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and i'm the only one who can do anything about it so i should stop kvetching and take my independence and my small personal fortune and get out there and make something of my future

Doctor Who's on first (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 June 2013 21:13 (thirteen years ago)

attaboy

applied for two countem two jobs today rahh

bob_sleigher (darraghmac), Monday, 3 June 2013 21:56 (thirteen years ago)

I watched the last 3 eps of I Claudius and edited my OkCupid profile *fist pump*

Doctor Who's on first (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 June 2013 22:01 (thirteen years ago)

i caught three tics exactly of i claudius the other night i sez to herself i sez here i've heard of this and look yerman from lord of the rings is the lead what harm we'll watch it and jesus it was fucking rope that's my cred fucked round here for the week

bob_sleigher (darraghmac), Monday, 3 June 2013 22:03 (thirteen years ago)

haven't touched my okc profile in months, logged in for the first time in ages cause I got a "you've been chosen!" email, apparently someone called bux0mh0bbit rated me 5 stars, no lie :-/

too busy s1ockin' on my 乒乓 (wins), Monday, 3 June 2013 22:07 (thirteen years ago)

does she look like a hobbit

ghosts of erith spectral crackhouse slain rudeboy (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Monday, 3 June 2013 22:09 (thirteen years ago)

not enough

too busy s1ockin' on my 乒乓 (wins), Monday, 3 June 2013 22:11 (thirteen years ago)

ok I wasn't able to expand earlier cause wifi in the pub was rub but personally darragh I think it's a bad deal; to me "the dignity of labour" is bunk and like any sane person if a comfortable retirement were dangled in front of me right now I would step on a panda's face to get at it. I mean given the choice only a rube would spend most of their waking life (yes I haven't done the sums but it's 5 days to 2 right?) at work, and that applies equally to lugging crates around for t€$¢o and whatever white-collar thing you do.

but like I say, that's the deal, and I think you can extract a modicum of fulfilment from it (and I think "engage" is a better strategy than "disengage" as long as you do it on ur own terms)

anyroad

i can see some overlap but some not here tbh, i mean firstly even @ 9hrs pd x 5 that's 45/168 which isn't really all that bad a deal to keep a wolf from a door, as long as the work aint killing you slowly, historically speaking. yeah sure you can rack off another say 56 hrs of sleep from that time if you like, but personally i fuckin loooove sleeping and i think it fair to include it as 'me time' rather than writing it off as benefitting some vague creditor to be resented. if we split the difference it's 83/168 hours allowing for commute and ablutions if you consider those another onerous duty impeding yr eternal spirit (see the first entry in 'what's happening to our borad tmi' for my thoughts on that tbh) which is happily giving you (allowing for no other duties lol parents sorry u guys) half of your time as a productive member of society as pure profit.

im not buying any dignity of labour shite either, but participating in the system (and it is far from the worst system that has yet been devised afaict from a vague scan of history) to that extent as a bare minimum still seems like a p sweet deal, viewed as objectively as i can. taking fred taylor as our managerial theory/worklyfe starting point (as many modern texts are wont to do, more's the pity) as opposed to the top of maslow's pyramid (ironically, if the egyptians had lionised the loftier concepts of maslow's thinkings as they are often applied to the organisation of labour we'd never have had any pyramids but that is another thread) then even the likes of a tesco gig isn't too bad of a starting point (my brother is there oh shit maybe ten years at this stage, and i rocked the check polyester myself from 2004-2007 around and after college).

i think i digress tbh, but really i might take slight and companionable issue with the alignment of 'disengaging' as accepting a bad deal at work vis a vis one's personal tolerance and requirements financially, mentally and balancing everything else one looks for in an existence- it was really more in the spirit of turning off one's wider and loftier critical faculties and shifting in listchecker, boxticker mode once you find yourself on whatever clock ticks to the beat of your hourly wage. can't say as that it gives on the huge sense of satisfaction that was promised in the leaflets for tertiary education/secondary education/primary education or wherever you got your hardwiring from, but tbh and only personally speaking here, it has served better than the wallowing i engaged in for a few years before/while finding and completing a shitty college course. some buddhist-lite notion of 'don't go looking for shangri-la as a place of employment, that shit'll drive you mad'

bob_sleigher (darraghmac), Monday, 3 June 2013 22:23 (thirteen years ago)

tl;dr

fuck's sake don't look to get your fulfilment from work are you soft in the fuckin head son

bob_sleigher (darraghmac), Monday, 3 June 2013 22:24 (thirteen years ago)

i think it's more a case of "ok this isn't gonna be fulfilling" but it acts as just enough of a banal energy-sapping soul-crushing headfuck to negate most of yr other chances for finding said fulfillment. and i think it gets worser as you get older

