Noah Baumbach and Greta Gerwig's "Frances Ha"

I think you mean 'escapees from flyover country'

greenberg was so good, so perfect, so greenberg

I like Baumbach's stuff but leaving yr wife for a younger woman just after she gave birth to your baby is nagl

interesting artist is an asshole film at 11

maybe baumbach's a bit of a greenberg, the movie makes even more sense to me now

greenberg was kind of ok but damn it had such a myopic view of la

good.

hungry4whites

What L.A. movie besides The Long Goodbye doesn't?

repo man

Noah Baumbach Greta Gerwig Ben Stiller - Repo Man

My brother and I quote Greenberg the way high schoolers used to quote Anchorman. Favs include "I'm thinking of getting back into drugs" and "I'm just trying to do nothing for a while." This movie is a cult classic by now, no? I liked the interview with Greta Gerwig fwiw. Also I cant really blame anyone for falling for New Chloe Sevigny... that seems like a personal matter.

I like Baumbach's stuff but leaving yr wife for a younger woman just after she gave birth to your baby is nagl

This is probably my most-anticipated film of 2013.

The Squid and the Whale was way better than Greenberg, which was itself really good, so I'm looking forward to this, Baumbach douchiness notwithstanding.

i think the baumbach divorce thing looks bad from the outside, but we don't know what was actually going on in their marriage so i am going to withhold judgement.

I'm waiting for the kid to grow up and make a movie about it. Due in 2040 or so?

lol @ this, fuck baumbach

"Soon after shooting wrapped[on Greenberg], the director emailed Gerwig, asking her what she thought was going on in the hearts and minds of people her age"

lololol

More like in the pants amirite.

The trailer is the worst kind of nineties dr(lol)oll indie romcom.

i wish that line worked if you weren't old, and a fancy movie director

it does look super 90s. im cool with that

Yeah I'm looking foward seeing this. Love GeeGee.

way better than the G.G. we had in the 90s

Ha. Were you around back then, Treeship?

lol no. i'm 24. i know of g.g. allin from the todd philips documentary.

Well, at least thanks to this thread I now know who actually watches movies like this for pleasure—I saw the trailer and it made me want to track down everyone involved and set them on fire one at a time.

it shows girls dancing to express their love of life

誤訳侮辱, you should try Girls.

誤訳侮辱, what are your thoughts on Woody Allen?

alf didnt u love damsels in distress

誤訳侮辱, you should try Girls.

Does it have car chases, gunfire, explosions, and people getting punched in the face? Because those are the common factors of the TV shows I watch.

誤訳侮辱, what are your thoughts on Woody Allen?

I've only seen three of his movies (Annie Hall, Sleeper and Love and Death) and I hated all three. They had a disturbing lack of car chases, gunfire, explosions etc.

I do like Whit Stillman's movies, though...

in love and death, did you at least like woody's dance with Death during the end credits?

actually, that's an irrelevant point. nothing in girls or baumbach's films are like that. frances ha is probably not for you.

the freeze frame of Garwig's face in the first post is the most frightening image I've seen all year -- maybe since all these straight boys thought what's her name in 50 Days of Summer was cute.

why do you think indie dreamgirls are so terrible? i understand the feminist complaint that often, in films like 500 days, they are just a vehicle for the male characters to achieve self-awareness/happiness/something, but that doesn't seem to be the deal with this movie as gerwig is the main character. just curious. people h8 zooey and i never really understood why, even though i am not a fan of she and him.

Indie dreamgirls are feminized versions of their male indie writer-directors. Julie Delpy of the Before series is the most successfully realized, I think: her insecurities are her own.

Aren't most female characters feminized versions of their writer-directors? I know I haven't been able to escape that in my short films.
I don't think it is a trend exclusive to indie girls. In this case, Baumbach is just very specific with his lines so there is no room for actresses like GG to breathe.

Julie Delpy of the Before series is the most successfully realized, I think: her insecurities are her own.

She's been a co-writer on the second and third movies.

yep

I think to be fair to Girls here, I do not get the impression from having only watched season 1 of girls that Dunham would write the "girls dancing to show love of life" scene - in fact I kind of picture her doing that mime finger-down-throat thing at it.

doesnt that exact scene happen in girls season 1

yeah you're right
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8_ssvjnNYg

but somehow much less bad

That's the most I've ever seen of Girls and it just proves that people who like Robyn should be shunned.

ur dumb that scene's awesome

love gerwig, ambivalent at best about baumbach (loved greenberg though), new yorker profile was a depressing read though there was the hilarious revelation that baumbach and wes anderson dine w/ bogdanovich and regard him as a mentor and father figure (to the extent of him calling them 'son'), i kept getting the faintest whiff of that horace mann story from it, what a fitting circle jerk.

