defend the indefensible: glenn fucking greenwald

Spyware built in from the first grunts.

The next Zeitgeist movie is gonna be so dope

Will Saletan: BOW YOUR HEADS!

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/frame_game/2013/06/stop_the_nsa_surveillance_hysteria_the_government_s_scrutiny_of_verizon.html

@BarackObama 25m

"In a country where we expect free wifi with our coffee, why shouldn't we have it in our schools?" —President Obama in North Carolina today

GOOD TIMING

he said "Chill"!

More good timing:

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/113399/nsa-collecting-verizon-records-why-internet-companies-fight-back

My privacy is safe with Google. They do not collect data about me or share it with others.

^^ plz repeat until believed

http://s1.dmcdn.net/a5cU/526x297-iik.jpg

"My name is Elmer J. Fudd, millionaire. I own a mansion and a yacht."

NY Times!

So he lives in Brazil

he wears cargo shorts too

Maybe you should post that photo one more time

“The N.S.A. is kind of the crown jewel in government secrecy. I expect them to react even more extremely,” Mr. Greenwald said in a telephone interview. He said that he had been advised by lawyer friends that “he should be worried,” but he had decided that “what I am doing is exactly what the Constitution is about and I am not worried about it.”

Seems a little paranoid

hahahaha

he's clearly hoping the government goes after him

"oh plz not the briar patch!"

Jesus Christ Mordy

is there any doubt? i'm sure he'd love to confront the US government head on and in the public eye.

you're right mordy, what a ridiculous person

the opposite of silly i'd think. such a confrontation would be very good from his pov.

*obama drone strikes glenn greenwald's brazilian sex mansion, leaving only a charred pair of cargo shorts*

[glenn greenwald in Macklemore - thrift sthop voice] This is fucking awesome

lol

i'm sure any government response won't involve dropping a drone on glenn, and i don't think that's what he's expecting. he's probably expecting some legal action ala manning or assange.

more likely some kind of sex crimes charge

if you can't imagine why he'd want to get involved in a public legal battle w/ the united states government i think you don't really get glenn greenwald

ya if he goes to jail he'll be a national celebrity / reddit martyr etc

Guys, only Mordy "gets" Glenn Greenwald

what if waterface were gleen greenwald

The only way Gleen Gleenwald is going to jail is if the fashion police arrest him for his corgi shorts.

walderface

i don't really "get" waterface - does it have a point?

waterface is a personification of all the bile and assholishness on ilx over the last decade, if everyone just started being nice to each other waterface would just disappear

nah man you can't pin him down. he's a slippery one, that waterface.

Being at the center of a debate is a comfortable place for Mr. Greenwald, 46, who came to mainstream journalism through his own blog, which he started in 2005. Before that he was a lawyer, including working 18 months at the high-powered New York firm Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz, where he represented large corporate clients.

What was the thread where I defended the appointment of former "corporate lawyers" to regulatory positions and said that I knew big firm lawyers who were further left than any of my other friends, and I got mocked for it?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/jun/07/whistleblowers-and-leak-investigations

I think I'm nice!

I'm just a truth teller

you are the darkness inside of all of us

I am Shiva, destroyer of words

you are a weak version of a tired archetype but it's cool to have you on board

Thank you, Spiral!

he's probably expecting some legal action ala manning or assange.

― Mordy , Friday, June 7, 2013 10:18 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ok you undersand that manning already is going to be in jail for decades and if he's convicted on the other charges he could be in jail for life.

so no i don't think greenwald would 'welcome' this?

well, Manning leaked the information whereas Greenwald benefitted from a whistleblower. Now's the time to wonder whether Eric Holder will keep to his week-old promise not to prosecute journalists who publish this sort of intel.

why did you put the word welcome between apostrophes?

What was the thread where I defended the appointment of former "corporate lawyers" to regulatory positions and said that I knew big firm lawyers who were further left than any of my other friends, and I got mocked for it?

― i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), F

Not sure you got mocked for it (Supreme Court thread maybe re Obama corporate law, Bush admin. attorney nominee for DC Circuit)

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Andrew Sullivan <>
Date: Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 3:31 PM
Subject: Re: glenn greenwald
To: "Kaufman, Leslie" <

I count Glenn as an honest blogger whose passions in real time can sometimes lead to misreadings of others. But we're all vulnerable to that in the blogosphere, and in our various spats, I've always enjoyed the give-and-take, rather than resenting some of the occasionally unfair barbs. They come with the territory. But once you get into a debate with him, it can be hard to get the last word. A friend described debating him as like engaging with a rhetorical trampoline. But I actually enjoy rhetorical trampolining, as long as no one gets hurt too much. I do not take anything he writes about my work personally.
His passion is a great antidote to the insidery access-driven village of Washington journalism, but at times, I think he has little grip on what it actually means to govern a country or run a war. He's a purist in a way that, in my view, constrains the sophistication of his work.
Yes, we're friends. We've hung out a bit, and are bonded by a couple of things. He relies on readers for much of his income (and I rely on readers for all of mine) - and has made online debate much sharper in many ways. I've benefited from his criticism, even as I remain to his "right." And he is forced to live abroad with his partner David because the US refuses to acknowledge the validity and dignity of bi-national gay couples. I was in that exact position for a long time with my American husband - and our shared experience matters a lot to me. Our husbands have also bonded over the same issue.
And I genuinely like him as a human being.
you can use any all or none of that
cheers
andrew

I think thats a good reading of GG... ^^^

"ugh, the worst, right? anyway, i just really wanted to share this lustrous takedown of him from some guy's blog i don't know:
http://jacobinism.blogspot.co.il/2013/05/drooling-self-love-dime-store-third.html";

Mordy's initial post is terrible.. incredibly biased.... clearly GG doesn't fit into 'defend the indefensible'

that jacobinism article.... is ... just.....

so who leaked the NSA stuff?

As Mr. Greenwald tells it, the last decade has been a slow political awakening. “When 9/11 happened, I thought Bush was doing a good job,” he said. “I was sucking up uncritically what was in the air.”

This surprised me but it explains a lot - the zeal of a convert.

Wish the thread title was changed too.