that pirate radio show pilot i linked to above has all the signs of being a truly great cult bbc comedy, cf 15 storeys
― NI, Thursday, 9 May 2013 16:39 (thirteen years ago)
Are there any good comedians in the UK?
do I need to say Kitson again?
― charli.xlsx (sic), Thursday, 9 May 2013 20:52 (thirteen years ago)
Lee, Roberts/Kamil, Jon Richardson, Wil Hodgson, Nat Luursema, Stephen Carlin, Shappi Khorsandi, Hils Barker
Celia Pacquola / Sarah Bennetto / Bec Hill / Steve Hughes :)
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 9 May 2013 21:08 (thirteen years ago)
pure distilled example of lad culture gone old and bitter and angrier and shoutier.
I totally get not liking Helm, but it's 100% a character, FWIW.
Kitson, for sure. Tim Key is still great. Daniel Simonsen. Claudia O'Doherty. Jamie Demetriou. Sam Fletcher. But none of those people are "stand ups," in the sense that they'll have Live from the Apollo DVDs or whatever. But they're all a lot of fun and do some unique stuff.
― She Got the Shakes, Thursday, 9 May 2013 21:42 (thirteen years ago)
Shappi Khorsandi? Really? She seems dreadful.
― ailsa, Thursday, 9 May 2013 22:38 (thirteen years ago)
How so? She's been really funny each time I've seen her.
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 9 May 2013 22:53 (thirteen years ago)
I must watch her on the wrong stuff (panel shows, mostly, where she is really boring)
― ailsa, Thursday, 9 May 2013 22:57 (thirteen years ago)
Oh okay, I don't really watch any panel shows (and am kind of unwilling to extend a comedian's job to "must be funny on panel shows")
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 10 May 2013 05:21 (thirteen years ago)
Yeah I remain to be convinced
― Bees Against Racism (Tom D.), Friday, 10 May 2013 09:32 (thirteen years ago)
are you only watching panel shows?
― charli.xlsx (sic), Friday, 10 May 2013 09:43 (thirteen years ago)
No I watch other TV programmes too sometimes. Haven't seen her do stand up tho, true but then I don't like stand up as a rule.
― Bees Against Racism (Tom D.), Friday, 10 May 2013 09:47 (thirteen years ago)
ah I thought you were referring to your more general question
― charli.xlsx (sic), Friday, 10 May 2013 09:51 (thirteen years ago)
Saw her (SC) do stand-up a while back, she was awful. Maybe she's stepped up in the last couple of years.
― food and boardgames and minimal techno (NotEnough), Friday, 10 May 2013 12:03 (thirteen years ago)
did you know that she is a woman, and also divorced, and also iranian.
― the Shearer of simulated snowsex etc. (Dwight Yorke), Friday, 10 May 2013 15:11 (thirteen years ago)
yeah i get that, but to choose that as your #1 character? almost as vile as lee nelson
― NI, Friday, 10 May 2013 15:27 (thirteen years ago)
rik mayall playing greg davies's father is the best thing i have read all year
― the Quim of Bendigo (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 29 May 2013 02:11 (thirteen years ago)
It's the most obvious casting thing in the world, isn't it? I am delighted that someone is making it happen. Greg Davies is terribly unfunny though, almost painfully so.
― ailsa, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 10:48 (thirteen years ago)
Indeed, I'm almost embarrassed for him when I see him but you should never feel embarrassed for a comedian
― Bees Against Racism (Tom D.), Wednesday, 29 May 2013 10:51 (thirteen years ago)
oh yeah, it'll be terrible, but seeing them together will be like when steve punt played eric idle
― the Quim of Bendigo (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 29 May 2013 11:30 (thirteen years ago)
never seen him be himself, or anything else, but whoever cast him in The Inbetweeners deserves a medal
― ¬╡▫ ▫╞⌠ (sic), Wednesday, 29 May 2013 12:05 (thirteen years ago)
caitlin moran and sister of caitlin moran have written a sitcom pilot and... i dunno, something about it makes me feel really uneasy. the basis of what she's aiming at is sound and kinda necessary but it all smells a bit rose-tinted and condescending, self-congratulatory and not all that interesting or funny unless you're a moran
definitely interested in watching though, if it sidesteps those concerns there's a good chance it could be great, but equally strong chance it'll be a ben eltony shitstorm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/media-blog/2013/may/29/caitlin-moran-raised-by-wolves-sitcom
― NI, Thursday, 13 June 2013 15:27 (thirteen years ago)
Telly never has any smart, amusing intellectuals living on a council estate
Okay, interesting, go on...
