indefensible: john gruber

lmfaoooooo

balls

@gruber 8h
Hacker News hasn’t had a single link to Daring Fireball in months, so I presume DF is blacklisted. But why Vesper?

maybe hacker news just thinks you're a nutsack

thats low

just didnt get enuff upvotes to get to the front page: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5833388

the one guy designs it i code it and grubes he links

― lag∞n, Thursday, June 6, 2013 7:36 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

amazing post, so vaudeville

http://www.imore.com/debug-15-simmons-wiskus-gruber-and-vesper

Fuckin helveticunts

Dr Drang otm http://www.leancrew.com/all-this/2013/06/form-and-function/

flat design

imo this should basically be the free square in your game of 2013 ux-dude buzzword bingo

http://shawnblanc.net/2013/06/arment-vesper/

yeesh

it's pretty debatable whether or not "export" is a "power user feature"

Vesper’s current lack of sync, export, etc. isn’t an oversight; it’s an intentional omission at this time.

hah no matter how hard any of them try they just cant bring themselves to justify it

how is "iPad" a "power user feature"

it's another fucking hardware platform

balls, balls

HOW CAN YOU SHIP THE PLAYBOOK WITHOUT AN EMAIL APP

balls balls balls

http://www.marco.org/2012/01/22/rim-ceos-stepping-down

nailed it

this has nothing to do with apple but click on it

http://video.pandodaily.com/2fm

"One thing that has really been on my mind lately is the future of media." – Ben Brooks

http://brooksreview.net/2013/05/fucking-dogs/

What an asshole

ban these words: media, content

sam biddle was going off on this earlier https://twitter.com/samfbiddle

I am in no way suggesting that summoning Cthulhu to rise out of San Francisco Bay and massacre all of Silicon Valley would be a good thing, but I wouldn't do anything to stop it either.

We have a different name because we make a different sandwich. A true Philly hoagie is so much better than a “sub”, it’s not even funny. We’re famous for the cheesesteak, but the Philly hoagie is just as great. (Sarcone’s is the best; Primo’s are excellent too.)

i hate this guy.

He quoted all of marco's "balls" post

have we mentioned that he calls himself the "director" of the app?

So basically Grubes acted like a demanding, irascible client with very specific requirements about the design. Wonder if he paid them their hourly rate during development or if everyone was just in it for equity.

taking six months to dev this thing absolutely suggests that an asshole director demanding meaningless iterations. Clients like Gruber are fucking horrible.

Clients people

We have a different name because we make a different sandwich. A true Philly hoagie is so much better than a “sub”, it’s not even funny. We’re famous for the cheesesteak, but the Philly hoagie is just as great. (Sarcone’s is the best; Primo’s are excellent too.)

as someone from philly, NAH

the pizza in new york is so much better which is why they dont even call it pizza there they call it a different name like how always they change the name for the best stuff cause its better different

was kinda sad that th olde timey boston names of grinder and tonic for sub and soda didnt even make a blip on those maps rip

If you pretend to yourself that Arment hates those dudes' guts, his post about Vesper still makes sense

so has anyone actually tried it?

and pay five bucks for a notes app that doesn't sync with anything? no

but but it's so elegant

balls

i think marco actually did this better by taking a shit on a tshirt and selling it for $15

The original iPhone was designed for a world where smartphones were horrid little button- and scroll-wheel-driven devices, and where proper humane computer interfaces were driven by mouse and trackpad cursors. The iPhone blended the two — the size and cellular networking of the smartphone, the humaneness of Mac-style UI design — and did so by introducing something new. The touchscreen.

The design of the iPhone software was entirely informed by the fact that this was a new experience, it was nothing like using an existing smartphone, nor anything like using a Mac or Windows PC. It needed training wheels, to get people up to speed. Thus, to name one small example, why iOS buttons have tended to look so very button-y. To inform the user, as clearly as possible, that this is a button that can be tapped.

is he capable of writing anything without sounding like a total choad? "humaneness," christ

tbf "humane" is a term of art in industrial/interface design and typography

i'm aware of that, but it doesn't make it sound any less ridiculous

not to come off sounding glib - as somebody who does ux for a living i guess i just reserve a lot of ire for people who overuse "humane" and "empathetic" etc

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7360/9024040494_c2c209f6d0_b.jpg

aw it's his wife

shirt/tie and jeans

jesus christ