discus has already been thrown :(
― Just got offed, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 18:55 (seventeen years ago) link
lol
all i know is my blood's boiling and there's a headache on the horizon, and it's JUST A FUCKING ANECDOTE
― Surmounter, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 18:56 (seventeen years ago) link
I THINK YOUR CAPS LOCK IS ON.
― KANTLIPS, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 18:58 (seventeen years ago) link
no that was the shift key. i never really use the caps lock.
― Surmounter, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 18:59 (seventeen years ago) link
This sounds like we need a poll, but ban tuomas first ok?
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 19:06 (seventeen years ago) link
catsup dude i'm sorry i called you pretentious, that was mean. i hope you don't mind me not including all your p's. maybe we can be friends one day! =P
― Surmounter, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 19:08 (seventeen years ago) link
can you feel the love tonight
― Just got offed, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 19:09 (seventeen years ago) link
well u know i think after a certain amount of bitchiness it just feels like, where is this going? hell? i'd rather not
― Surmounter, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 19:15 (seventeen years ago) link
can't believe thread's so long already. way to go HOOS!!!!
haha
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 19:18 (seventeen years ago) link
I want a badge lanyard embroidered with BIG HOOS AKA THE STEENDRIVER
― TOMBOT, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 19:19 (seventeen years ago) link
i know it really is kindof catchy, though long
― Surmounter, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 19:20 (seventeen years ago) link
dude yr still wrong
xpost
― Eppy, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 19:25 (seventeen years ago) link
Are you lot conversing in machine code?
― Mark G, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 19:28 (seventeen years ago) link
mista hoobasteena, mista bob hoobasteena
― forksclovetofu, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 19:37 (seventeen years ago) link
i gets much hoos mail and i always resteen
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 19:39 (seventeen years ago) link
i'll fuckin, i'll fuckin sew your HOOS closed and keep steenin you and steenin you
― ghost rider, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 19:45 (seventeen years ago) link
HAHAHAHA, thread is WON, lock now plz
― Just got offed, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 19:47 (seventeen years ago) link
stockholm syndrome, classic or dud?
― dell, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 19:48 (seventeen years ago) link
b) beyond that, hate crime laws are unnecessary bcz judges & juries already have all the tools they need -- including intelligence & insight -- to determine whether an assault or vandalism or harrassment or murder has that extra tasty frisson of racism or homophobia, and punish it accordingly.
I disagree with this not for GFF's reasons, but just because it's patently false: judges and juries can't mete out extra punishment based on "that extra tasty frisson" unless it's stipulated in the law that they can, that this particular frisson is a legitimate aggravating factor. (If the maximum sentence for a crime is 5 years, judges don't usually have the discretion to hand down 10 based on any outside factor that's not put in their purview by the legislature!)
Posting way, way back to Tracer -- the reason I'm talking about these things in terms of prosecutorial misuse is that the kinds of situations you've outlined here aren't just fuzzy applications, they are (to my mind) completely outside the actual letter of the laws, which would seem to require that identity be the primary motivation for the action: obviously I don't disagree with you in the least that inferring this from any crime in which a racial epithet is uttered is completely fucked up, and such misuse could well outweigh any benefits the laws are designed to have.
― nabisco, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 19:56 (seventeen years ago) link
open up your door, i walk straight in the HOOS put your man down and put my steen in his mouth
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 20:00 (seventeen years ago) link
This thread is like nabisco and Tracer trying to have a conversation on opposite sides of a room filled with autistic people on horse tranquilizers.
― Lostandfound, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 20:45 (seventeen years ago) link
sounds better than some parties i've been to
― gff, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 20:59 (seventeen years ago) link
throw in a buffet and i'd crash it for real
― gff, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 21:00 (seventeen years ago) link
Whose justification do you mean?
It is my lack of legal knowledge justification. I find it pretty effective though! I mean it may be pretty obivious but I think most the knee-jerk against hate-crime legislations can be defused if you get people to sign on for "the system meant to protect us all equally doesn't do so."
