Blue Saturday

I don't think I would like a desk job daz. But then I've never had one, unless (ugh) telesales counts

ah i'm just whining as per. sick of other people's foibles and sick of the wrong attention being paid to the wrong part of the job and sick of management gorillas beating their chests and trying to out-alpha the underclass and sick of being told to care about it

disengage, take the cheque, mouth the formulas, get out of there at five and read a nice book or w/e

- repeat until dead?

a reminder that job!=existence

That seems to be the deal xp

16 hours off every day, and 24 at the weekends. analyse it appropriately and it's a p good deal tbfh

What % of yr waking life is that tho

Ask the sheepfuxors

I mean I work weekends and have a 9hr day but

NV, I have a lot of trouble not getting angry about this stuff, especially 'competencies' (what happened to skills and knowledge?) and risk registers. A lot depends on how seriously everyone else takes it. If very seriously, that has a major impact on how seriously I take *them*. If not, happy to play the game to please the powers that be, and spend as little time on it as possible.

In a previous job one of our 'competencies' was 'If A then B thinking'. Imagine not having progressed to Level 2 in that. Bumping into walls, stepping off ledges...

Xp Yeah see now that is not the good stuff, tho tbh tesco had a good bit to recommend it

I have developed a mild appreciation of management science stuff over the last three or for years of being managed by someone who explicitly rejects it and prefers to govern by decree.

It can be a moderately useful way of ordering your thoughts, analysing your decisions and making yourself accountable, if done properly. Of course it can also be used to obfuscate and make yourself less accountable though.

You can use a shovel to plant flowers or to bash some skulls in

Poll

ok I wasn't able to expand earlier cause wifi in the pub was rub but personally darragh I think it's a bad deal; to me "the dignity of labour" is bunk and like any sane person if a comfortable retirement were dangled in front of me right now I would step on a panda's face to get at it. I mean given the choice only a rube would spend most of their waking life (yes I haven't done the sums but it's 5 days to 2 right?) at work, and that applies equally to lugging crates around for t€$¢o and whatever white-collar thing you do.

but like I say, that's the deal, and I think you can extract a modicum of fulfilment from it (and I think "engage" is a better strategy than "disengage" as long as you do it on ur own terms)

Idk i agree with u but for conclusion?

take what you can get? so a combo of my "get the max from ur grind" and ur "get thru it & go read a book" I guess

nothing to add but I am nodding my head in recognition over here in the corner at many things itt

(gotta write some SMART objectives of my own this week for my annual review next week. expecting to get in trouble for various reasons most of which are my fault, or the fault of these stupid mental blocks I should be grown-up enough to work around. dammit)

it's not really the ridiculous language's fault i guess. i just have no personal or career goals that don't involve being somewhere else doing something else.

and i'm the only one who can do anything about it so i should stop kvetching and take my independence and my small personal fortune and get out there and make something of my future

attaboy

applied for two countem two jobs today rahh

I watched the last 3 eps of I Claudius and edited my OkCupid profile *fist pump*

i caught three tics exactly of i claudius the other night i sez to herself i sez here i've heard of this and look yerman from lord of the rings is the lead what harm we'll watch it and jesus it was fucking rope that's my cred fucked round here for the week

haven't touched my okc profile in months, logged in for the first time in ages cause I got a "you've been chosen!" email, apparently someone called bux0mh0bbit rated me 5 stars, no lie :-/

does she look like a hobbit

not enough

ok I wasn't able to expand earlier cause wifi in the pub was rub but personally darragh I think it's a bad deal; to me "the dignity of labour" is bunk and like any sane person if a comfortable retirement were dangled in front of me right now I would step on a panda's face to get at it. I mean given the choice only a rube would spend most of their waking life (yes I haven't done the sums but it's 5 days to 2 right?) at work, and that applies equally to lugging crates around for t€$¢o and whatever white-collar thing you do.

but like I say, that's the deal, and I think you can extract a modicum of fulfilment from it (and I think "engage" is a better strategy than "disengage" as long as you do it on ur own terms)

anyroad

i can see some overlap but some not here tbh, i mean firstly even @ 9hrs pd x 5 that's 45/168 which isn't really all that bad a deal to keep a wolf from a door, as long as the work aint killing you slowly, historically speaking. yeah sure you can rack off another say 56 hrs of sleep from that time if you like, but personally i fuckin loooove sleeping and i think it fair to include it as 'me time' rather than writing it off as benefitting some vague creditor to be resented. if we split the difference it's 83/168 hours allowing for commute and ablutions if you consider those another onerous duty impeding yr eternal spirit (see the first entry in 'what's happening to our borad tmi' for my thoughts on that tbh) which is happily giving you (allowing for no other duties lol parents sorry u guys) half of your time as a productive member of society as pure profit.

im not buying any dignity of labour shite either, but participating in the system (and it is far from the worst system that has yet been devised afaict from a vague scan of history) to that extent as a bare minimum still seems like a p sweet deal, viewed as objectively as i can. taking fred taylor as our managerial theory/worklyfe starting point (as many modern texts are wont to do, more's the pity) as opposed to the top of maslow's pyramid (ironically, if the egyptians had lionised the loftier concepts of maslow's thinkings as they are often applied to the organisation of labour we'd never have had any pyramids but that is another thread) then even the likes of a tesco gig isn't too bad of a starting point (my brother is there oh shit maybe ten years at this stage, and i rocked the check polyester myself from 2004-2007 around and after college).

i think i digress tbh, but really i might take slight and companionable issue with the alignment of 'disengaging' as accepting a bad deal at work vis a vis one's personal tolerance and requirements financially, mentally and balancing everything else one looks for in an existence- it was really more in the spirit of turning off one's wider and loftier critical faculties and shifting in listchecker, boxticker mode once you find yourself on whatever clock ticks to the beat of your hourly wage. can't say as that it gives on the huge sense of satisfaction that was promised in the leaflets for tertiary education/secondary education/primary education or wherever you got your hardwiring from, but tbh and only personally speaking here, it has served better than the wallowing i engaged in for a few years before/while finding and completing a shitty college course. some buddhist-lite notion of 'don't go looking for shangri-la as a place of employment, that shit'll drive you mad'

tl;dr

fuck's sake don't look to get your fulfilment from work are you soft in the fuckin head son

i think it's more a case of "ok this isn't gonna be fulfilling" but it acts as just enough of a banal energy-sapping soul-crushing headfuck to negate most of yr other chances for finding said fulfillment. and i think it gets worser as you get older

yes to progression within it, obv, and yes i recognise totally the desire after x period of time to kick on, but these are factors that plug into the equation, they dont invalidate it imo

I said "modicum" tbf daz

I am soft in the head tho

just another manic monday

mod, i cum

ew

blatant self-abuse of mod privs

you need to give I Claudius a little time tbf

i gave it the amount of time it took the actor shagging the empress or w/e to do three distinct impersonations of kenneth williams tbf

16 hours off every day, and 24 at the weekends. analyse it appropriately and it's a p good deal tbfh

― bob_sleigher (darraghmac), Monday, 3 June 2013 16:51 (5 hours ago) Bookmark

and yet you are not writing your novel

nor am I, tbf. about to watch game of thrones. for inspiration, natch

natch

nartch

gnaaaritch

the novel may or may not have been started you slavedriving pest

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just fp'd myself

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man this is even worse than "malty" as nicknames go, give nilmarzinho a break

anyway darragh I think we are basically in agreement and talking past each other re "disengagement" will maybe elborate when sober but prob not

thought there was some kind of Ready Brekekekex joke hapning for a moment there