lol Bill Magill and I read Rick Reilly
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 27 September 2007 18:33 (sixteen years ago) link
and yeah I am beginning to get the idea this happens a LOT A LOT A LOT more than we think it does
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 27 September 2007 18:35 (sixteen years ago) link
*develops sudden suspicions of tombot*
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 27 September 2007 18:36 (sixteen years ago) link
there are a lot of pathological liars out there, some small-scale, some big scale. i wonder how many people claim to have been in dealey plaza? i think jim garrison based his case on testimony from people who were actually sleeping off a hangover in fort worth.
― omar little, Thursday, 27 September 2007 18:39 (sixteen years ago) link
here's the story about the serial Pittsburgh Steeler impersonator
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2860426
He's pretended to be like three different players on the team. On the surface it seems like a straight-up con but why would you keep doing it over and over after being arrested? CRAAZY
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 27 September 2007 18:41 (sixteen years ago) link
Ishmael wasn't even ON the Pequod.
― rogermexico., Thursday, 27 September 2007 18:41 (sixteen years ago) link
did you hear about that guy who impersonated a world-class impersonator, he made it into the Guinness Book of World Records
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 27 September 2007 18:44 (sixteen years ago) link
"lol Bill Magill and I read Rick Reilly"
That's where I got it from. I don't get the impression that guy pocketed a great deal from it either. I think he just got swept up in it. The real ex-player didn't seem to be too upset about it.
― Bill Magill, Thursday, 27 September 2007 18:47 (sixteen years ago) link
cf every staff meeting at every job ever
― gff, Thursday, 27 September 2007 18:48 (sixteen years ago) link
reminds me of an article i read (in Jane magazine?) about a girl who was clearing her conscience after having lied back in college about being a rape victim and then continuing to lie about it for years. there it was a case of her blurting it out when fighting with her boyfriend on the phone in a misguided ploy for immediate sympathy and attention - like a trump card. but then some friend overheard her and the whole thing spiralled out of control, so it got harder and harder to admit that it was a lie. which makes sense i guess. a person might have this need for attention or validation and small or stupid lies evolve into these unimaginably huge ones just because the person has painted themselves into a corner.
― Kim, Thursday, 27 September 2007 19:01 (sixteen years ago) link
uhhh-yup.
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 27 September 2007 19:11 (sixteen years ago) link
"But there's an extra manipulative trick here, though -- she's relying on people failing to question her story given the horrific nature of the circumstances. She's taking advantage of the good faith of sympathizers."
That's how propaganda works, and why it's easy for governments to find civilians who will be complicit in its spread. Which is why the "Let's Roll" story, for example -- which is as full of holes as the cheese shop around the corner from me -- has managed to thrive so nicely without critical examination (nutsy conspiracy theorists not counting as critical examination).
― Nubbelverbrennung, Thursday, 27 September 2007 19:30 (sixteen years ago) link
I never believed that Flight 93/Let's Roll malarkey for a minute
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 27 September 2007 19:30 (sixteen years ago) link
Bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
― Alex in NYC, Thursday, 27 September 2007 19:43 (sixteen years ago) link
Larry Appleton made huge outrageous lies that he almost talked himself into believing, and every time the whole thing got sorted out in 22 minutes.
― Abbott, Thursday, 27 September 2007 20:06 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1696977/posts HAHA
― Heave Ho, Thursday, 27 September 2007 20:15 (sixteen years ago) link
That is the worst headline ever. As Christian Bale sang in Newsies, "If I hate the headline, I'll make up a headline."
― Abbott, Thursday, 27 September 2007 20:19 (sixteen years ago) link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Red_Badge_of_Courage
― Heave Ho, Thursday, 27 September 2007 20:19 (sixteen years ago) link
Reminds me of the 18 year old girl who attended Stanford, living in the dorms, for 8 months without being a student there.
Azia Kim
― nickn, Thursday, 27 September 2007 21:30 (sixteen years ago) link
-- Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, September 27, 2007 11:44 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Link
that was me.
