indefensible: john gruber

the one guy designs it i code it and grubes he links

ppl let him beta test all kinds of helvetica-heavy shit that he links to

Gruber: Bond’s gadgets have always been at the intersection of utility and elegance. Serve a necessary purpose, reliably, and look good doing it. That’s as good a motto for a software company as any.

fucking james bond

hoping it gets a feature that lets you wedgie gruber's underpants over his head

I don't understand the hate for this dude but likewise don't understand how he can be the number one apple blogger.
What do you guys think about kottke.org? He seems like he's in a similar group of commenter dudes who also make fonts on the side.

Gruber is sanctimonious. Kottke just likes linking to neat things and keeps the rest to himself, IME.

marco has posted about this, and now i am really not sure who i hate more

http://www.marco.org/2013/06/06/vesper

in which he goes on and on about balls

fucking srs

wow that is just an unbelievable blog post right there

Loool at getting linked to by Marco as "resentful" for saying sync is critical when he, eh, says sync is critical. Balls.

lmfaoooooo

balls

@gruber 8h
Hacker News hasn’t had a single link to Daring Fireball in months, so I presume DF is blacklisted. But why Vesper?

maybe hacker news just thinks you're a nutsack

thats low

just didnt get enuff upvotes to get to the front page: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5833388

the one guy designs it i code it and grubes he links

― lag∞n, Thursday, June 6, 2013 7:36 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

amazing post, so vaudeville

http://www.imore.com/debug-15-simmons-wiskus-gruber-and-vesper

Fuckin helveticunts

Dr Drang otm http://www.leancrew.com/all-this/2013/06/form-and-function/

flat design

imo this should basically be the free square in your game of 2013 ux-dude buzzword bingo

http://shawnblanc.net/2013/06/arment-vesper/

yeesh

it's pretty debatable whether or not "export" is a "power user feature"

Vesper’s current lack of sync, export, etc. isn’t an oversight; it’s an intentional omission at this time.

hah no matter how hard any of them try they just cant bring themselves to justify it

how is "iPad" a "power user feature"

it's another fucking hardware platform

balls, balls

HOW CAN YOU SHIP THE PLAYBOOK WITHOUT AN EMAIL APP

balls balls balls

http://www.marco.org/2012/01/22/rim-ceos-stepping-down

nailed it

this has nothing to do with apple but click on it

http://video.pandodaily.com/2fm

"One thing that has really been on my mind lately is the future of media." – Ben Brooks

http://brooksreview.net/2013/05/fucking-dogs/

What an asshole

ban these words: media, content

sam biddle was going off on this earlier https://twitter.com/samfbiddle

I am in no way suggesting that summoning Cthulhu to rise out of San Francisco Bay and massacre all of Silicon Valley would be a good thing, but I wouldn't do anything to stop it either.

We have a different name because we make a different sandwich. A true Philly hoagie is so much better than a “sub”, it’s not even funny. We’re famous for the cheesesteak, but the Philly hoagie is just as great. (Sarcone’s is the best; Primo’s are excellent too.)

i hate this guy.

He quoted all of marco's "balls" post

have we mentioned that he calls himself the "director" of the app?

So basically Grubes acted like a demanding, irascible client with very specific requirements about the design. Wonder if he paid them their hourly rate during development or if everyone was just in it for equity.

taking six months to dev this thing absolutely suggests that an asshole director demanding meaningless iterations. Clients like Gruber are fucking horrible.

Clients people

We have a different name because we make a different sandwich. A true Philly hoagie is so much better than a “sub”, it’s not even funny. We’re famous for the cheesesteak, but the Philly hoagie is just as great. (Sarcone’s is the best; Primo’s are excellent too.)

as someone from philly, NAH

the pizza in new york is so much better which is why they dont even call it pizza there they call it a different name like how always they change the name for the best stuff cause its better different

was kinda sad that th olde timey boston names of grinder and tonic for sub and soda didnt even make a blip on those maps rip

If you pretend to yourself that Arment hates those dudes' guts, his post about Vesper still makes sense

so has anyone actually tried it?