First half was kind of overwrought and obvious, second half was pretty great actually, especially Planet of the Apes and that lovely scene with Peggy and Abe (which reinforced my hunch that Elizabeth Moss is secretly the best actor on the show).
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 00:59 (eleven years ago) link
haha felt like don was channeling the audience w/ 'yknow bobby was just there before but when he sighed at the end of planet of the apes and said 'jesus' i actually started to love the lil dude'. never had huge probs w/ the jfk episode but agree that this handled living thru history much better. loved peggy on the couch so much. 'next week on mad men' offered me something to chew on for once: joan w/ her hair down.
― balls, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 01:17 (eleven years ago) link
oh god that "hug".
― Chuck E was a hero to most (s.clover), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 03:31 (eleven years ago) link
ug this was pretty terrible except for the Don-and-son sequence, Peggy/Abe and babies, and a few of the gags.
― sean gramophone, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 03:33 (eleven years ago) link
scene with the kids in the car was appropriately striking.
― Chuck E was a hero to most (s.clover), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 03:38 (eleven years ago) link
5) Peggy wants kids now, isn't that cute
― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, April 29, 2013 8:35 AM (12 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I thought it was cute! :D <3
― resulting paste of mashed cheez poops (silby), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 03:48 (eleven years ago) link
helps that Abe has p. much the same look my Dad had when he graduated from Oberlin in 1973
yeah abe's alright, gonna suck when peggy cheats on him w/ ted
― balls, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 03:50 (eleven years ago) link
lol yeah, they're telegraphing that one p hard, wonder if it'll actually pan out that way
― resulting paste of mashed cheez poops (silby), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 03:53 (eleven years ago) link
i hope it doesn't though i guess it'd be a way for her to fuck don w/o actually fucking don, i like pegs though so i don't want to see her make a stupid mistake like that. keep wondering if a merger is in the cards also, they keep emphasising small agencies like ted's and scdp getting squeezed out.
― balls, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 03:59 (eleven years ago) link
I hope it doesn't too, and tbh I don't think Weiner/the show has much interest in Ted; he seems too friendly and goes on spiritual retreats in Minnesota or whatever.
― resulting paste of mashed cheez poops (silby), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 04:27 (eleven years ago) link
could turn out to be a child molester obvi, because it is Mad Men, but y'know.
I liked this episode, was weirded out by Bobby Draper having discernable characteristics and feelings.
― resulting paste of mashed cheez poops (silby), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 04:28 (eleven years ago) link
I guess idg ilx taste anymore. this episode made me lol more than any stupid bob's burgers ep ever did.
― wk, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 04:54 (eleven years ago) link
Don's "I love my kids (?)" scene was straight lousy
― flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 05:27 (eleven years ago) link
kind of reminded me that there was a point in time where people didn't know how "planet of the apes" ends.
bobby draper otm.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 05:51 (eleven years ago) link
i don't know if i'm bringing my personal baggage to the table, but don saying that he's never really loved his kids felt brutal to me. like game-changingly brutal, even though all the evidence has pointed to him feeling that way through the entire show. there was always the hope that deep down he loved his kids even if he had trouble expressing it, so for him to admit that he didn't even FEEL it was horrible to me. so much so that i hated the indulgent poetics of "but then i felt love for bobby and it's like my heart burst." like, u don't get to share your insights about the nature of love anymore, go sit in the corner and think about what you did.
― a sentimental knife (reddening), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 10:07 (eleven years ago) link
Why are Teds in American network TV always the same kind of interchangeable douchey office affair types? So far I count Mad Men Ted, Six Feet Under Ted and Breaking Bad Ted. THEY ARE ALL THE SAME PERSON.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 10:26 (eleven years ago) link
Tyrion Lannister will know he's really got problems if he discovers his devoted girlfriend is working with a manservant named Ted, wearing a suit, with an expression of vaguely lascivious banality on his face.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 10:31 (eleven years ago) link
Better off Ted Ted was a'ight.
― Chuck E was a hero to most (s.clover), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 12:52 (eleven years ago) link
Haaaaave you met Ted?
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 13:06 (eleven years ago) link
Ted on How I Met Your Mother is pretty awful as well.
― The last of the famous international Greyjoys (Nicole), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 13:19 (eleven years ago) link
In a perfect world, they would all be played by Ted McGinley.
― Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 13:36 (eleven years ago) link
I could've sworn Don had made that "heart about to burst" speech before... but about something else
― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, April 29, 2013 7:12 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Howard Johnson's, iirc.
the Planet of the Apes scene made that whole episode worth it for methe stunned silence in the theater after the ending, the look on Bobby and Don's faces as they took it all in, the way Bobby said 'jeeeeeeeeezus' & that look of approval Don gave him
but it's also SO fucking Don Draper that the moment he realizes he loves his son is the moment his son is confronted with huge questions of mortality, existence... I did share a little bit of reddening's OH FUCK YOU that Don gets overwhelmed with love in that moment. Why? oh because your kid reminds him of himself. selfish dick. Like that's what you want for your kid. For him to be an adult sailboat bobbing around in the ocean wondering what it all means. Cue 'Cats In The Cradle' and pour yourself a scotch, you sad sack of shit.
also I finally realized what Betty's face makeup was reminding me of: Jiminy Glick :(
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 16:46 (eleven years ago) link
Don's just missing Sylvia, is all. Has he ever been so mopey over any of the other women? Maybe the teacher, idk.
― Jaq, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 16:48 (eleven years ago) link
Don's always mopey!
― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 16:49 (eleven years ago) link
Nah, not like this, not all love-sick and hopeless because of a ladyfriend. Even with Midge, it was like "oh, damn you obviously actually love this other guy. whatever." and on to the next one.
― Jaq, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 16:51 (eleven years ago) link
I have/had the feeling that Don's missing the Dr. Like he's having an affair with the wife, but he's equally or more concerned about his new life-saving witty jew friend.
― dan selzer, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 16:56 (eleven years ago) link
I hope it's not going be like the Grinch where his heart grows and he gets that inane smile thing going.
― Jaq, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 16:58 (eleven years ago) link
Cue 'Cats In The Cradle' and pour yourself a scotch, you sad sack of shit.
This should be a bumper sticker.
― Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 17:38 (eleven years ago) link
I'm really tired of Don and/or Matthew Weiner using his childhood as an excuse for all of the shitty things he does too.
― The last of the famous international Greyjoys (Nicole), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 17:43 (eleven years ago) link
Ha! otm. January Jones deserves some kind of Good Sport Emmy for putting up with that ridiculousness.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 17:54 (eleven years ago) link
Though I guess now she's going to start to get herself back in sexy shape.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 17:57 (eleven years ago) link
yeah, they pulled back THE CHIN this week somewhat
― brb buying poppers w/my employee discount (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 18:03 (eleven years ago) link
whenever anyone calls her "Brown Betty" it just makes me think of "difficult brown"
― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 18:04 (eleven years ago) link
I just wish they'd get out of that dark old house
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 18:11 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwWK9le2CD8
― balls, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 19:07 (eleven years ago) link
The Planet of the Apes part of the episode was my favorite part, because I love that movie and it made me think a bit more about the context in which it was released.
I've always been miffed that no one has ever tried to make this musical or the musical about the Betty Ford Clinic from the Simpsons for real.
― The last of the famous international Greyjoys (Nicole), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 19:11 (eleven years ago) link
maybe my favorite simpsons moment
― brb buying poppers w/my employee discount (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 19:12 (eleven years ago) link
This play has everything.
― Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 19:14 (eleven years ago) link
Also it was a great illustration of the power of fiction; it made Bobby engage with the issues of his his era far more than the news possibly could.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 22:47 (eleven years ago) link
jesus!
― cozen, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 22:49 (eleven years ago) link
I just wish they'd get out of that dark old houseThe house Betty is in now is even darker then the one she was in before. I can barely stand to watch those scenes.
― *tera, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 02:43 (eleven years ago) link
*than
i'm glad i don't live inside betty's house/mind xpost
― rock 'em sock 'em (Treeship), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 03:38 (eleven years ago) link
Douglas sirk, minus the color
― brb buying poppers w/my employee discount (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 04:11 (eleven years ago) link
Which is to say it misses the point in many ways
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Tuesday, April 30, 2013 5:47 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah i'm not sure what it added up to but the mix of assassinations/rioting-perceived-as-apocalyptic and a film that actually broaches the issue of apocalypse was kind of heady here. like a nice piece of film criticism in a way. i wish mad men would operate on that level more often instead of tossing about little "interpret-able" teasers for the "day-after-blog-response" crowd.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 07:47 (eleven years ago) link
ha i just remembered why i left ilx. i guess i'll go away again. have fun folks.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, April 30, 2013 2:20 AM (Yesterday)
― balls, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 08:53 (eleven years ago) link