Doctor Who's on first (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 June 2013 22:27 (thirteen years ago)

yes to progression within it, obv, and yes i recognise totally the desire after x period of time to kick on, but these are factors that plug into the equation, they dont invalidate it imo

bob_sleigher (darraghmac), Monday, 3 June 2013 22:29 (thirteen years ago)

I said "modicum" tbf daz

too busy s1ockin' on my 乒乓 (wins), Monday, 3 June 2013 22:30 (thirteen years ago)

I am soft in the head tho

too busy s1ockin' on my 乒乓 (wins), Monday, 3 June 2013 22:31 (thirteen years ago)

just another manic monday

Green_Partyhat for iFunny :) (Matt P), Monday, 3 June 2013 22:35 (thirteen years ago)

mod, i cum

bob_sleigher (darraghmac), Monday, 3 June 2013 22:36 (thirteen years ago)

ew

too busy s1ockin' on my 乒乓 (wins), Monday, 3 June 2013 22:38 (thirteen years ago)

blatant self-abuse of mod privs

too busy s1ockin' on my 乒乓 (wins), Monday, 3 June 2013 22:39 (thirteen years ago)

you need to give I Claudius a little time tbf

Doctor Who's on first (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 June 2013 22:47 (thirteen years ago)

i gave it the amount of time it took the actor shagging the empress or w/e to do three distinct impersonations of kenneth williams tbf

bob_sleigher (darraghmac), Monday, 3 June 2013 22:50 (thirteen years ago)

16 hours off every day, and 24 at the weekends. analyse it appropriately and it's a p good deal tbfh

― bob_sleigher (darraghmac), Monday, 3 June 2013 16:51 (5 hours ago) Bookmark

and yet you are not writing your novel

ghosts of lower belvedere high technology sludge incinerator (imago), Monday, 3 June 2013 22:51 (thirteen years ago)

nor am I, tbf. about to watch game of thrones. for inspiration, natch

ghosts of lower belvedere high technology sludge incinerator (imago), Monday, 3 June 2013 22:51 (thirteen years ago)

natch

ghosts of lower belvedere high technology sludge incinerator (imago), Monday, 3 June 2013 22:51 (thirteen years ago)

nartch

ghosts of lower belvedere high technology sludge incinerator (imago), Monday, 3 June 2013 22:51 (thirteen years ago)

gnaaaritch

ghosts of lower belvedere high technology sludge incinerator (imago), Monday, 3 June 2013 22:51 (thirteen years ago)

the novel may or may not have been started you slavedriving pest

bob_sleigher (darraghmac), Monday, 3 June 2013 22:52 (thirteen years ago)

GNNNNAWWWRIIIDGETCHCHCHCHCHCHCHCHCHKKKKKKKCHCHCHCHHHHHHHHHHh

ghosts of lower belvedere high technology sludge incinerator (imago), Monday, 3 June 2013 22:52 (thirteen years ago)

just fp'd myself

ghosts of lower belvedere high technology sludge incinerator (imago), Monday, 3 June 2013 22:53 (thirteen years ago)

GNNNNAWWWRIIIDGETCHCHCHCHCHCHCHCHCHKKKKKKKCHCHCHCHHHHHHHHHHh

man this is even worse than "malty" as nicknames go, give nilmarzinho a break

too busy s1ockin' on my 乒乓 (wins), Monday, 3 June 2013 22:55 (thirteen years ago)

anyway darragh I think we are basically in agreement and talking past each other re "disengagement" will maybe elborate when sober but prob not

too busy s1ockin' on my 乒乓 (wins), Monday, 3 June 2013 22:57 (thirteen years ago)

thought there was some kind of Ready Brekekekex joke hapning for a moment there

Doctor Who's on first (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 June 2013 22:57 (thirteen years ago)

elborate is boris johnson's nickname for himself when he's abroad y/n

bob_sleigher (darraghmac), Monday, 3 June 2013 23:00 (thirteen years ago)

el borat

too busy s1ockin' on my 乒乓 (wins), Monday, 3 June 2013 23:05 (thirteen years ago)

is that the joke?

