avant-garde, experimental, surreal film

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Don't forget Maya Dern.

Mary (Mary), Sunday, 6 April 2003 21:09 (twenty-three years ago)

here's some of my favorites who are also part of the avant-garde canon:

resnais mon oncle d'amérique
Luis Bunuel The Phantom of Liberty
debord la société du spectacle
Nagisa Oshima In The Realm Of The Senses
michael snow so is this

Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Sunday, 13 April 2003 10:25 (twenty-three years ago)

I slept through Benjaminta. I vaguely remember men banging with forks.

Erik, Sunday, 13 April 2003 10:37 (twenty-three years ago)

one month passes...
Ernie Gehr!

That's the person I was trying to think of in my original post to this thread. The film that features rapidly alternating perspectives from within a hallway. It has been bothering me ever since (particularly as I'd seen the film in question multiple times), and it came to me tonight.

Serene Velocity. Great film. Anyone know this one?

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Friday, 16 May 2003 06:11 (twenty-three years ago)

Second vote for Heaven and Earth Magic! Also:

The Nine Lives of Thomas Katz
...where end of the world in coming to London, windows speak and the subway has it's own gods.

Watch the K Foundation Burn a Million Quid
...where the boys from KLF burn a million pounds of their own money. It really happened.

Don't Touch the White Woman!
...where the famous battle between general Custer and the Indians takes place in modern-day Paris. Marcello Mastroianni plays Custer, and Catherine Deneuve is his mistress.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Friday, 16 May 2003 06:37 (twenty-three years ago)

i agree with whoever said l'age d'or
the bit with the toes is so funny
much better than la chien andalou...

i thought the K foundation thing had been officially discredited now?

arthur woodlouse (arthur woodlouse), Friday, 16 May 2003 09:56 (twenty-three years ago)

True Stories!

Matt (Matt), Friday, 16 May 2003 10:02 (twenty-three years ago)

i thought the K foundation thing had been officially discredited now?

What do you mean by that? I heard Drummond & Cauty have destroyed all the existing copies of the film, but nothing about it being discredited.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Friday, 16 May 2003 10:14 (twenty-three years ago)

i heard a rumour/read somewhere - sorry i cannot actually give you the facts because i havent got that kind of memory - that bill drummond had finally admitted it was a hoax

which surprises me. i kind of thought he had gone through with it. seemed like that kind of bloke from his writing. [naive fool that i am]

arthur woodlouse (arthur woodlouse), Friday, 16 May 2003 10:16 (twenty-three years ago)

Weren't there a bunch of reporters there to witness it wasn't a hoax? You can see flashes of them in the film. Also, in the viewing I attended there was the guy who shot the film (KLF's roadie, apparently) speaking about it, and he sounded very honest. Of course that doesn't necessarily mean a thing.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Friday, 16 May 2003 10:26 (twenty-three years ago)

one year passes...
Are there any DVD compilations of Maya Deren films?

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Saturday, 2 October 2004 00:26 (twenty-one years ago)

more love for institue benjamenta here.

jed_ (jed), Saturday, 2 October 2004 00:38 (twenty-one years ago)

i wish, miloauckerman!

every once in a while i check amazon..i don't know how to start a request or a waiting list for a release, so all i do is hope..


now, the only maya deren- related dvd out at this point is the excellent documentary "in the mirror with maya deren" on zeitgiest films.

reo, Saturday, 2 October 2004 00:49 (twenty-one years ago)

-The Saddest Music in the World
-Delicatessen
-Fando & Lis
-Decasia

reo, Saturday, 2 October 2004 01:05 (twenty-one years ago)

John Smith - anything, particularly Associations, Slow Glass, Shepherd's Delight, Girl Chewing Gum, or The Black Tower. Fuck it, just volume 1 of the anthology

George Landow - On the Marriage Broker Joke...

Girolamo Savonarola, Sunday, 3 October 2004 12:20 (twenty-one years ago)

i believe that suprn0va.0rg has" meshes in the afternoon" as a torrent

how about "Holy Mountain" by Jodorowsky

You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Sunday, 3 October 2004 12:48 (twenty-one years ago)

John Waters has got to be on this list.

