer. Only reservation about them is that the upper seems to wear thin quite quickly over my big toes, but maybe that's just my feet.

I basically end up buying every single color scheme of the models I use. Easier to tell them apart so I can keep track of miles.

10K race today. Finished in 42:59 which is a PR by 1:54. It was warm. Now I'll officially start marathon training for the fall.

Nice!

I wish these had longer than a 1" inseam. Because they would be awesome. As it stands, they would be kind of lewd.

http://img.runningwarehouse.com/new_product/BOAMGLX-1.jpg

Went over 1000 miles for the year today. Last year I didn't get to 1000 until December 16th.

And today I eclipsed my mileage total from last year. 1075 to date.

I did not buy the galaxy shorts. Chicago lakefront runners are grateful.

if those shorts came in a 5"-7" inseam I would totally rock them. On that note, why don't more breweries make technical shirts?

Hit 108 here today, so I'm going to hold off until tomorrow with my run.

Yikes! That's toasty.

I wait until after sunset to head out anyway, but even then it'll still be about 98. Also, I am coming off a two-day bender.

Running in the heat with a dew point in the mid to upper 70s is challenging. Still prefer it over winter ice and snow. I feel like even though I may not hit my pace targets, the effort I'm putting into my workouts is beneficial.

Today's workout:

10 miles total. 3 miles easy with 5 x 20 seconds strides to get warmed up. Then run 4 miles of fartlek with a "float" approach:

*2 minutes @ MP
*2 minutes @ float pace (moderate effort, no slower than MP + 30 seconds per mile)
*Repeat until you hit 4 miles

Then cool down for the remainder of the miles.

How do you do it?

I was running in 90-degree weather, and I thought the exact same thing as you, but my lungs started feeling bruised.

It's probably physiological. I might have weaker lungs genetically? Not sure, but I get super ill from doing it, so I only run in the heat once or max twice a week now.

i ran for 15 minutes on saturday and i'm still tired. this sucks.

It no way is it pleasant. But my speed workouts are never pleasant anyway, so I just suffer through it. Oddly enough, easy runs seem to be more taxing on me mentally in the heat.

Oh, my hill intervals are not pleasant, but I enjoy the pain, so I understand.

However, one thing is the good feeling of muscle pain, and another is having a lung infection. I wish I could do it more often. You must have good lungs!

I got a TB shot when I was a kid, and I think that didn't help my lungs.

Never did start running like I said I was gonna, but I'm really gonna try and start once this heat breaks. As it is, I feel like I'm smoking a cigarette just walking to the bus stop.

how's life, if you were in LA, I would ask you to join me.

Put on your running gear and go for a walk around the block. Or wherever you're going to run. Familiarising yourself with the surroundings takes a bit of the pressure off.

Then you can slowly start to run? Do you think it might work?

I want to hear more about the genesis of the term "fartlek".

Swedish. It means speed-play.

Can't help but to teehee.

I have not run in several weeks. On one hand, the 90+ heat....I just can't handle it, and I don't wake up early enough to beat it. On the other hand, the trail I normally run on is less than safe. I was beaten up on it last year by a handful of guys, and about a month ago some guy was riding his bike home from work at about 5:30 pm and was assaulted by about 15-20 guys. They didn't even steal his backpack, which had his wallet and phone. They just pushed his bike over and beat the shit out of him and left.

I hate all the other running options near my house. Too much waiting at stop lights. Ugh. I feel so frustrated.

Ugh. I feel so frustrated.

― Z S, Thursday, July 18, 2013 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Is there a buddy you can go running with? Is it too dangerous to run later in the evening around your area? Maybe avoid the busy streets? Or no?

ugh, giant iphone fail just now which will prompt a plea in the ILX zing thread.

the summary was: i just need to get used to running with stop lights, and to stop thinking so much about my pace/distance. i loved the trail because it was a straight shot, no stops, and i could meaningfully track my improvements. a big part of running to me is just keeping track of my stats. i can have a decent run and feel physically good afterward, but if i can beat some sort of new personal distance or time or pace record, that's what really drives me. i have to just get used to running for the sake of running, i guess.

Ooh. Sorry to hear. That's happened to me before.

As for keeping track, why not use a running watch or a fitness tracker?

i have a running watch but it also seems to think that i'm cutting across city blocks. one time i ran 4 miles in real life and the watch calculated that i had run 2.75 miles at about a 5 minute pace

Oh, that's bizarre. The GPS is messed up, eh?

Z S which trail was that? I don't know how easy it is for you to get to southwest DC but I jog around there and feel pretty safe. The C&O canal towpath is also nice & flat with some shade.

the metropolitan branch trail. esp. between the noma and rhode island stops, where i live, it's dicey. i'm thinking about just running on a treadmill at work, although that wouldn't be much fun. but at least it would be a consistent temp every day.

Last time I was in DC I ran a route similar to where the Cherry Blossom 10 miler goes. It was kind of awesome, there was like no one around.

Just got back from 13 slow, then very slow, miles in DC heat. Not so bad in the shady woods of Rock Creek but man did my pace fade about 7 miles in. Really wish I had a swimming pool right now.

man, you guys in this heat. Too macho for my blood! (sexy, though)

stay safe and hydrated, alla youse

I'm absolutely soaking wet after my runs this week. It looks like I jumped in the lake. I get home and stand in front of Carl and a puddle of sweat begins to form at my feet. My shoes squeak. I weigh myself and I usually lose 4 to 5 pounds of water weight after most hard workouts. It's quite unpleasant.

