Noah Baumbach and Greta Gerwig's "Frances Ha"

tbf most good movies are abt bored rich people milling about

otm

really loved the trip to paris part.

― we're up all night to get (s1ocki), Monday, May 13, 2013 9:27 AM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark

loved how mundane it was, perfectly captures that vibe of when u fly someplace for no reason and have nothing to do there

i just saw it. felt like it was kind of average, maybe slightly above-average, instance of a kind of film that i generally don't like very much. accordingly, i chuckled a few times and was charmed by a few scenes that were basically above-average versions of scenes i've seen in movies-like-this, but was mostly kind of restless and occasionally irritated.

i give it one pfffffft.

should have seen the croods at the dollar cinema.

maybe adults-who-talk-like-children is sociologically accurate but boy does it wear on me

best part of movie was this song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-GkwIRbLw8

..and then he had to ruin it by playing it again, in an ironic mode, as a kind of punchline.

i think baumy has a great knack for observing human behavior

was that the species?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geVZYCcAdBc

i just saw it. felt like it was kind of average, maybe slightly above-average, instance of a kind of film that i generally don't like very much. accordingly, i chuckled a few times and was charmed by a few scenes that were basically above-average versions of scenes i've seen in movies-like-this, but was mostly kind of restless and occasionally irritated.

it's a sharp sociological study -- I know MEN like this. But the pleasure isn't simply mimetic: I think he got off laughs at their expense while still retaining affection for the type. And, most importantly, it's 86 minutes long.

but I don't think Manhattan is a great film either so

You're completely insane

stick your head in a trough, waterboy

otm re: manhattan

i think waterface is otm in regard to manhattan. although i don't know if it's a great film or if i just love it, and whether or not i should make a distinction between these two things.

'noah baumbach' and 'greta gerwig's fraces ha

Laughed a lot at the "How about we fake fight?" scene.

Loved how this felt more like an unpredictable short story or novella than a more standard screenplay. Ad the black-and-white brought me back to seeing Stranger Than Paradise, She's Gotta Have It, etc., at the arthouse as a teenager (saw it at a mainstream-arty multiplex).

Saw Dean Wareham in the credits. He must've been one of the Paris-convo dinner-party guests, or was he somewhere else?

This also made me think about how people (esp in their 20s) fantasize about compatible roommates as much as true love.

Yes. He stood out because he looked too damn handsome -- and I recognized his voice.

This also made me think about how people (esp in their 20s) fantasize about compatible roommates as much as true love.

For Frances they were one in the same. I found the ending where she's looking across the room like that, so teenage, but she's older than that.

Yeah--and, related to that, the movie reminded me of a kind of early-post-adolesence time of not seeing the overt sexual undercurrents to certain moments, so it was credible that she could loaf around in bed her with her best friend without sensing any tension, and be kind of aware and kind of not to the guy's overt propositions.

the sexlessness was one of Stephanie Zacharek's few complaints.

This also made me think about how people (esp in their 20s) fantasize about compatible roommates as much as true love.

― The End**^ (Eazy), Sunday, June 2, 2013 10:03 AM (10 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

hah awesome

The sexlessness was one of the most admirable, real things about the g-d thing!

yeah seriously

this was really great, guess i have to seperate what a corny lech baumbach personally seems like from his work, will do

I'm not sure I want to watch Gerwig having sex tbh

Eric Ha

back when she was at salon zacharek used to complain that every movie was 'sexless.' charles taylor was (of course) even worse.

was interesting to me how fran's overenthusiastic spiel @ the dinner party before she goes to paris abt shared thoughts & eye contact across a party etc etc so closely mirrored hannah in girls near the end of the one mans trash ep. think they both really tap into a specific & true type of neuroticism abt the desire to connect/share experiences

wow mid-life crisis bro was careful not to put his new young girlfriend in any romantic or sexual situations in the movie they made together, he must really love her for her mind

i don't think it matters why romantic plots were avoided, but the fact that they were was something i appreciated about this movie. also, baumbach and gerwig co-wrote this why is everyone assuming baumbach was the major creative force here? if anything, i think the difference between this movie and baumbach's generally bleaker older work points to the strong presence of gerwig.