too busy s1ockin' on my 乒乓 (wins), Monday, 3 June 2013 23:05 (thirteen years ago)

elbow rate

ghosts of lower belvedere high technology sludge incinerator (imago), Monday, 3 June 2013 23:06 (thirteen years ago)

he pays for lots of handjobs you see

ghosts of lower belvedere high technology sludge incinerator (imago), Monday, 3 June 2013 23:06 (thirteen years ago)

it would be a scandal for any other politician, but not our boris

ghosts of lower belvedere high technology sludge incinerator (imago), Monday, 3 June 2013 23:06 (thirteen years ago)

Mayor
Sex Tourist
Legerrrrnd

Doctor Who's on first (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 June 2013 23:08 (thirteen years ago)

ha

too busy s1ockin' on my 乒乓 (wins), Monday, 3 June 2013 23:09 (thirteen years ago)

inspiration: kill off half my characters!

ghosts of lower belvedere high technology sludge incinerator (imago), Tuesday, 4 June 2013 00:19 (thirteen years ago)

i think my brain might be made of porridge. i have started reading Martin Seligman's Learned Optimism. i don't know if i like him or trust him yet. i'm waiting to reach the bit that will change my life. i'm intercutting with Capital and Vaneigem just in case. i'm supposed to be doing something else, but i think my brain might be made of porridge and it's pretty damn hard to think. i think i might have always been a very shallow reader/thinker.

Doctor Who's on first (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 June 2013 09:06 (thirteen years ago)

Is Capital any good? I like Lanchester a lot (assuming it's him you're reading and not Marx) but am a bit wary of his attempt at a ~State of the Nation~ novel...

Neil S, Tuesday, 4 June 2013 09:11 (thirteen years ago)

i assume the Lanchester is terrible - see Fizzles' epic thread - i'm reading Marx

Doctor Who's on first (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 June 2013 09:12 (thirteen years ago)

:D

ghosts of lower belvedere high technology sludge incinerator (imago), Tuesday, 4 June 2013 09:18 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Axt_80nsfU

these is the only Emeralds i value

sleepish resistance (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 June 2013 09:18 (thirteen years ago)

Martin Seligman's Learned Optimism

oh I tried to like this because iirc Crabbits said nice things but there was one particular chapter where he became firmly wedged in the Them Not Us pigeonhole of my brain and after that we did not get on

I would not like to prejudice your own reading with further details but given your reservations on this thread you may very well know it when you get there

interested in your thoughts, anyway

been reading various self-help/pop-psych books of late trying to find What Is Wrong With Me And How To Fix It, mainly just reaching the conclusion that Everything Is Wrong With Me (But Not In A Very Interesting Way) And Nobody Knows How To Fix It

susuwatari teenage riot (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 4 June 2013 09:30 (thirteen years ago)

i'm guessing that Seligman is gonna tell us that that way of thinking is What Is Wrong With Us and we can unlearn it and make ourselves free - i'm just afeared the implication will be "free to be happy and useful under capitalism. am trying v. hard to stay openminded, sometimes a douchey sentence is followed by one that seems less douchey.

sleepish resistance (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 June 2013 09:37 (thirteen years ago)

and then the big unanswerables are along the lines of - maybe not everybody is equipped to function well in the society they inhabit, is learning to function well in said society a necessary good?, is even asking that question a sign of resistance and the result of lazily clinging onto safe bad habits of mind?

sleepish resistance (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 June 2013 09:40 (thirteen years ago)

free market capitalism needs unemployment and criminality as functional elements in the appropriate doses, maybe it needs discontent or failure or dysfunction in small doses too, either as moral exemplars or as draining off of potentially disruptive influence

sleepish resistance (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 June 2013 09:42 (thirteen years ago)

evolution as a mechanism depends on its failures as much as its successes?

sleepish resistance (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 June 2013 09:43 (thirteen years ago)

possible reaction to being and living and working amongst human detritus for long time

sleepish resistance (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 June 2013 09:47 (thirteen years ago)


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