What would be the present day equivalent of Cybil's Cole Porter album for GG? Carole King?
― Sheela-Tubb-Mann, You Real Know-It-All (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 12 May 2013 19:50 (eleven years ago) link
Cyndi Lauper.
― The last of the famous international Greyjoys (Nicole), Sunday, 12 May 2013 21:07 (eleven years ago) link
Who is their Orson Welles?
― tokyo rosemary, Monday, 13 May 2013 02:44 (eleven years ago) link
don't forget Cybill did a Cole Porter MOVIE for Bogdanovich
(that finished a whole buncha things)
― ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Monday, 13 May 2013 02:46 (eleven years ago) link
Who is their Orson Welles?― tokyo rosemary, Sunday, May 12, 2013 9:44 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― tokyo rosemary, Sunday, May 12, 2013 9:44 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Bogdanovich, no? Apparently Baumbach is also tight w/De Palma (he interviewed him for a featurette on the CC Blow-Out, which included allusions to them hanging out). However BDP is still working regularly, so...Captain Ascot it is!
― Sheela-Tubb-Mann, You Real Know-It-All (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 13 May 2013 04:09 (eleven years ago) link
rosie bogdanovich is their orson welles :(
― balls, Monday, 13 May 2013 04:10 (eleven years ago) link
every millenial is their own orson welles
― Treeship, Monday, 13 May 2013 04:24 (eleven years ago) link
wow so i'd heard bogdanovich ran a 'letter of apology' after at long last love flopped but i never knew it was THIS (pretty far from apologetic):
http://www.thelmagazine.com/images/blogimages/2011/06/17/1308330989-bogdanovichloveletter.jpg
what a fucking schmuck
btw anyone w/ any curiosity about at long last love, thinking a fiasco that legendary must be somehow inadvertantly entertaining, do not bother. it is one dreary turd of a movie. can't even begin to imagine what his daisy miller was like.
― balls, Monday, 13 May 2013 04:47 (eleven years ago) link
this is great
i really liked it
― we're up all night to get (s1ocki), Monday, 13 May 2013 05:09 (eleven years ago) link
how much dancing?
― balls, Monday, 13 May 2013 05:11 (eleven years ago) link
Oh, I hope Bogdanovich moves in with them and starts ranting about Fudgesicles.
― tokyo rosemary, Monday, 13 May 2013 05:14 (eleven years ago) link
really loved the trip to paris part.
― we're up all night to get (s1ocki), Monday, 13 May 2013 13:27 (eleven years ago) link
Bogdanovich should endorse a line of celebrity ascots.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 13 May 2013 14:12 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, this was pretty great; think I liked it even more than Damsels in Distress.
― Not Simone Choule (Eric H.), Monday, 13 May 2013 14:17 (eleven years ago) link
yeah... yeah!!! suck it johny crunmch
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Monday, 13 May 2013 14:21 (eleven years ago) link
*farts*
― johnny crunch, Monday, 13 May 2013 15:44 (eleven years ago) link
This is a ridiculously charming movie, which means that some people will find ridiculously irritating but screw those people.
I can see why they wanted to emphasise that it germinated before Girls because the territory's very similar except the characters are 10x more likeable.
― Deafening silence (DL), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 03:06 (eleven years ago) link
i've seen bogdanovich's 'daisy miller,' it's as boring as you'd expect, tho cybill s. is pretty well cast.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 03:39 (eleven years ago) link
except the characters are 10x more likeable.
kind of a low bar there, but point made.
― i kant believe it's not buffon (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 03:43 (eleven years ago) link
2 very different takes on this I read:
Noah Baumbach’s Frances Ha achieves something that is rare in cinema. It creates a distinct, internally consistent world, fully populated with vivid characters. Unfortunately, those characters are fucking hipsters.
“I Internet-acquired three very rare Ray-Bans. I had a great day.” I don’t know anybody who talks like that, and I have to give props to what may be the film's most almost-likeable character, but this is the world Baumbach delivers. From The Squid and the Whale (which I liked) to Greenberg, the director tends to fill his movies with insufferable boors. Many hail this new film as a delightful mid-career course correction. But from the movie's opening frame, the spoiled man- and woman-children of Frances Ha operate in a precious, blinkered milieu, selfish and largely unsympathetic even when they aren't urinating in public. http://dcist.com/2013/05/out_of_frame_frances_ha.php
versus:
Baumbach has created a fey, sneakily charming generational touchstone on a par with “Annie Hall” and his own Gen Y col-grad comedy “Kicking and Screaming.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/goingoutguide/frances-ha-movie-review/2013/05/22/93746ee2-c115-11e2-8bd8-2788030e6b44_story.html
― curmudgeon, Saturday, 25 May 2013 17:45 (eleven years ago) link
in what universe was kicking and screaming gen y
― balls, Saturday, 25 May 2013 17:54 (eleven years ago) link
this is so much better than Kicking and Screaming.