Bogdo still trying to ingratiate himself into financing

saw this back at TIFF, it's much much better than Greenberg (thankfully)

that wasn't exactly one of my favorite scenes in season 1, but it's not terrible

I liked this movie. Baumbach and Gerwig push whimsy so far out that it's in danger of just drifting away yet it never does. Some of the best dialogue I've heard in an American movie too.

frances Ha or MIstress America?

just saw the latter - some really LOL moments at the ex's house in that one.

MA. The ex's house scenes are choreographed like a ballet (Dean Wareham is the only sour note).

yeah otm. baumbachs timing / dialogue / editing have been so strong in these last few

even like throw away lines just ring perfectly to me like when they first arrive at the connecticut house and the guy is like "holy shit those pregnant women are super smart"

YOU PPL BETTER NOT BE TALKIN BOUT MISTRESS AMERICA

whadya mean "YOU PPL"

i loved when the leftover pregnant lady finally acknowledged that they kept offering her alcohol to drink

Noah Baumbach and Greta Gerwig's "Mistress America"

Not sure if I hated Damsels in Distress or just wasn't in the mood for it. I like the film before it and like some of the film after it, so I don't think Noel Baumbach's gone off the Wes Anderson deep end. Megalyn Echikunwoke was incredibly beautiful. Thought for sure I spotted Lauren Ambrose from Six Feet Under in a classroom scene, but she's not listed in the credits, so I guess not. Still haven't seen Mistress America.

? damsels in distress is a whit stillman movie

Um, oops...the whole time I'm thinking, "This is the same guy that made The Squid & the Whale." And I almost made mention of the Metropolitan allusions.

I don't think it changes my reaction to the film, although it does help explain a lot.

#NotAllGerwigsAreBaumbachs

Although to be fair this thread at times served as a "Rolling Greta Gerwig" one.

Interesting experiment, though...That's the first time I've ever sat through an entire film thinking it was someone other than the actual director. And of course it would have altered my reaction if I'd remembered it was Stillman. I don't know that I would have liked it any more, but I certainly would have had an easier time getting my head around it.

dunno why I've never met a Benji

I just watched this for the first time. I hated it. Maybe it's already aged poorly? I am now hate reading glowing reviews of this when it came out.

what does aging poorly mean?

My issues with the movie seem to have already been mentioned in this thread (I just read through it). GG is charming but the character is unsubstantial and basically a really pleasant idiot at 27. I feel like I used to enjoy movies like this more. I liked the first couple of seasons of Girls, I still like Kicking and Screaming. Now it just all invokes Kendall Jenner giving the police a pepsi in the middle of a protest. I did enjoy the Paris scenes (this should've just been a longform commercial for Miu Miu or something) and Dean and Britta. I am also remembering a conversation I had with a well known music critic a long time ago when the show Felicity was still on air. I thought the show would've totally been his jam but he hated it because he had to see boring, overprivileged white NYU students every day so why would he want to also suffer through watching it on tv.

I am now talking about this movie with A friend who is a huge Greta Gerwig fan. "So, I know how much you hate Fleabag, I was watching Frances Ha and I finally understood why you hate Fleabag so much." Her "You know I hated Frances Ha, right? With the heat of a thousand white hot suns!"

saw this for the first time last night and found it very affecting. was really mesmerized by gerwig and her awkward sincerity, the way she speaks to strangers as if they’ve been friends for years, her love for dancing even though she’s awful at it, that aimless trip to paris, how deeply she longs to be loved while simultaneously lacking any real interest in romance

I like it more with each re-viewing. I always forget Dean Wareham's in it.

watched this again last night. what a perfect little movie — the goodness of frances is almost too much to bear

I'm still crushing on her roommate.

Loved this movie

On Netflix again! Still love it.

annual rewatch tonight. I just adore everyone in this movie so much

since there is no dedicated claudia weill thread, I’ll use this one to wholeheartedly recommend GIRLFRIENDS (1978), in many ways a blueprint for FRANCES HA, and mumblecore in general. would be shocked if it wasn’t a favorite of gerwig’s

Thanks for the revive. I showed FH last week to students -- they adored it.

Lena Dunham shouted out Girlfriends and its influence on her in this Criterion Closet video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqpRsEF6Gn8

Not everybody saw Girlfriends, but everyone who did in the 2000s made an indie film.

I hadn't heard of Girlfriends until it was on the Criterion Channel a couple of years ago, but it went away before I could watch it. Def seems like something I'd like.

since there is no dedicated claudia weill thread, I’ll use this one to wholeheartedly recommend GIRLFRIENDS (1978)

I also just watched Girlfriends.... It was charming and enjoyable - and it was great to see 1970s New York - but I didn't find it a classic.