THE GAME OF THRONES/ASOIAF SPOILER THREAD (WARNING: SPOILERS)

Yeah, that's what I thought! I guess they just wanted BF there for the old lady lols?

sort of vaguely annoyed that changes like the death of talisa "spoil" the future of jeyne westerling in the books

i mean i never really bought the jeyne westerling is secretly pregnant/magic stuff, but

that kind of stuff will start happening a lot more i guess

pretty sure seasons after this one will deviate more and more towards a similar endgame as Martin's as they know the broad strokes of the story going forward and obv books 4 & 5 need some rewriting (and expecting season 4 to be m/l a tyrion-centric Law & Order: King's Landing thing after Joffrey kicks it around episode 3 or 4).

that was very well done i thot. very nice pacing of the moments right before things got stabby and nothing too heavy handed so that even tho you knew something was going to happen it was still given the chance to be shocking. i am cool with them trading the unconvincing speculation over jeyne for an awesome moment in the show. also a wee male heir is good for no one, this should all end with bran as a tree and a queen in the north.

really could've done with one more scene between daario, jorah and worm getting busy and then returning victorious. just a quick scene with some extras thrown together to show that some other people were involved. it was a little too brazen with the whole off-screen battle thing, close to self parody.

It wasn't very smooth, almost like a scene had been edited out.

Yeah that bit felt like a total cheat. Everything else in this episode tremendously well done, not just the RW. Bran discovering the extent of his powers had a real weight to it.

And Frey's introduction of his daughters/granddaughters was hilarious.

Yeah, Frey was killing his scenes, as it were.

this should all end with bran as a tree and a queen in the north.

Can a tree be a queen??

neither a queen nor a king i'll wager

so it has v slowly dawned on me, they have manufactured much more of a substantial reveal out of ramsay now that it matters more who roose is. i didn't really get why they were continuing to be so coy about that, and now it seems obvious but also inspired.

so what are the big shocking moments still to come? jon getting killed at the wall and tywin-tyrion and um can't really think of anything else

Cersei's downfall/degradation

oberyn vs gregor

the entirety of the royal wedding and it's immediate aftermath obviously too

oh yeah cersei & oberyn vs gregor. so sad for the red viper. also monster making in the deepest, darkest dungeons of king's landing.

dany pooping herself over and over

yeah they'll make some good fun out of qyburn's dark side, i'm sure.

stoneheart reveal still to come, presumably. have any other POV characters been killed since catelyn? other than lol jon snow who is prob not dead.

yeah can someone remind me whether all that stuff in book 4 that happened in Dorne was important?

the final reveal that doran has been working with Varys/Illyrio and plotting the downfall of the Lannisters all along seems maybe important in the endgame but the stuff in dance of dragons with quentyn and who's gonna marry who for political purposes just bored me to tears.

Quentyn worst character and subplot in the entire series.

PURPLE WEDDING!!!!!!!!!!

I'm ashamed of you all.

the entirety of the royal wedding and it's immediate aftermath obviously too

― Clay, Monday, June 3, 2013 7:45 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

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Also Littlefinger killing Lyssa.

i like that in the other thread some one is worrying about the possibility of there being starkzombies next season.
also i've been having a shitty time and the reactions to this ep are really making me feel a lot better. perfect distraction. that also pushed me into wanting more asoiaf so i ended up on a forum with heavy speculation about future books (including speculation about random characters i have no memory of) and i feel like some ppl have amazing memories and mucho time&dedication to these books

yh i feel this huge delight and admiration when i read speculation posts on... westeros.org, or wherever it is. people are so excited about these stories! they have noticed all these connections some of which may not actually exist! they are the best.

joffreys wedding
viper v mountain
tyrion killing tywin

and then basically nothing else

jon getting killed is anticlimactic since it seems so fake

all the iron islands/essos stuff is so terrible

although i think they stumbled this season in drawing the material out to have the red wedding hit episode 9, i have confidence in the dudes who are stage managing this affair and i think they will be pretty ruthless in discarding the chaff and keeping focus where grrm started to lose his. the show will probably make the later books seem better in retrospect. season 4 is going to start fast, which i think it will need to, and then there's going to be a lot of dorne. we'll see how they navigate that. iron islands are inevitably going to get short shrift.

yeah, i agree with that. was thinking yesterday that if you just describe the post-red wedding plot it sounds pretty good, but somehow grrm has been terrible at turning that into effective books

Awwwwright. The show's caught up to where I stopped reading.

I'm weirded out by the differences between book-Stannis and show-Stannis. What I like about book-Stannis is how righteous and stodgy he is, his desire for the crown seemed motivated by propriety more than power lust or religious motivation. Meanwhile, show-Stannis' plot is altered so that he meets the true heir, Gendry, and needs to be convinced not to off him. Weird?

Gendry's a bastard, he's only in the line of succession if he's legitimate.

They're just replaying the Edric Storm plotline from the books.

they do seem to have tried to make stannis more 'interesting' which i suppose is necessary for tv vs book. you have more latitude to make 'boring' characters more interesting on the page.

I am so excited for next season mainly for Dorne, the Martells are my boos.

That was a confusing misread

GRRM confirmed that RV is being cast. I say bring on the sexy brown people!!! (Btw, having "red" as an epithet apparently not a good look in the series.)

Trying to think of any other humorless, literal-minded, rule-abiding characters on tv shows. Marrimow on The Wire?

read an interview with michelle fairley where she talked about how she'll miss everyone, which i guess she has to say really, but still pretty lol. however, it made me realize, her continued involvement when they start filming again is going to get spoilered immediately.

Not if they introduce Stoneheart next episode- or if they've filmed ahead.

oh yeah i guess i was assuming it wouldn't be next episode but that would actually make perfect sense

Season cliffhanger is a toss up between zombie Cat and mammoths really.

DJP, my misread? I couldn't think of how to type that niggling concern sorry if it came out weird. It makes sense that a bastard can't claim a title on his own, but I thought Stannis would play it different, somehow. Something Arthurian. I guess getting your dick sucked for black magic was a pretty good consolation prize.

lol no, my misread of "the Martells are my boo(b)s"

(when in doubt, look for the labored dirty joke)

Good, I guessed right then. I must be learning to speak DJP after all.

final scene of seasons one and two have ended on a new intro to the supernatural in this world, so the reawakening of catelyn (plus giving new viewers a brief glimpse of hope and vengeance after last week's devastation) and closing out the dangling story of beric is pretty much inevitable in my mind.

I think it'd be strange, dramatically, to have her come back to life this coming ep, but we'll see. They've def. got to kill The Hound tho

I hope Littlefinger has arrived at the Eyrie, that'd be fun