# Hairspray (1988)
# Desperate Living (1977)
# Female Trouble (1974)
# Pink Flamingos (1972)
# Multiple Maniacs (1970)

EComplex (EComplex), Sunday, 3 October 2004 14:57 (twenty-one years ago)

"Holy Mountain" is the ONLY surrealist film you need to see. Esp. the part about the psychedelic shotguns.

Adam Bruneau (oliver8bit), Sunday, 3 October 2004 16:00 (twenty-one years ago)

The BFI disc of L'Age d'Or will have Un Chien Andalou on it

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Sunday, 3 October 2004 16:02 (twenty-one years ago)

"I have conquered the Holy Mountain -- horizontally"

The Color of Pomegranates -Sergei Paradjanov

WR Mysteries of the Organism -Dusan Makavejev
Sweet Movie - Dusan Makavejev

(under no circumstances read _any_ plot summary of Sweet Movie before watching the film)

http://www.brightlightsfilm.com/33/makavejev.html

All Bunuel after 1960 is worth watching at least once, also don't miss El

(Jon L), Sunday, 3 October 2004 19:51 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.wayney.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/surreal.htm

found this site looking for a good link for Zulawski's film Possession. have seen about 75% of these, which bodes well for the ones I haven't.

(Jon L), Sunday, 3 October 2004 20:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Troll 2 (seriously).

latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 3 October 2004 22:47 (twenty-one years ago)

all buñuel is watching, period (i haven't seen the two musicals he made when he got to mexico)

i thought this was the thread where one of the noize dudes threw a hissy fit because they thought i criticized a brakhage film, but i guess not

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Sunday, 3 October 2004 22:49 (twenty-one years ago)

WORTH watching

(sorry)

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Sunday, 3 October 2004 22:49 (twenty-one years ago)

the surrealist film page linked a couple of posts back is great (yay places to d/l Un Chien Andalou) but has the worst layout/navigation I've seen in a long time.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Sunday, 3 October 2004 23:29 (twenty-one years ago)

The ICA imprint has some nice films (including Patrick Keiller's "London" and "Robinson In Space" - two of my all time favourites) but a lot of the really great stuff is still only available on PAL VHS.

Tous Les Garcons S'Appellent Little Lord Travolta (nordicskilla), Sunday, 3 October 2004 23:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Patrick Keiller - c/d?

Tous Les Garcons S'Appellent Little Lord Travolta (nordicskilla), Sunday, 3 October 2004 23:53 (twenty-one years ago)

three years pass...

An Evening w/ Ernie Gehr at NYC MoMA tonight (there were still tix 2 hrs ago).

http://moma.org/calendar/films.php?id=6243

Dr Morbius, Monday, 29 October 2007 20:06 (eighteen years ago)

Recent obits for Curtis Harrington refer to a series of early underground movies, including one, 'Wormwood Star', featuring the fabulous Marjorie Cameron from 'Inauguration of the Pleasure Dome'.

Anyone seen any of this?

Soukesian, Monday, 29 October 2007 20:30 (eighteen years ago)

By next year, every expensive uptown arts venue that screens a-g film will be devoted entirely to Ernie Gehr.

C0L1N B..., Monday, 29 October 2007 23:03 (eighteen years ago)

'Pleasure Dome' is fucking awesome! There's a collection of Kenneth Anger's films (vol. 1, more forthcoming I hope) on DVD now from Fantomas, I got it through Netflix. I liked all five of them on the DVD. Marjorie Cameron was the wife of Jack Parsons, crazy fucking world.

Abbott, Monday, 29 October 2007 23:23 (eighteen years ago)

Chappaqua, anyone?

ian, Monday, 29 October 2007 23:47 (eighteen years ago)

Anger v.2 is out.

Gehr was a funny little guy, talking about his friendship w/ Michael Snow: "Then he moved to Canada. And there was no email, it was the '60s! People were living in caves!"

Serene Velocity is hypnotic, for those who aren't susceptible to seizures... Side/Walk/Shuttle might be in my top 3 San Francisco films now.