― max, Thursday, 27 September 2007 21:39 (sixteen years ago) link
that's an amazxing shakey impression, i was totally taken in
― gabbneb, Thursday, 27 September 2007 21:40 (sixteen years ago) link
no rachel ray ref no credibility
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 27 September 2007 21:43 (sixteen years ago) link
Remember when there were like 3 Alex in NYCs and eight or nine Dr Morbiuses running around?
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 27 September 2007 21:46 (sixteen years ago) link
HOW DID THEY FOOL SO MANY PEOPLE
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 27 September 2007 21:47 (sixteen years ago) link
There was that news story from last year about the bloke who told everyone he wrote Itsy Bitsy Teeny Weeny Yellow Polka Dot Bikini, it went pretty well until he died and the man who really wrote it had his obituary printed in the papars
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/28/arts/music/28bikini.html?ex=1317096000&en=c049ae10c803ce44&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss
― V, Thursday, 27 September 2007 22:09 (sixteen years ago) link
But there was an extra manipulative trick there, though -- he was relying on people failing to question his story given the horrific nature of the circumstances. He was taking advantage of the good faith of sympathizers.
― omar little, Thursday, 27 September 2007 22:14 (sixteen years ago) link
I am just hell of gullible, so when I encounter compulsive liars I am enchanted for a day or two and then just irritated–they're only entertaining for so long. Plus they infringe on the legitimacy of my TRUE true-life tales which are occasionally improbable.
― Abbott, Thursday, 27 September 2007 22:16 (sixteen years ago) link
Here's the UK vers. of this.
― Raw Patrick, Thursday, 27 September 2007 22:35 (sixteen years ago) link
Very weird - there's a poem by Ai (that's the poet's full pen name), a long narrative poem, in which this exact story takes place, only it's a woman who claims she is looking for a sister. It's in a book called "Dread."
― J0hn D., Thursday, 27 September 2007 22:40 (sixteen years ago) link
An Amazing Woman & Her Smile (Tissue Alert!
― Curt1s Stephens, Thursday, 27 September 2007 22:41 (sixteen years ago) link
there's a whole bunch of literary hoaxes akin to this as well
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 27 September 2007 22:42 (sixteen years ago) link
I can't find the article, but there's a similar 9/11 story about a NYC man who's wife disappeared on 9/11, even though she didn't have a reason to be at the WTC. He was trying to claim a share of the payout $$$$.
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 28 September 2007 00:26 (sixteen years ago) link
Con men are boring.
― El Tomboto, Friday, 28 September 2007 00:48 (sixteen years ago) link
JT Leroy
― El Tomboto, Friday, 28 September 2007 00:50 (sixteen years ago) link
Re-reading some of the Laura Albert courtroom testimony drama you start to wander if any of that stuff is true either, like, this is BIG TIME munchausen behavior
― El Tomboto, Friday, 28 September 2007 00:54 (sixteen years ago) link
a lot of deluded egoism with that sort of type as well, like they know some big secret to life via "crazy experiences" that you will just never get because you weren't there, man. you see that a lot with people who claim to have been abducted by aliens as well.
― omar little, Friday, 28 September 2007 01:03 (sixteen years ago) link
well, I think like Kim said upthread, maybe these are all borne out of a need to just one-up somebody, like you're just sick and tired of having this boring life you imagine nobody cares about, so you just flip and make something up to prove you've got some juice too, how do you like me now. Then you have to stick to your guns because how pathetic is that, to make up that you survived some ghetto madness when you were only 11 years old?
I bet a lot of these people are also some of the first ones to call bullshit on others whenever they're around somebody who has a competing traumatic adventure to recount. "I bet."
― El Tomboto, Friday, 28 September 2007 01:13 (sixteen years ago) link
Does no one remember the former ILX regular who, after his girlfriend turned up alive in NYC a few days post 9/11, ended up entirely making up the story of the deaths of his two friends in the WTC, getting time off work to "grieve" for them, even going so far as to throw "benefit gigs" in London in their honour?
That's all I could think of this morning when I read the story.
Yeah, this stuff is unfortunately a lot more common than is comfortable.
― Klaus M. Flanger, Friday, 28 September 2007 15:49 (sixteen years ago) link
^^^ whoa really?
