Having all your money drained from your bank account from using a Bodega ATM = DUD [NYC]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v134/tracerhand/atm.jpg

We slandered BODEGAS

the one on 6th avenue?

(15:18:35) x: ok well, when i went last night, like the middle one was not quite working normally, and i put my card in it before i realised that
(15:18:42) x: i think someone fucked with that one
(15:18:47) x: probably today it's fine or something

lol

The other problem is the the ICs in smartcards are super crap at key generation. You basically have to code the whole mess into the card when you issue it and if anything happens to compromise the key pair then you have to take the card out of service and replace it.

That there would be why the only places you see trying to implement enterprise smartcard infrastructure are huge government agencies. Somebody's got to keep those companies in business. Something you have, something you know: the model isn't any different from traditional 2-factor authentication anyway (except for my laundry situation = 1-factor "e-cash" bullshit!) and the whole "biometric smart card" idea turns to snake oil in implementation.

* Meaning of the mystery dollar disappearance variety, not the "fucker stole my credit card" variety.

No, it just resembles George's wallet on Seinfeld, so everything in it breaks or falls out unnoticed!

Ally, do you have a reference for that? It seems to me that most ATM fraud would come from stolen card + pins!

Stolen card is #1 obv, I mean there's barely any such thing as a pure ATM card anymore so you don't even need people's PIN# to steal shit out of their account. Incl money, just go to a grocery, buy a carton of smokes and ask for $100 back.

btw, (at least here) a lot of generic atms that will charge you that extra fee that your home bank wouldn't, are actually anonymously owned by the bigger banks - so they're kind of double charging their own customers all sneaky like.

I had my bank account fleeced of my entire weekend drinking money life savings (about £200) when I was down in London a few years back. It was proved by science (OK, those wee cameras inside the ATMS) that it wasn't me using the machine after the last transaction I told them I'd made and I still had to pay a £50 excess. Bastarding Clyd3sd4le B4nk.

sigh

2008-12-10 - ABM Withdrawal $160.00
2008-12-10 - ABM Deposit - $1,000.00
2008-12-10 - ABM Withdrawal $200.00

shitty thing is last few purchases made by me were all christmas gifts for kids! way to kick a girl when she's having a nice week, jerks..

though right now I am +$640 which is nice, I wish they'd let me keep it for emotional suffering

ooh, the fakey deposit, that's tricky. sucks :(

Got a weird look from someone when I pulled on the ATM card slot on a gas pump to see if there was a skimmer in there. Explained what I was doing and got an even weirder look.

Have you seen how optimized these things are? http://krebsonsecurity.com/2012/04/skimtacular-all-in-one-atm-skimmer/

so many delightful new experiences this year

Shit. how much?

thats kinna personal

not quite a third of what I recently inherited? (A month ago there wouldn't have been anything worth hacking)

Well, no, I wasn't looking for figures, just trying to understand how much it would hurt.

I assume I'm getting credited for it, or I'm going Full Falling Down.

Another one: http://krebsonsecurity.com/2013/07/dont-get-sucker-pumped/

http://krebsonsecurity.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/gaspumpPADoverlay-600x192.png

Gas pump skimmers are getting craftier. A new scam out of Oklahoma that netted thieves $400,000 before they were caught is a reminder of why it’s usually best to pay with credit versus debit cards when filling up the tank.

The U.S. Attorney’s office in Muskogee, Okla. says two men indicted this month for skimming would rent a vehicle, check into a local hotel and place skimming devices on gas pumps at Murphy’s filling stations located in the parking lots of Wal-Mart retail stores. The fraud devices included a card skimmer and a fake PIN pad overlay designed to capture PINs from customers who paid at the pump with a debit card.

According to their indictment (PDF), defedants Kevin Konstantinov and Elvin Alisuretove would leave the skimming devices in place for between one and two months. Then they’d collect the skimmers and use the stolen data to create counterfeit cards, visiting multiple ATMs throughout the region and withdrawing large amounts of cash. Investigators say some of the card data stolen in the scheme showed up in fraudulent transactions in Eastern Europe and Russia.

As the Oklahoma case shows, gas pump skimmers have moved from analog, clunky things to the level of workmanship and attention to detail that is normally only seen in ATM skimmers. Investigators in Oklahoma told a local news station that the skimmer technology used in this case was way more sophisticated than anything they’ve seen previously.

Increasingly, pump skimmer scammers are turning to bluetooth-enabled devices that connect directly to the pump’s power source. These skimmers can run indefinitely, and allow thieves to retrieve stolen card data wirelessly while waiting in their car at the pump.

A lot of people where I work had their credit/debit card info stolen. At last count I heard it was 200 people.