― Simon H., Saturday, 25 May 2013 18:22 (eleven years ago) link
what balls said
― Sheela-Tubb-Mann, You Real Know-It-All (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 25 May 2013 18:57 (eleven years ago) link
anyone who actually complains about "fucking hipsters" doesn't deserve to write for a living
― we're up all night to get (s1ocki), Sunday, 26 May 2013 07:11 (eleven years ago) link
when i hear the word 'hipster' i reach for my...
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Sunday, 26 May 2013 10:23 (eleven years ago) link
think the first reviewer might have missed the intended ridiculousness of the ray bans comment, and also that there's no way that guy is the films most almost-likeable character
― chinavision!, Sunday, 26 May 2013 15:29 (eleven years ago) link
Sigh at people who dislike films because 'uh I didn't like the characters'.
― Van Horn Street, Sunday, 26 May 2013 15:35 (eleven years ago) link
i haven't read this thread but is this movie mumblecore
― 乒乓, Sunday, 26 May 2013 17:12 (eleven years ago) link
I know a mumblecore movie when I see one, by the title. this is a mumblecore movie.
so why ask
― we're up all night to get (s1ocki), Sunday, 26 May 2013 20:34 (eleven years ago) link
#mumblecore
― 乒乓, Sunday, 26 May 2013 20:51 (eleven years ago) link
i think the answer tells you what kind of an excuse you have to look at greta gerwig
― j., Sunday, 26 May 2013 20:54 (eleven years ago) link
After a cringe-y start, it was okay.
http://humanizingthevacuum.wordpress.com/2013/05/27/frances-ha/
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 03:08 (eleven years ago) link
Eh fuck it -- it was good, better than his other films except Squid.
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 03:10 (eleven years ago) link
Indie dreamgirls are feminized versions of their male indie writer-directors. Julie Delpy of the Before series is the most successfully realized, I think: her insecurities are her own.
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, May 11, 2013 5:39 PM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
not sure whats going on up here but gerwig seems decided not an indie dream girl, shes not super attractive and is generally just way too realistic, anyway this looks p rad im looking forward to it
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 04:21 (eleven years ago) link
also she co-wrote the movie and wasn't an object of romantic longing for any character in the film, so the term "dream girl" wouldn't fit, unless she is supposed to be the audience's "dream girl". in this sense idk... i disagree with lagoon because i think she is very attractive and in this film is completely endearing, but not in a way that seems to cater to any sort of male fantasy. i don't think frances is obviously a product of a male imagination, directly or indirectly, even though this film is in many ways a millenial update of Manhattan.
― Treeship, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 04:30 (eleven years ago) link
She's arguably an object of romantic longing for Benji, but I agree that she makes good on her plea of "undateable" and bravo to her, et al.
― Not Simone Choule (Eric H.), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 04:46 (eleven years ago) link
fwiw not trying say gerwig is hideously disfigured or anything just shes in the normal attractive person range not the zoey deschanel/natalie portman special professional beautiful actor one
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 04:50 (eleven years ago) link
natalie portman is meh
― leno dunham (get bent), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 04:57 (eleven years ago) link
i can totally get not being into her, she doesnt personally really move me, but she is obviously perfectly formed
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 05:00 (eleven years ago) link
i just think maybe gwyneth paltrow works better in the "special professional beautiful actor"/"perfectly formed" role. i actually sort of RESENT how perfect-looking gwyneth is.
― leno dunham (get bent), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 05:04 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i just mentioned portman and zoey cause they are indie dream girls, anyway i think gerwig is compelling for being a more ordinary person, her acting/general vibe feels realistic too
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 05:07 (eleven years ago) link
natalie, zooey, gwyneth, and greta are all perfect-looking to me tbh although i can see how greta doesn't conform as perfectly to contemporary beauty standards as the other three. love natalie portman btw... don't get the hate. i might be a bigger fan of black swan than most people though, and more forgiving of garden state.
― Treeship, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 05:08 (eleven years ago) link
but yeah... gerwig's shtick is more like diane keaton's in that it is based on the idiosyncrasies of her personality.
― Treeship, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 05:09 (eleven years ago) link
Keaton was stunning in a way GG probably won't ever be.
― Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 10:05 (eleven years ago) link
GG's presence in FH is so odd that I'm having trouble thinking whom she evokes or reminds me of.
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 10:57 (eleven years ago) link
it occurred to me that the boyfriend (adam?) in "girls" is kind of a manic pixie dream guy, no?
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 12:17 (eleven years ago) link
I think he's an indie "it" guy but this movie is the only place i can think of where he was dreamy. On Girls his character can be pretty dark at times, and is always a little "off" and not in a cute way.
― Treeship, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 12:38 (eleven years ago) link
baumbach seems obsessed with being an old fogey and his difficulties relating to young folk
check plot of his next (?) movie
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1791682/
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 12:40 (eleven years ago) link
Looks like a good cast. I love Naomi Watts.
― Treeship, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 12:42 (eleven years ago) link