― gff, Friday, 28 September 2007 15:52 (sixteen years ago) link
Who the hell was that? I was on here in 2001 and I don't remember that!
― Dr.C, Friday, 28 September 2007 15:59 (sixteen years ago) link
Tawana Brawley
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 28 September 2007 16:08 (sixteen years ago) link
Oh I do vaguely recall that....
― Laurel, Friday, 28 September 2007 16:16 (sixteen years ago) link
what tania head did is a lot like what most of the country did just more so
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― jhøshea, Friday, 28 September 2007 16:17 (sixteen years ago) link
Don't famous historical traumas spawn these type of lies? I remember something about how in around 1900 there were far more people claiming to be veterans of Gettysburg than had actually fought there.
9/11 is just the latest trauma--and it's a bit easier to expose BS nowadays. Still, you have Rudy attempting to claim he spent as much time at Ground Zero as the rescue workers, etc.
― mulla atari, Friday, 28 September 2007 16:25 (sixteen years ago) link
http://i23.tinypic.com/igzyth.jpg
― jhøshea, Friday, 28 September 2007 16:47 (sixteen years ago) link
Ms. Head, who sometimes uses the first name Alicia Ms. Head, who sometimes uses the first name Alicia Ms. Head, who sometimes uses the first name Alicia Ms. Head, who sometimes uses the first name Alicia Ms. Head, who sometimes uses the first name Alicia Ms. Head, who sometimes uses the first name Alicia Ms. Head, who sometimes uses the first name Alicia Ms. Head, who sometimes uses the first name Alicia Ms. Head, who sometimes uses the first name Alicia Ms. Head, who sometimes uses the first name Alicia Ms. Head, who sometimes uses the first name Alicia Ms. Head, who sometimes uses the first name Alicia Ms. Head, who sometimes uses the first name Alicia
― tom, Friday, 28 September 2007 17:21 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.wondermark.com/comics/340.gif
― nabisco, Friday, 28 September 2007 17:46 (sixteen years ago) link
He was trying to claim a share of the payout $$$$.
that's what's interesting about this one, as far as anyone can tell she didn't get any money out of it except for charity. seemingly was more for attention / sympathy / give aimless life a purpose
since we're collecting all these hoaxers now, there was also this presidential photographer who claimed to have taken the famous JFK Jr. shot and a lot of other stuff .... when his obit ran a couple of weeks ago, a bunch of retired press-pool photographers saw their work being credited to someone else
Known For Famous Photos, Not All of Them His http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/15/nyregion/15photographer.html
― dmr, Friday, 28 September 2007 17:52 (sixteen years ago) link
-- Klaus M. Flanger, Friday, September 28, 2007 3:49 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Link
paul strange, kate st clares ex
― and what, Friday, 28 September 2007 18:26 (sixteen years ago) link
wow that is mental. and yeah it must be really common!
― gff, Friday, 28 September 2007 18:54 (sixteen years ago) link
I would have chalked that whole story up to being... well, a story (as the guy is a writer ffs!) but then theres that youtube video....
― Trayce, Friday, 12 October 2007 01:50 (sixteen years ago) link
where was the youtube video Trayce?
― J0hn D., Friday, 12 October 2007 02:29 (sixteen years ago) link
http://youtube.com/watch?v=XmPDGZPnYl0
(as per post on the noizeboard)
― Trayce, Friday, 12 October 2007 02:31 (sixteen years ago) link
I guess it doesnt do much to add to the story but it certainly fits with what the guy described.
― Trayce, Friday, 12 October 2007 02:32 (sixteen years ago) link
and pictured, on the last page of the article
― jeff, Friday, 12 October 2007 03:24 (sixteen years ago) link
Harlan Ellison fans are a CREEEEEEEEEEPY bunch.
― Nubbelverbrennung, Friday, 12 October 2007 08:10 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.wired.com/medtech/health/news/2001/06/44245
― El Tomboto, Friday, 12 October 2007 10:46 (sixteen years ago) link
in fight club of course this gets played for laughs
― El Tomboto, Friday, 12 October 2007 10:48 (sixteen years ago) link