"Hipster" as pejorative.

oh, she can be local band dj, who plays local bands and actually knows people

sounds hipster enough

b-but is it even possible to be a tireless booster of your local scene AND a snarky jaded hipster?
I fear for the day when she has to choose...

yeah, she just has to be all like "oh, I haven't heard of them, are they from around here?" and roll her eyes if someone mentions how a band has been covered in the press or played some festival.

it's like being a snooty locavore of bands

b-but is it even possible to be a tireless booster of your local scene AND a snarky jaded hipster?

TOTALLY. I used to hear/say "I hate this effing city" quite a bit when I was a 20-something scenester, which was also the period of my life when I was most focused on going out all the time. There's all this drama that you love to complain about. There's also the thought that "I am better than this city cos in my mind I already live in NYC/Portland/Brazil/etc." I think the self-hatred thing is kind of compounded the more you are involved in the local scene.

Forget the local scene, get on the tattoo and piercing game.

Yes it's so great to finally live in an era where tattoos are considered cool.

nah they're about as cool as owning t-shirts, everyone owns a t-shirt

Do women often come up to you and say "Wow where'd you get that t-shirt?"

yes

then I direct them to the affliction website

The anti-hipster attitude "gets" counterculture but just thinks it's lame, in a totally knowing way of course

This pretty much sums up my view of hipsters, yes.

about as often as people mention tattoos in the places I go, which are full of tattooed people

well, I don't wear that many t-shirts these days, but back in the day

also the answer was lol threadless half the time, oh you mid 2000s

The anti-hipster attitude "gets" counterculture but just thinks it's lame, in a totally knowing way of course

Oddly enough, hipsters lovingly embrace counterculture.

I don't really understand what counts as "counterculture" these days.

That depends what you mean by counterculture

and what it would be an ostensible "counter" to

xp

Something marketed outside the white male hetero demographic?

so 50 Shades of Grey then

Tyler Perry

Oprah

Pocky for Girls

Ten years ago my crust punk friend got a tattoo of Oprah on her belly.

haha that jacobin article, unsurprisingly, again protests too much.

it reminds me exactly of the argument they had with the baffler all anxious b/c it said something about grad students and theory.

its a pretty spectacular historical naiveté w/r/t the notion that the sort of things playing out might be related to experiences from the past in useful ways.

I wish that article was about a real resistance movement and its mediatic portrayal, instead of the usual 'aw man stop talking about the hipsters' which is really the snake biting its own tail afaic.

i think they are right that "hipsters" are a smokescreen that people use in order to avoid talking about actual economic and cultural realities relating to the increasing stratification of wealth in america.

you should keep thinking

i talked to a hipster at the record store yesterday. he had a striped shirt (like a frenchman!) and told me the new kurt vile record is good.

i think hipsters are just basically french

all hipsters aren't french but all french people are hipsters iirc

http://www.parisbao.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/handsome-french-man.jpg

i think they are right that "hipsters" are a smokescreen that people use in order to avoid talking about actual economic and cultural realities relating to the increasing stratification of wealth in america.

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yeah and also I think they are correct that at least when the professional class talks about hipsters they are masking anxiety about people living their lives in a different way. Obviously this is only one of many groups of people who uses the word "hipster" in many different ways, but I think the article is right on that point.

a shocking number of people who can afford 2k a month brooklyn apartments and cool glasses are actually in the professional class

okay, when squares sneer at hipsters, they're expressing anxiety about difference

when hipsters sneer at hipsters, they're just being hipsters

expressing anxiety about sameness, w/e

they put salmon in the fish tacos, hank! SAL-MON!

xp aren't we back to sneering at gentrifying yuppies again? i feel like sneering at hipsters is more a thing to do during an economic downturn

but... the gentrifying yuppies are hipsters this time around.

anti-hipsters = yuppies = hipsters = anti-hipsters

xposts I asked a french guy why was it that I didn't see any hipsters in Paris and he replied that they don't have hipsters, they have bobos (bourgeois boheme) and that *they existed since way longer*.

my username is an anagram for Hipsteer

i mean its not anxiety abou difference. its projection and jealousy and desire. i mean when i see a couple of kids and guess he's fucking her and she's taking pills or wearing a diaphragm, i know this is paradise. everyone old has dreamed all their lives -- bonds and gestures pushed to one side like an outdated combine harvester, and everyone young going down the long slide.

is nonreproductive sexual intercourse a hipster class trait

is youth/being a 'kid' a hipster class trait

can u have a family and still be a hipster

what if it's an "ironic family"