― bnw, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 21:07 (seventeen years ago) link
http://www.usatoday.com/life/gallery/animal-actors/mr-ed.jpg "Did somebody say horse tranquilizers?"
― remy bean, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 21:09 (seventeen years ago) link
YOU MAY NOW CONSIDER ME THE HOOSALYPTIC ONE AFTER THIS STEEN THERE IS NONE
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 23:21 (seventeen years ago) link
We need to be able to change screen names again.
― Rock Hardy, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 23:24 (seventeen years ago) link
<I>judges don't usually have the discretion to hand down 10 based on any outside factor that's not put in their purview by the legislature</I>
What I'm about to say couldn't be any more off topic, but in light of some recent decisions by the U.S. Supreme Court, there is some question whether a judge is permitted to increase a sentence for a crime based upon the bias motivation for that crime, unless the motivation was first submitted to the jury and the jury made a finding on that bias motivation.
― J, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 23:48 (seventeen years ago) link
-- gff, Tuesday, May 29, 2007 9:00 PM
lol subtle
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 00:04 (seventeen years ago) link
I LIKE MY HOOS STEEN-ER PINK
― max, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 00:21 (seventeen years ago) link
i wish one of my cats would eat this thread
― PappaWheelie V, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 00:29 (seventeen years ago) link
I mean it may be pretty obivious but I think most the knee-jerk against hate-crime legislations can be defused if you get people to sign on for "the system meant to protect us all equally doesn't do so."
Mostly that just makes me wonder who's going to protect the homophobe's right to be a homophobe. Which, you know, seems like an important thing to protect.
― Casuistry, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 00:39 (seventeen years ago) link
hoosteen = "cute" variation on "Justin," right?
― g®▲đұ, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 00:58 (seventeen years ago) link
It's the Spanish pronounciation (and the name my mother raised me with, though my dad preferred Justin).
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 01:03 (seventeen years ago) link
HOOS = that dude
― Wrinklepaws, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 01:11 (seventeen years ago) link
she didnt spell it that way though, did she?
― g®▲đұ, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 01:11 (seventeen years ago) link
Quien es esa niña, Hoos that steen? Señorita mas fina, Hoos that steen?
― forksclovetofu, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 01:15 (seventeen years ago) link
phonetic
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 01:20 (seventeen years ago) link
that was not a fun argument.
-- BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 27 May 2007 02:17 (3 days ago) Link
― Just got offed, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 08:30 (seventeen years ago) link
http://www.brandonbird.com/paintings/king_of_cage.jpg "M'am, we reserve the right to refuse service to anyone. My bartender, myself, and my general manager will not tolerate your hate speech on our property. We have not and will not charge you a cent and you're free to take your business elsewhere. I'd rather not call the police, but if you insist on continuing to disturb our guests I will. Please leave."
― gr8080, Thursday, 26 July 2007 09:15 (seventeen years ago) link
o_O
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 26 July 2007 23:17 (seventeen years ago) link
"Salt'n'pepa and Hoosy D up in the limosteen."
-- jim, Tuesday, May 29, 2007 5:38 PM
favorite ever
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 20 August 2007 04:28 (seventeen years ago) link
you suck.
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Monday, 20 August 2007 05:05 (seventeen years ago) link
a-
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 20 August 2007 21:33 (seventeen years ago) link
What hotel do you work at, HOOS?
― libcrypt, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 05:30 (sixteen years ago) link
"M'am, we reserve the right to refuse service to anyone. My bartender, myself, and my general manager will not tolerate your hate speech on our property. We have not and will not charge you a cent and you're free to take your business elsewhere. I'd rather not call the police, but if you insist on continuing to disturb our guests I will. Please leave."
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 27 February 2008 07:42 (sixteen years ago) link
^underrated ilx meme
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 27 February 2008 07:43 (sixteen years ago) link
I was going to stay at the Austin Omni but they upped the daily rate by $150 so now I am at Sheraton.
― libcrypt, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 17:57 (sixteen years ago) link
I work at the Doubletree Club on I-35 & MLK. You're at the Sheraton downtown I guess? What brings you to town?
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 21:29 (sixteen years ago) link