Star Trek: Classic or Dud?

that time sisko went undercover as a Klingon, there was this look in the actor's eyes like "finally I get to do something fun!"
there's a line later where he goes "I'll miss those fangs" -- I think that's brooks talking, not just sisko

smdh

Andrew Robinson is a brilliant character actor, Garak is awesome.

but yeah. I don't even understand *how* Sisko is bland. I'm confused over what you could possibly want from that character that Avery Brooks does not bring.

If I had the time and skill and wherewithal, I would make a supercut of Avery Brooks' more astounding moments of scenery chewing and general weirdness re: his delivery of certain lines (one in particular is in an, I think, mirror universe episode (or as we like to call them Kira Wears a Headband episodes) where he changes command codes and when MirrorKira finds out, he throws up his hands and says, "Ha HA! I changed it!" in a way that defies description) and I would probably watch it like, every day.

One interesting thing they could have done was make him less duty-bound.
Like have him more actively rebel against obligations to star fleet and being a messiah.

"In the Pale Moonlight"

Mirror sisko was great but that just underlines how regular sisko is a bland anchor character

Quark is kind of vexing, he's sort of played for the usual scoundrel lols but then it's like 'hi your work for hire dancer contract stipulates you must also fuck me' which is kind of like, oh i see he's a total piece of shit?

he gets more interesting throughout the series imo

He's plenty interesting! After that episode though I'm just reading him as more 'total reprehensible scumbag' than 'waggish ne'er do well'.

I liked in the pale moonlight but it's garak who gets to do the scarface "you need me to be the bad guy" speech. He's practically rubbing the constraints of the sisko character in his face.

It might have also been interesting to follow the slippery ethics of wartime sisko to some kind of psychologically rending conclusion over an arc (like they do with dukat) but he's basically cool with it by end of episode.

Nunez, you are straight-up crazy, Sisko is just barely below Picard's level on excitable scenery-chewing

He's plenty interesting! After that episode though I'm just reading him as more 'total reprehensible scumbag' than 'waggish ne'er do well'.

He has a really good character arc. That's another reason to stick with the show.

most definitely

fyi this is my keyring

It's kinda beat up now, the NEVER PLACE FRIENDSHIP ABOVE PROFIT used to be legible

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i also have a click-pen that shows you a different Rule of Acquisition every time you click it :D

nice!

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DS9 was my jam when I was 14 and this thread got me nostalgic and I'm 5 minutes into S1E1 and OMG you're right about SIsko, its like english is his 2nd language and the intonations h'es using are perfectly normal in his language but in english its the worst. Just the way he says "Acknowledged" in that first scene . . .

imma FP the next person who throws shade at Sisko

FOR REAL

sisko's the only thing i remember liking from any of the DS9 episodes i watched.

odo is awesome c'mon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_NQnac8Abk

BOO YA

I just learned what John de Lancie (Q) is up to these days:

Discord is the former ruler of Equestria, and the main antagonist of The Return of Harmony Part 1 and part 2. Once Discord escapes from his stone prison, Twilight Sparkle and her friends must act quickly to summon the Elements of Harmony in order to stop him. He is a representation of the disharmony of pony kind.

(spoilers for a Maquis episode but this scene is great)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XS4L8owZinw

xp yeah he voices the villain in My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic. Also he voices the father of the Desmond, the protagonist of the videogame series Assassin's Creed.

'the Desmond' lol I spekes Engerlish well good...

Those are good Sisko clips! The face he makes after he pops Q is the kind of weird acting flourish I have been talking about.

i love how he's a total peace & love hippie irl, it's kinda funny in contrast with the clipped brooding captainyness of sisko

avery brooks I mean, not Q

Hey you know that Jeff and I will be seeing Mr. Brooks on Sunday. And Patrick Stewart on Saturday. La di da

Duuuurh, don't know how I managed to miss it before but this show now makes a lot more sense when I realised that different races = DIFFERENT RACES

xpost omg u guys!! how exciting!!

Jesus, this show is significantly weirder than I remember. Siske negotiating with his memories in the wormhole is some budget Lynchian shit.

I generally like mannerist performances/disjunctive effects in all kinds of things so I expect once I get over the bends I will be a big Brooks/Sisko fan.

When he shows up with a goatee you're almost there, and when he shaves his head you will have arrived at your destination.

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Wait how big is this click pen -- are t there like 100 rules?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmXzamLDgFk

This is totally Avery Brooks coming through in the character. This was in the last episode before the final 9 episode story arc. Perfect setup.

xpost lol no not all of them, I think it has like 6 or 7 of them

i have totally blanked on that "he's just a man!" clip, how i could forget the Sisko rage

He was the original Barack Obama - after Sisko, the way had already been paved.

ebert being inattentive to that pleasure in a positive review is frankly a black mark, but he earns back my goodwill in the nemesis review where he says "life is too short to sit through 10 movies in which the power is shifted around on these shields".

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Agreed, this is great:

I've also had it with the force shield that protects the Enterprise. The power on this thing is always going down. In movie after movie after movie I have to sit through sequences during which the captain is tersely informed that the front shield is down to 60 percent, or the back shield is down to 10 percent, or the side shield is leaking energy, and the captain tersely orders that power be shifted from the back to the sides or all put in the front, or whatever, and I'm thinking, life is too short to sit through 10 movies in which the power is shifted around on these shields. The shields have been losing power for decades now, and here it is the Second Generation of Star Trek, and they still haven't fixed them. Maybe they should get new batteries.

reading that i don't think ebert understands shields - they are protective, they get damaged by enemy fire, energy ablates, and they get less effective. it's not like there are batteries that are running down.

ds9 is spoilt a lot by the new agey rubbish and politics at the end, imo. i prefer voyager. but would watch both again tomorrow.

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That moment when you realise that for months you have been block recording every TNG re-run to an online archive provided by your ISP.

Why not just buy the recent HD remasters?

Because I need money for Sparks remasters I forgot to buy in 2008.