I concede it's a pretty fickle standard. Obviously people being stupid shouldn't invalidate horror films, because otherwise I would dismiss some of the best horror films ever made. I suppose somewhere in my calculations I consider style/originality/effects/general effectiveness/wit/surprise/shock/scares/mood, etc.. The "Evil Dead" remake was an example of a film that failed on all of these levels save perhaps effects, which is why I guess stuff that doesn't usually bother me really bothered me. Also, the characters were really, really stupid, which reduced it to the level of an exercise for me, both as a film and as a filmgoing experience. Especially coming just a year after "Cabin in the Woods," "Evil Dead" was like watching a children's balloon animal fart out all its air and flutter aimlessly across the screen.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 28 April 2013 12:40 (thirteen years ago)
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i think part of the problem was that the remake brought character to the fore in a way the original never did, spending all that time building up the protagonist's tragic backstory, the strained relationships, etc. it attempted to be roughly "realistic" in the manner of most contemporary commercial horror films (and failed, imo), while the characters in the '81 version are distanced and framed by weird naive-but-knowing stylization of that era. the latter approach is much more forgiving, since the audience is never really asked to believe in what they're seeing.
― controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Sunday, 28 April 2013 12:57 (thirteen years ago)
That could be it. If you're going to fill your film with real people rather than punching bags, they have to act like real people.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 28 April 2013 13:15 (thirteen years ago)
I have Sinister to watch this weekend, yay
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 3 May 2013 23:57 (thirteen years ago)
It's so good
― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Saturday, 4 May 2013 00:15 (thirteen years ago)
it was yr raveups that convinced me :)
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 4 May 2013 00:21 (thirteen years ago)
I started Sinister with the lights out...1/3 of the way through I got up and turned the lights back on. Jeeeeezus it made me jump like 90 times!I really enjoyed it, except towards the end. *spoilerish* the kids took me right out of the movie, so the ending ended up feeling kinda dumb. But the rest of it was fun! And JAMES RANSONE Sergeant Ziggy at yr service <3
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 5 May 2013 02:19 (thirteen years ago)
Has anyone caught anything good on Netflix streaming recently, other than Grave Encounters, Lovely Molly, JDATE, etc?
I've just installed a chrome plugin that gives me access to the whole US catalogue, which is pretty huge but looks mostly terrible. I'm sure there are some hidden gems though.
― хуто-хуторянка (ShariVari), Monday, 6 May 2013 06:25 (thirteen years ago)
About to watch "we are what we are" will report back.
Not streaming on Netflix, but should be on fear.net if you have on demand cable or whatever
― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 8 May 2013 04:12 (thirteen years ago)
Sadly mediocre at best
― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 8 May 2013 06:03 (thirteen years ago)
Thanks. Might give it a miss then.
― хуто-хуторянка (ShariVari), Wednesday, 8 May 2013 07:37 (thirteen years ago)
to expand, it just seems really painfully aimless? and man, for those of you that don't like big leaps of anti-logic, the lead up to the climax is crazy crazy stupid and totally beyond belief.
― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 9 May 2013 16:48 (thirteen years ago)
watched the maniac remake last night. repellent and rather dull. not recommended, but gorehounds will appreciate the effects work.
then i watched sinister. almost the opposite: disturbing, but not inclined to wallow, and a hell of a lot of fun. loses some steam when it goes ott in the 2nd half, but i loved the build-up. clever play on the "found footage" genre, too.
― controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Monday, 13 May 2013 02:02 (thirteen years ago)
Watched Dead Europe tonight. It's about an Australian/Greek photographer guy taking his father's ashes back to Europe and he starts seeing dead people and starts realising the folk nonsense his family talked about curses wasn't strictly bollocks. It is flawed but worth your time.
― Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 00:56 (thirteen years ago)
Man, I'm kind of struggling with "Mama" right now. Seems good, but all the ancillaries are bothering me: Chastain's wig/character, the horrible acting of the psychologist, Jaime Lannister ...
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 15:05 (thirteen years ago)
Hmm: http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/independent/maniac/
― Not Simone Choule (Eric H.), Thursday, 23 May 2013 17:16 (thirteen years ago)
yeah, mentioned it a couple posts back. did not enjoy.
― controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Thursday, 23 May 2013 17:27 (thirteen years ago)
Sorry, missed it. Had to rebookmark a bunch of threads when they were getting out of control.
― Not Simone Choule (Eric H.), Thursday, 23 May 2013 17:44 (thirteen years ago)
Saw Mama on a flight and I have a question for horror buffs. The feel of the movie is very similar to dozens of others, including the US remake of The Ring, right down to certain motifs: autumnal setting, sleuthing in spooky libraries/archives, aerial shots of cars driving through woods/mountains, solemn orchestral score, Oscar-nommed actress slumming it, clear if misplaced sense of its own classiness. I feel like I've seen so many so-so horror movies in the past decade that look like this and I wondered what the first was. Does it pre-date The Ring?
Mama was OK but I couldn't even begin to buy Jessica Chastain as a tattooed goth bass-player.
― Deafening silence (DL), Friday, 24 May 2013 12:13 (thirteen years ago)
It sounds like you're referring to this hyper-styled, filtered look, which casts everything in perpetual blue shadow. It's a good question. There is a lot of "The Ring" in this movie, and a million other movies, too. Unfortunately, there's not a whole lot of movie in this movie, which is what lets "Mama" down. Just nothing happening when everyone already seems to know what's happening, for no good reason.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 24 May 2013 13:51 (thirteen years ago)
I seem to recall a precursor to the look being Neil Jordan's "In Dreams."
Really wanted to love Black Rock, but with a movie this stripped-down, the execution needs to be pretty much perfect, and key aspects were a little lacking.
― Simon H., Friday, 24 May 2013 14:34 (thirteen years ago)
intrigued by a field in england, new movie from the guy who did kill list, which got "eh" to "amazing!" responses itt. trailer makes it look like it might scratch the same itch sauna did for me....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRRvzjkzu2U
― truth bomb lawyer mean mean pride (Edward III), Friday, 24 May 2013 15:43 (thirteen years ago)
totally dig the 70s paperback style of the movie poster too
http://cdn.bloody-disgusting.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/a-field-in-england-poster-1.jpeg
― truth bomb lawyer mean mean pride (Edward III), Friday, 24 May 2013 15:45 (thirteen years ago)
ooh that looks good but i think i would instinctively like it based on the title and poster alone :-/
― free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Friday, 24 May 2013 15:48 (thirteen years ago)
That dude needs to slow down.
― Not Simone Choule (Eric H.), Friday, 24 May 2013 15:48 (thirteen years ago)
some weird ass remakes coming out too, of 70s aussie sleeper patrick and hated-by-jjjusten mexican cannibal flick we are what we are (the latter by the guy who did stake land).
tho I do believe remakes should be made of small imperfect movies instead of fucking up what was fine to begin with. wish somebody would remake the 70s telekinesis pic the medusa touch. great premise poorly executed.
― truth bomb lawyer mean mean pride (Edward III), Friday, 24 May 2013 16:03 (thirteen years ago)
yeah AFIE looks like total la lechera catnip
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― truth bomb lawyer mean mean pride (Edward III), Friday, 24 May 2013 16:05 (thirteen years ago)
AFIE looks amazing pls give me puritan pron!
― Deafening silence (DL), Friday, May 24, 2013 8:13 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I feel like Shyamalan kind of midwifed this style.
― 2 huxtables and a sousaphone (Jon Lewis), Friday, 24 May 2013 16:55 (thirteen years ago)
I think i have a problem taking Reece Shearsmith seriously
― Number None, Friday, 24 May 2013 16:59 (thirteen years ago)
Wheatley's Sightseers was dreadful for me, after that he really he needs to make amends. Despite the good reviews it got it was absolute rinse.
― Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Friday, 24 May 2013 17:56 (thirteen years ago)
couldn't disagree more, DSP. but then i treated Sightseers as a theoretical prequel to my favorite movie of 2011 (Simon Arthur's Silver Tongues), and it just made me love both that much more.
