Minnesota/Minnesotans C or D

I don't know what you guys are planning during the holiday week, but I'll be up in Rosemount again on July 1-2

I haven't had *bad* experiences with whatever that coconut milk drink is.

Feeling pretty badass about living here today.

What's going on?

Lol duh sorry

haha

That Craigslist Blaine guy just inspired JJJ that much.

http://www.startribune.com/politics/statelocal/217858401.html

By 2 a.m. the scene inside and outside remained festive and untroubled. Food trucks lined up as newlyweds and other attendees ordered tacos and omelets

damn now that's wedding food, truck omelets

lol ned

http://blogs.citypages.com/blotter/2013/08/josh_hartnett_endorses_betsy_hodges_for_mayor.php

fuckin guy

is hodges cool?

Josh endorses the idea of forcefully moving Minneapolis forward. This seems premature, until it can be determined which way Minneapolis is facing.

As evidenced by Schiff's support, Hodges' bid seems pinned largely on opposition to the Vikings stadium deal?

man ums i have no idea. i'm kind of glad i don't live in mpls anymore!

she has been every damn where with the hipster events, i can tell you that. can't swing a dead cat at a kim bartmann getdown without hitting her!

okay so apparently there's been a shitstorm brewing around one of the dudes from Psykonsonik that culminated in him getting booted from an SF writers' group today for being a racist dick? anybody hear about this?

also as someone who doesn't live in MN, the new Vikings stadium looks ludicrously awesome and I hope it gets built

lol, what is it now? mn's own fundy cyberpunk http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_Beale

yeah speaking of the stadium, i was gonna post something about the wilf racketeering deal. awwwkward.

another HSTNGS person linked this on Facebook: http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2013/08/14/i-think-the-sfwa-might-just-be-awesome/

I followed the links from that and hoo boy.

omg I hadn't heard about the racketeering, amazing

As evidenced by Schiff's support, Hodges' bid seems pinned largely on opposition to the Vikings stadium deal?

― Boven is het stil (Eric H.), Wednesday, August 14, 2013 1:15 PM (32 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

uh that ship has kinda sailed IMO, shady dealings on the wilfs in NJ be damned

Vikings' stadium looks like a ship, paid for through modern raping and pillaging.

xp yeah, but they're still attempting to tap into whatever lingering discontent there is about the process

I started off baby jjjustens entrance to this world by apologizing to him for the stadium fund

aw

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/24/us/citizens-without-a-country-wage-battle-with-liens.html?hp

great, minnesota as key example in a story about the sovereign citizens movement

is this interesting, or crazy?

http://www.southwestjournal.com/news/2013-city-election/for-safer-city-samuels-would-reach-out-to-six-families

Mayoral candidate Don Samuels says the way to make Minneapolis a safer city is to intervene with six families who are responsible for a high percentage of violent crime and to tighten gun control laws locally and nationally.

Samuels today laid out to reporters his public safety plan that he would enact if elected mayor. He did so backed by Sami Rahamim and John Souter. Rahamim’s father was killed and Souter was injured in the Accent Signage shooting a year ago.

Samuels, who lives on the north side of the city, said six extended families produce a “disproportionate” amount of violent crime in the city. He described the families not smimilar to organized crime organizations like the mafia, but as dysfunctional and in need of intervention.

weird

"smimilar" as an excellent typo

Seems...kind of creepy to me.

Like obv police depts target certain families all the time, but overtly and institutionally doing it sounds very much not ok.

I don't really know how I feel about this tbh. Like, if you run the statistics and there is a high correlation between violent crime and a small, specific number of families, it seems like common sense to focus your preventative efforts on them; particularly since this is how they're being targeted:

Samuels said as mayor he would personally visit each of these families with an offer from the city to provide these families with the best early childhood and K-12 education, tutoring, mentoring, counseling, job training, summer camps and anything else they need.

I mean, I get that failure means severe repercussions and there's a whole other conversation about setting ppl up to fail so that you can punish them like you wanted to in the first place, but OTOH offer my family the best early childhood and K-12 education muthafukka because that's an amazing deal.

interesting that he wants to do this carrot-stick stuff out in the open, rather just some hush-hush file in the MPD. the open acknowledgement is novel, maybe? i really wonder what kind of stick he can legally propose. 'take the preschool deal or...' what?

i dunno what it reminds me of. italian city-state craziness on one hand, counter-insurgency on the other

It sounds like a really good, progressive idea, as long as it isn't coercive. Uh, but: "Samuels said if the families reject the offer, there would be “a lot of consequences.”"

doing this out in the open, in the context of a campaign, is weird imo

reactionary/cynical take is that this is as much a solicitation for support FROM the Six Families as it is a promise to everyone else that he'll curb their activity. like, they're so influential criminally, they're prob worth a bunch of votes too?

i guess it's weird that the thing is presented in such a credulous style....like who are these six families? what proof do you have that they are responsible for all this violent crime etc?

Perhaps he should inform the cops.

I am guessing he got the info from publicly accessible arrest records

And then analyzed every violent crime arrest over a several year period and the traced back those accused through other public records to figure out who was related to what large extended family, and then sorted those crimes out from the whole and ran percentages?

given how segregated north is from the rest of the city, i wonder if this is something northsiders 'just know'

that's my assumption?

when we had this problem in limerick city they just created a special criminal court and changed the law and everyone was happy iirc

given how segregated north is from the rest of the city, i wonder if this is something northsiders 'just know'

― R'LIAH (goole), Wednesday, August 28, 2013 9:33 AM (50 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

well, if a mayoral candidate is publically advocating that the city government & police systematically target private individuals based on who they are related to, i'm gonna need a bit more than "just know"

right, of course.

But ... it's Don Samuels! He knows all!

http://maptitude1.tumblr.com/post/56702349101/these-maps-created-with-data-from-okcupid-show

oi minnesota, makin sense, not big on yrself tho

Yep, looks like the U.S. version of Scandinavian socialist paradise.

im mainly sitting here trying to comprehend the states that would rather lose their right to vote than their right to bear arms

Idaho tryin' hard to be Oklahoma or Mississippi on many of those maps.

im mainly sitting here trying to comprehend the states that would rather lose their right to vote than their right to bear arms

no kidding; we don't live in frontier times anymore, dummies