I can't get past Greta Gerwig being the name of a young person. Greta Gerwig should be the name of some high school friend of my mother's who is always showing up in her pointless stories, and who I never actually meet, or maybe meet once when I'm 12 at a dinner party my parents throw and she's in town "Oh great news, Greta Gerwig is coming!"

old-fashioned names are hip again. my cousin just had a kid and named her millicent.

wow, that's taking it far

are Muriel Spark's novels hits with the smart set or

all the cool young actresses are named eunice kranmer these days

Seems weird to complain about sexlessness. I like the way the film prioritises friendship over romance (and passes the Bechdel Test with flying colours) and avoids the MPDG trap. It would be hard to introduce a relationship for Frances without rendering the movie much less interesting and making you wonder if the guy she falls for is proxy Baumbach.

I'm not sure I want to watch Gerwig having sex tbh

You haven't seen Greenberg then.

I brushed my teeth during that scene.

That was a good scene if you like bleak slapstick humor

greta gerwig's middle name is celeste

(Making the rounds on Tumblr)

http://24.media.tumblr.com/2f9b69b6092ee1d7d37aae03d182b691/tumblr_mnvpcuPXer1qz7gtqo1_500.gif

Frances Ha is Playing At Your House

james murphy's life seems pretty great

'noah baumbach' and 'greta gerwig's fraces ha

― Lamp, Sunday, June 2, 2013 2:06 AM (3 days ago) Bookmark

wanna know what u think lamp

haha whoa

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"Francis Ha" Is Nothing To Laugh About
(1 star out of 10) 6 May 2013 | by kiss_trigger-570-471334 (United States) – See all my reviews
Baumbach is the Bed, Bath, and Beyond of indie, his newest film resembling the tacky ten dollar pre-framed black and white photos of vague French "bohemian" cityscapes that you buy and hang in a dirty insurance office's bathroom to distract you from the smell and the crack in the wall. Films whose "bitter, angry characters" are stick-figure caricatures embodied by actors neither complex or talented enough to make their character's bitterness or anger anything deeper than a mere external affectation, directed by a clever hipster con artist hiding the heart of his arch conservatism.

Anyone who would hire Ben Stiller ("Greenberg") to play an embittered intellectual railing against the corporate mediocrity of modern life should be, at the very least, highly suspect. Gerwig now stands as the latest media-manufactured "it" girl, an unthreatening and perfectly insipid creature made-to-order for a dead and non-existent counterculture.

Still, Baumbach and his muse are very necessary these days to convince an already euthanized and brainwashed Generation ZZZ that their spiritual, moral, and political malaise is a livable, "charming" and tolerable one, so that they can really, really forgive themselves for not roaring back like a million untamed lions against the state-sponsored execution of their hearts, minds, and souls as previous generations once did, for better or worse. In that sense, Baumbach may become the most cherished of contemporary cinematic frauds, a directorial eunuch as safe and as impotent as the audiences who flock to the flattery of his films rather than by those individuals perceptive enough to be thoroughly repulsed by them.

And put aside those desperate comparisons to the French New Wave, or 70's Woody Allen. What you're seeing on screen is the rotting carcass of a nation's exhausted cinema .... pointless, empty triviality posturing as wry social observation, spewed from the wealthy pockets of a talentless hack with too many inside connections and Taschen art books piled up onto his conspicuously displayed Eames chair.

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Bold anti-hipster stance

that guy also made this thread http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0587944/board/nest/209194977

it's a shame those maoist film critics retired

http://www.prisoncensorship.info/archive/etext/movies/

would have read their review of this film

I would definitely question Frances's anti-imperialist credentials.