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 13:59 (eighteen years ago)

pleasure dome is def. my favorite anger

impudent harlot, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 14:44 (eighteen years ago)

Didn't Jack Parsons claim at one point that Marjorie Cameron wasn't actually human, that she was the magic(k)al result of a ritual that he and L Ron Hubbard had been working?

aldo, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 14:50 (eighteen years ago)

two years pass...

So, anyone want to talk about structural film? I know virtually nothing about it, but nevertheless assigned myself the task of writing about it.

On that note, I love how This video is a response to Global Swine Flu Cases Close To Pandemic Level

EDB, Saturday, 23 January 2010 02:01 (sixteen years ago)

five months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mY7B2-Wqj6g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-v4kZPzZzY&feature=related

Salted gnocchimole (admrl), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 17:01 (fifteen years ago)

I'm kind of amazed at what's on Youtube sometimes. Nothing beats seeing an actual PRINT of the Lipsett though!

Salted gnocchimole (admrl), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 17:02 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_avIZO8DoOs

Salted gnocchimole (admrl), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 17:09 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnakPuaDELk&playnext_from=TL&videos=LFTNLVlm3Y0&feature=rec-LGOUT-exp_fresh%2Bdiv-1r-2-HM

Salted gnocchimole (admrl), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 17:14 (fifteen years ago)

fucking love arthur lipsett, even though he's been a big influence on george lucas / coppolla etc it is astounding to me that I made it to 2009 before hearing about him. bruce conner is cool and everything but where the hell were the prints of lipsett's films when I was in film studies 101?

I have a copy of this and I even listen to it: http://www.discogs.com/Arthur-Lipsett-Arthur-Lipsett-Soundtracks/release/792458

http://www.diagonalthoughts.com/?p=64

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 17:15 (fifteen years ago)

I have the Lipsett soundtracks too!

Salted gnocchimole (admrl), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 17:15 (fifteen years ago)

we're pretty much legion

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 17:28 (fifteen years ago)

Some loops for y'all:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzMvQtVEXok&feature=related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pe8O5h9EEs&feature=related

Salted gnocchimole (admrl), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 17:30 (fifteen years ago)

These look like shit, sorry:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_9D_JB3TBA&feature=fvw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2LuqpirHl0

Salted gnocchimole (admrl), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 17:32 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDoH_KGTR7A

querelle: the last fassbinder (donna rouge), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 17:34 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=retMJjM3iBY&feature=related

querelle: the last fassbinder (donna rouge), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 17:36 (fifteen years ago)

Woah love the split frame in that last one.

Salted gnocchimole (admrl), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 17:39 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2OBNPN7818&feature=related

Salted gnocchimole (admrl), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 17:41 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTarJ0Op7W8&feature=related

Salted gnocchimole (admrl), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 17:43 (fifteen years ago)

I have more vivid memories of reading Richard Roud's Straub book than the films themselves, intriguing though they were.
I should get around to watching Sicilia!, which James Quant of TIFF was always talking up.

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 21 November 2022 03:56 (three years ago)

nine months pass...

couple of days left to catch two, imo, unmissable online retrospectives of female experiemntal filmmakers:

ellie epp on ultra dogme: https://ultradogme.com/2023/08/18/ellie-epp/

jun kurosawa on equinox: https://equinox.film

devvvine, Wednesday, 30 August 2023 12:24 (two years ago)

👍

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 30 August 2023 12:55 (two years ago)

one year passes...

Don't know, should I bother watching this?

https://www.closeupfilmcentre.com/film_programmes/2025/histoire-s-du-cinema/central-bazaar

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 25 January 2025 13:50 (one year ago)

Look fun?

Zurich is Starmed (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 25 January 2025 14:22 (one year ago)

Yes, all Dwoskin is essential

Ward Fowler, Saturday, 25 January 2025 14:48 (one year ago)

Although Central Bazaar is actually one of his easier to see films (the BFI put out a DVD of it).

A certain former ILXor co-edited a book about Dwoskin a couple of years ago btw.

Ward Fowler, Saturday, 25 January 2025 14:50 (one year ago)

Great, now won't actually be able to see this tonight but I will hunt some of his work down.

(Just reading about him and yes can see who that ilxor might be :-))

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 25 January 2025 14:57 (one year ago)


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