Germaine, Aretha, Yoko, Mariah, Wyatt and baby Cher
http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/gospeldrivenchurch/files/2013/02/get-a-brain-morans.jpg
― bizarro gazzara, Thursday, 13 June 2013 15:31 (thirteen years ago)
Modest lot, the Morans
― Bees Against Racism (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 June 2013 15:39 (thirteen years ago)
rose-tinted and condescending, self-congratulatory and not all that interesting or funny
That's oor Caitlin.
― oppet, Thursday, 13 June 2013 15:53 (thirteen years ago)
"Telly never has any smart, amusing intellectuals living on a council estate"
yeah this stuck out a bit, can think of a fair few from pre90s tv but have there been many lately? (serious qu, don't watch much terrestial tv)
― NI, Thursday, 13 June 2013 15:55 (thirteen years ago)
Caitlin Moran is pretty funny imo
― sjuttiosju_u (wins), Thursday, 13 June 2013 15:56 (thirteen years ago)
has she ever written fiction/comedy for tv/radio before? only know her from naked city and the limmy twitter beef which was hilarious for different reasons
― NI, Thursday, 13 June 2013 16:12 (thirteen years ago)
Think council estates has changed quite a bit since Caitlin Moran lived on one
― Bees Against Racism (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 June 2013 16:13 (thirteen years ago)
But if she's set it in the 80s, fair enough
― Bees Against Racism (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 June 2013 16:15 (thirteen years ago)
in what ways?
― NI, Thursday, 13 June 2013 16:20 (thirteen years ago)
How many people live in council houses now as opposed to the 70s and 80s?
― Bees Against Racism (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 June 2013 16:27 (thirteen years ago)
When I was at school I don't think I knew anyone who didn't live in a council house
― Bees Against Racism (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 June 2013 16:28 (thirteen years ago)
there was always one posh git that had a "boat hoose"
― no man is an islam (onimo), Thursday, 13 June 2013 16:49 (thirteen years ago)
(boat as in bought, if that wasn't clear)
Eh not sure that means the estates themselves have changed that much, except inasmuch as everything has changed since the 70s
― sjuttiosju_u (wins), Thursday, 13 June 2013 16:54 (thirteen years ago)
Well the "aspirational working class" are far less likely to be living on them
― Bees Against Racism (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 June 2013 16:56 (thirteen years ago)
I grew up on a council estate in the 90s /smartfunnyintellectual
― sjuttiosju_u (wins), Thursday, 13 June 2013 17:09 (thirteen years ago)
so you'd say modern council estates more disaffected & impoverished than 80s? makes sense, i guess
― NI, Thursday, 13 June 2013 22:27 (thirteen years ago)
what are the stats btw?
― NI, Thursday, 13 June 2013 22:28 (thirteen years ago)
http://i48.tinypic.com/2nbdo28.gif
― Pheeel, Thursday, 13 June 2013 23:35 (thirteen years ago)
Incisive!
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 13 June 2013 23:36 (thirteen years ago)
Ws back then but not now tbh. Nowhere nr as incisive.
― So: The Answers (or something), Thursday, 13 June 2013 23:52 (thirteen years ago)
I'm joking of course.
― So: The Answers (or something), Thursday, 13 June 2013 23:57 (thirteen years ago)
boat as in bought, if that wasn't clear)
Love the idea of everyone hating thon cunt wi' the fuckin' forty foot yacht tho
― sktsh, Friday, 14 June 2013 13:47 (thirteen years ago)
If its anything like her columns for The Times I'm all for this...otoh she reviews TV for much of the time...
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 14 June 2013 19:57 (thirteen years ago)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2013/jun/30/tv-commissioning-sitcoms
― my eventual wife (stevie), Monday, 1 July 2013 12:44 (twelve years ago)
caitlin moran sitcom description is sub dog latin stuff
― conrad, Monday, 1 July 2013 14:36 (twelve years ago)
response from lineham, bain et al: http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2013/jul/01/tv-commissioning-graham-linehan-james-corden
they've obv got a vested interest in sucking up to the tv exec world but i suspect the truth lies between the two (orig idea not all that good + tv exec clueless how to fix = shiter)
― NI, Tuesday, 2 July 2013 19:11 (twelve years ago)
dude should've remembered the old adage, if it's on BBC3 it's going to be fucking shit
― for many people a really special folder makes a huge difference (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 2 July 2013 19:52 (twelve years ago)
tru nuf. only thing i can think of offhand as being bbc3 and any cop is: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p00v5jj0/Comedy_Feeds_2012_People_Just_Do_Nothing/
― NI, Tuesday, 2 July 2013 20:13 (twelve years ago)