― silent ouzo eclipse (Mr. Hal Jam), Friday, 24 May 2013 18:01 (thirteen years ago)
Not seen Silver Tongues, it looks decent. I expected a kind of Mike Leigh's Nuts In May crossed with a Hammer House of Horror vibe from Sightseers and it has no atmosphere, no tension and the writing is dreadful. Whilst watching it I started to think I might have overrated Kill List.
― Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Friday, 24 May 2013 18:24 (thirteen years ago)
Leigh/NIM, yes. But I don't know what could have led you to expect a HHOH vibe. it's such a thoroughly modern film. Wright's production credit is more key than anyone is willing to acknowledge. I'd also argue that Sightseers is not a horror movie, no matter how high the body count. Just a very black, very British comedy.
― silent ouzo eclipse (Mr. Hal Jam), Friday, 24 May 2013 18:38 (thirteen years ago)
I will be looking forward to AFIE so long as there is 0 comedy involved. I didn't detect any in the trailer, but maybe my detector is off?
― free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Friday, 24 May 2013 18:50 (thirteen years ago)
I suppose it was the HHOH element of the 2nd half of Kill List that endeared me to it and I expected more of the sameish. "it's such a thoroughly modern film." Maybe that is what I hate about it, it reminds of that Danny Boyle type of film making, that seems calculating and competent but always weighs the same. Or maybe you could sub DB for British.
― Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Friday, 24 May 2013 19:14 (thirteen years ago)
netflix streaming has been a goddamn death zone for horror adds for weeks
― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 30 May 2013 16:32 (thirteen years ago)
a death zone sounds like it would be a great source for horror movies. or did you mean more "stagnant, useless"?
― how's life, Thursday, 30 May 2013 16:40 (thirteen years ago)
a health clinic of horror adds
― 2 huxtables and a sousaphone (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 30 May 2013 16:41 (thirteen years ago)
Alright fuck it, watching hatchet 2
― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Monday, 3 June 2013 05:35 (thirteen years ago)
Hahaha that was glorious stupid fantastic self-aware fun! I know I am normally mr. serious moody creepfest much of the time on this thread but that was every right kind of ridiculous.
Plz note: this is custom built for gorehound return of the living dead 2 types, if that is not your scene don't bother. Funniest moment is a Venetian closet nod gag that is an all time winner.
― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Monday, 3 June 2013 07:03 (thirteen years ago)
Ok on the more sober side of the day, I might have oversold that a little. First 5-10 minutes are a little worrisome, the middle is mostly gore free but full of some clever nods and awesome cameos, and the last 30 are non stop ridiculous bloodbath fun.
― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Monday, 3 June 2013 21:31 (thirteen years ago)
Going to find out if V/H/S/2 is any good tonight, didn't mind the first one and some reviewers have been raving about it.
― Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Friday, 7 June 2013 14:29 (thirteen years ago)
never bothered with the first, but gotta say, the raid guy doing a short has me interested
― original bgm, Friday, 7 June 2013 16:54 (thirteen years ago)
It is a piss poor horror anthology but the Welsh bloke who made raid really delivers, the rest are shit. His short about a deranged doomsday cult is totally in the wrong company.
― Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Saturday, 8 June 2013 00:17 (thirteen years ago)
i pretty much HATED the first V/H/S, so it's going to be tough to get me to go back to the well on that one.
should be getting "some guy who kills people" on disc tonight via netflix, will report back
― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Saturday, 8 June 2013 19:39 (thirteen years ago)
If you hated V/H/S give it a wide berth, because overall 2 is even worse. But I would recommend fastforwarding to the Gareth Evans contribution, which is in a different class to the other 3/4 of the movie.
― Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Sunday, 9 June 2013 01:55 (thirteen years ago)
Evans/Tjahjanto segment of V/H/S 2 almost did me in. More the un-steady cam than the intensity. Though that, too.
― silent ouzo eclipse (Mr. Hal Jam), Sunday, 9 June 2013 16:53 (thirteen years ago)
when the idea is good i can bring a lot of good will to the table (to make it work for me) and on that level VSH got it: an underground vhs tape exchange network that focus on "paranormal" snuff videos. dude, that creeps me out.
― Sébastien, Sunday, 9 June 2013 17:38 (thirteen years ago)