18 miles on tap tomorrow, my longest run since October. Thankfully it's only going to be 82 with a dew point of below 70.

The average here is between 85 to 90 degrees. There is very little shade and it usually feels hotter.

When I do 18k runs, the dehydration is pretty horrible. No matter how much water I consume, my mouth always ends up super dry. And I have to wipe my forehead and eyes to avoid sweat from going in them and it stinging.

#runnersproblems

yea the eye sweat was killing me, ive ran the last 2 days. mabye gotta get a headband

I always have to run with a headband. Otherwise I can't see because of the sweat.

Wow, I'm impressed with you guys. If it gets close to 80 F I'm having a hard time running. The sun seems to drain all my energy.

I ran every day in May as an experiment; it was kinda horrible at times, but pretty enjoyable over all. I'l admit that I was tempted to stop already on day three, but then the lizardbrain pride took over. Will never again go for a jog after leg-day at the gym, however. Deadlift + squats + running = just awful, and probably not at all helpful I wasn't tempted to keep the streak going, however, and ended up not running all that much in June. Still, after a break I'd gotten noticeably stronger and I've had some pretty good runs lately, including personal bests on 10K and 5K. Did my fourth half-marathon distance last weekend (22K, to be android-gps-precise) and my first one where I didn't stop to stretch or rest or walk at ALL. Really happy with how well that turned out, since I recall with dread the first time I did that distance: my hips hurt for two weeks. Now I could easily have gone for a run the next day. The last four or five kilometers were damn hard though -- though it turned out I'd actually sped up a bit during those, seemingly just because I wanted to be home.

In May I tried a 25 minute 5K at one point, and missed it by two seconds. Last week I went out on a rather hillier 5K with no plans of going fast and ended up at 23m:24s. Hooray! How the hell people are able to do sub-20 minutes, I have no idea. Tbh, I've never really trained for speed though, but am thankful that it kinda comes automatically after a while.

Running with a GPS is working wonders for my motivation, as I repeatedly find that some of the worst-feeling runs turn out to be among my best. I'm really terrible at understanding how fast I'm running sometimes, so I get really tired and think it's just a bad day, then find out it's actually been a really good one. Hint to self: if you're breathing heavily, you're going fast.

I run 6 days a week now, Friday being my rest day. And it is a glorious rest day, especially coming after a speed workout on Thursday.

Sub 20 5K is one of my goals for this year. 21:32 is my current PR, but that was last December. In a recent 10K race, I ran the 1st 5K in around 20:50 and the second 5K in 22:09. Pretty sure I could suffer through a 5K now in under 20.

Racing requires a strange mindset. To summon the wherewithal to run as fast as you can possibly run for a certain distance. It's very uncomfortable. In training, I rarely run a sub 7 minute pace and if I do, it is no longer than 1/2 mile repeats. And that is hard as hell to do. No idea how I can manage to do it for 10K on race day. I just try and disassociate.

Yeah, that one attempt at a fast 5K taught me that. I felt like I had no idea what kind of pace I should set from the get-go, so I keep wondering if I'm going too fast to keep it up, or too slow to get a decent time. I guess that's when a gps-watch (and perhaps pulsebelt) might come in handy.
I'm still pretty new to running, but I've tended to go for slow longer runs over short ones, and whenever I go fast, I can't help but marvel that this is something people are willing to do frequently. It just kills me. Was surprised to find how much weightlifting actually helped on my speed -- I didn't expect that at all. Hills too are much easier this year than last.

Been telling myself to start doing interval training once a week, but so far I've found excuses not to do it. Instead I just take occasional speed bursts on longer runs; it's actually a good way to kinda wake up when the going's getting tough.

Oystein, speed intervals/hills will help you gain speed. Lifting (though be careful not to do it too much) also increases speed. But you're right that by merely running and doing stuff like fartlek or psuedo fartlek routines, you also gain speed, but maybe slightly slower?

I burn easily, so if I wear a headband I would have a large white spot on my forehead while the rest of my face would be red.

Plus, it's nice that I get some colour for a change, instead of being pasty white. Because of this, I usually run with a tank top (no sleeves!) just to shoot two birds with one stone. That's one nice thing of living here!

18 miles was good today, probably the best at that distance I've had. Felt string and definitely had 8 more miles in my legs.

Can't run in heat at all...when I'm in training (sob) and it's >20 degrees out I'll wait until late at night to run.

wrt racing: you learn to race by racing imo, and it's never exactly fun. You do need to work out a pace in advance and stick to it as best you can. Intervals/fartlek/etc. are not optional if you want to get faster.

God, I am as unfit as I've been in at least 10 years :( Come August I hope to get back for reals.

Six more miles today puts me at 56 for the week. Biggest week ever.

16 miles of trail running in Brussels:

http://media.dailymile.com/photos/691199/4ee8717bce71075bc7854af7ea91f443.png

That looks pretty.

Did you take your camera to your run or were those taken at different times?

I ran with my phone. Which I don't normally do but I was afraid of getting lost in an 11,000 acre forest in a foreign land.

Running in the forest is great. Even walking in it does wonders for me.

How'd you like it? Enjoy your trip.