MAD MEN on AMC - Season 6

This was one of the songs at the party:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDqsQEBPBn4

So just how aloof from the actual business of the firm can Don get before he gets called on it? His name is off the company now, and obviously Ted's tuned in to his detachment.

felt like this was the most "lol THE SIXTIES" episode yet but still a lot of fun. closing scene w/Pete was A+

I thought Pete was gonna lose it after leaving Don's office. Maybe head to the ledge. Then I thought he was going to take it out on stan and fire him or start punching him. Sitting down w/ a joint while the mini-skirt and go-go boots walks by and Janis Joplin starts playing...even Pete's gonna get groovy now?

I hear he shows up for work next week in a Tzatziki.

playing a hummus

Oh I meant that other thing

dashiki :)

loool

Sitting down w/ a joint while the mini-skirt and go-go boots walks by and Janis Joplin starts playing...even Pete's gonna get groovy now?

agree that final scene felt a little off. rest of the episode was pretty good though.

all the while blowing it with manischevitz and meanwhile getting promoted to Chevy

that was pretty funny, that he got rewarded for messing up Roger's account. and then Roger's blow-off of the bad news, "ah well, that's been in the works for months" haha.

loved the meeting with the Carnation guys, where Roger and Don had no idea where the client was coming from

Bob's a classic case of failing upward

Coffee + fish short shorts = SUCCESS

"i'm vasco da gama and you're some other mexican."

I loved Roger showing up to the party dressed like Thurston Howell

season's final ep will be on 1968 election night perhaps.

"i'm vasco da gama and you're some other mexican."

that whole scene on the airplane was great.

loved the meeting with the Carnation guys, where Roger and Don had no idea where the client was coming from

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that was painful. the CEO was coming from an entirely different place, politically speaking, than they had trained themselves to anticipate.

dude was right about Nixon not being a "true" conservative tho!

Was this the first mention of "Dutch" Reagan on the show?

Carnation CEO was terrifying. Like John Huston in Chinatown but angrier.

I think so...?

T&L apparently floating the didea that Ginsberg is schizophrenic. seems unfounded imho, he seems more to embody the angst-ridden NY Jew stereotype

xp

wait.. was the soldier he had a visitation from the same soldier from the 1st episode?? Slate says so. hadn't realised if so.

yeah same guy. the guy whose lighter Don ended up with. which they kinda referred to, Don getting his cigarette lit was what made him see that guy in his dream.

T&L apparently floating the didea that Ginsberg is schizophrenic. seems unfounded imho, he seems more to embody the angst-ridden NY Jew stereotype

yeah, I missed some of the dialog there but I got the impression he was having a full on mental breakdown there. didn't he say something about them beaming thoughts into his head? they also made a point of emphasizing that he doesn't do drugs which I thought was meant to hint that he's actually losing his mind.

didn't he once tell peggy he was a martian?

i hope ginsberg doesn't lose it. i like the idea of him as a witty, eccentric guy who might have some demons but is talented and, unlike the other characters on this show, seems to genuinely have a conscience. most relatable character for me.

basically, i think he is too good of a character to turn into a mental illness plotline.

I liked Bob talking to Ginzo re:"having too many 'funny' cigarettes".

they also made a point of emphasizing that he doesn't do drugs which I thought was meant to hint that he's actually losing his mind.

I wouldn't read too much into this (altho it's true) - Woody Allen famously drug-free too and he is like archetypal tightly-wound neurotic NY Jew

i think he is too good of a character to turn into a mental illness plotline.

and yeah this

I do not think he just acts like an archetypal tightly-wound neurotic NY Jew. He definitely says slightly crazier things. Not making anything of that, just that I don't think of that behavior as that of a neurotic NY Jew. Speaking as a neurotic NY Jew.

the Mars thing/concentration camp orphan is probably the craziest, have wondered if they'll ever shine any more light on that

I wouldn't read too much into this (altho it's true) - Woody Allen famously drug-free too and he is like archetypal tightly-wound neurotic NY Jew

it's a totally unimportant detail though. you can already tell that he's not very hip. but if they did want to show a character who was mentally ill without the help of drugs, they would definitely need to point that out or else it would get lost among everyone else's acid and speed induced hallucinations that seem to happen every episode now.

the Mars thing/concentration camp orphan is probably the craziest, have wondered if they'll ever shine any more light on that

that could have just been a joke. ranting about transmissions into your head while your down on the floor having a fit is sort of a different level imo.

I don't remember the "transmission into my head" line tbh but maybe I missed it

"I can’t turn off the transmissions to do harm. They’re beaming ‘em right to my head"

- Woody Allen

LOL @ the sixties. Yes there were parts in here where Joan was watching the Chicago footage or these suits are standard around awkwardly at a hippie party and I was flashing back to seeing those kind of scenes in that 60's miniseries or Forrest Gump or a million other period pieces. Not that it isn't good to revisit that stuff and think about it from new perspectives. Hearing about the 60's when I was a teenager during the Beatles Anthology and hearing about them now when I'm in my 30's, it's interesting to consider the things that have happened since then in light of whatever world-turning events went on in the 60's. Like that one CEO guy pretty much said the same thing about Chicago demonstrators that I've heard a number of 'hip' youths say about Occupiers. I'm glad the show doesn't do this all the time though.

That was a super frustrating episode for almost everyone involved! I wonder if Megan is pregnant or if Don is just going more and more into Imaginationland. Feels like the main theme of this season for Don has been Tune In, Turn On, Drop Out (let everyone else clean up after you).

Think Megan is defo preggers. However oblique the 'next week on Mad Men' trailer is every week, we saw Megan holding her tummy yet again, in addition to the clues in the episode.

Though they might just play that angle just to screw with our heads, it didn't have any other, or counteractive, meaning in the episode and got underlined by the 'next week' bit. Just a hunch.

Still gathering my thoughts on this episode, but what a great one it was, yet again.

the inclusion of the soldier from ep1 was genuinely freaky/disturbing, especially the line about what Don would find in the afterlife

"I can’t turn off the transmissions to do harm. They’re beaming ‘em right to my head"

who's "they"?

DUTCH REAGAN

I doubt Megan's pregnant so soon after the miscarriage - saw it more as Don wanting her to quit her job & raise babies & devote her life to him, Betty style.

xp i rewatched the episode right now. i think he meant that being in the ad world had naturalized capitalism/branding/corporate culture for him, made it second nature, and he feels this to be a violation.

Really hating this season overall. Part of me really wishes this show had stayed in a permanent 1960 and avoided all the "topical" bullshit. The first two seasons were so much better than anything since.

If they stayed in permanent 1960, they'd have been through so many different Sallys by now, but, ironically, the same number of Bobbys as they have anyway.

pffft xp

xp i rewatched the episode right now. i think he meant that being in the ad world had naturalized capitalism/branding/corporate culture for him, made it second nature, and he feels this to be a violation.

Yeah, this comes after Cutler calling him out. He feels compromised and too weak to not be part of the machinery of oppression, etc.