yeah don specifically opposing war makes sense plus by 68 public support of war had dropped considerably
Month Percentage who agreed with warAugust 1965 52%March 1966 59%May 1966 49%September 1966 48%November 1966 51%February 1967 52%May 1967 50%July 1967 48%October 1967 46%December 1967 48%February 1968 42%March 1968 41%April 1968 40%August 1968 35%October 1968 37%February 1969 39%October 1969 32%January 1970 33%April 1970 34%May 1970 36%January 1971 31%May 1971 28%
― balls, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 20:54 (eleven years ago) link
i read that as "this ny liberal jewish guy is clearly against the war, so i'll say i'm against it to"
if he was talking to some conservatives he'd probably say he was for the war
just dinner table conversation no?
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 21:41 (eleven years ago) link
xp you don't understand "penny" is the name of his dog
― brb buying poppers w/my employee discount (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 21:44 (eleven years ago) link
I usually have the inflation calculator site open while watching Mad Men. The $23k Harry got would've been $143k today.
The $.01 he gave to Lindsey Weir would be $.06 today. And it's the sixth season. It's all a rich tapestry.
― Pope Frank is the messenger of your doom (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 21:55 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Bcd-zmB4vk
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:01 (eleven years ago) link
I dunno, remember he experienced a rather similar Asian war himself...
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:26 (eleven years ago) link
was mel supposed to be jewish? is 'mel' a common jewish name? or does ted mcginley just code as 'jewish' to some ppl?
― balls, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:30 (eleven years ago) link
honestly I never thought much past 'swinging tv-executive' to really wonder
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:31 (eleven years ago) link
yeah I dunno where the "ny liberal jewish guy" comes from
― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:38 (eleven years ago) link
midtown generally
― brb buying poppers w/my employee discount (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:39 (eleven years ago) link
*rimshot*
― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:39 (eleven years ago) link
maybe amster thought 'well this guy's a degenerate and he holds power in mass media - gotta be jewish!' i don't know, assumed i missed a line like w/ j walter thompson landing heinz
― balls, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:41 (eleven years ago) link
im just gonna move this over here
he was always liberal republican
― balls, Wednesday, April 24, 2013 6:48 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
my hunch where characters would lean in 68
pete, peg, cosgrove (?) - rfkabe, ginsburg - mccarthystan - paulsendraper - rockefellersterling, crane - nixoncooper - reagan
― balls, Wednesday, April 24, 2013 6:54 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
no way is Draper voting for his ex-wife's new husband's bro
― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, April 24, 2013 6:55 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
and Cooper's been pimping Nixon since Season 3 at least
― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, April 24, 2013 6:56 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
also lol wrong thread maybe eh
― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, April 24, 2013 7:00 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
cooper was pimping nixon in season one but he's a goldwater guy and randian and damn near quoted reagan on medicare at that party. i could see him being establishment enough to go nixon though. good point about don not giving henry francis any business and romney's already flaked out by this point so he'd probably be a nixon guy also. and o this is the wrong thread lol.
― balls, Wednesday, April 24, 2013 7:04 PM (0 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― balls, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 23:05 (eleven years ago) link
can't really see Don going for Nixon's sweaty awkwardness.
― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 23:25 (eleven years ago) link
is 'mel' a common jewish name?
― tokyo rosemary, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 23:27 (eleven years ago) link
Nixon is exactly the wrong sort of Draper crush.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 23:35 (eleven years ago) link
I think Megan will discover Don and the Ita chick and be out at the end of the season.
― calstars, Thursday, 25 April 2013 00:44 (eleven years ago) link
Possible reconciliation with Betty by the series finale
― calstars, Thursday, 25 April 2013 00:45 (eleven years ago) link
After a long reconciliation buildup and change of character for Don, the Last scene of series finale will be mirror image of last scene of season 5..
― calstars, Thursday, 25 April 2013 00:46 (eleven years ago) link
Werner wouldn't be at obvious though right?
― calstars, Thursday, 25 April 2013 00:47 (eleven years ago) link
― balls, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:30 (Yesterday) Permalink
i think there was an explicit mention of his jewishness at some point in the season. as for liberal i dunno i just got that vibe from the told-you-so way he noted that we're losing the war and just his general outlook/disposition. but who knows.
i don't know why i feel this way but i think don's having been in korea has fuck all to do with whatever opinions he may or may not have about vietnam. i just don't think of "him" (the character) as processing the experience that way.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 25 April 2013 07:00 (eleven years ago) link
xpost
my prediction for the show finale is that pete will locate some kind of portal to 1962 and tell his (somewhat) younger self where to make the best investments, how to gain the edge over his coworkers, etc. sort of like biff tannen in back to the future 2.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 25 April 2013 07:02 (eleven years ago) link
I keep expecting Sal to show up.
― *tera, Thursday, 25 April 2013 07:19 (eleven years ago) link
posted this to the other thread too but what the hell, henry francis dropped rockefeller in season 4 for john lindsay & don has mentioned a couple times that he doesn't vote (as seems to be true of most fake people with fake names trying to stay just off the grid).
― discreet, Thursday, 25 April 2013 08:16 (eleven years ago) link
he doesn't want to vote because he doesn't want to give ammunition to the 21st century GOP in their war on voting rights
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 25 April 2013 14:05 (eleven years ago) link
discussion i had last night w/ a few ppl where there wasn't immediate consensus -- does don sincerely like his doctor friend or is the fact that he's shtupping his wife an indication that he does not? i feel like the two are separate - he legit likes the doctor, considers him a friend and an interesting person. also he doesn't mind cuckolding him bc don is pretty morally vacuous. other ppl thought he was only using the doctor to get to the wife, or some variation on that, idk.
― Mordy, Thursday, 25 April 2013 14:37 (eleven years ago) link
Answer actually is: Don Draper is very compartmentalised.
― karl lagerlout (suzy), Thursday, 25 April 2013 14:40 (eleven years ago) link
that's my theory
― Mordy, Thursday, 25 April 2013 14:41 (eleven years ago) link
It's no different from the guy who's all smiles on social occasions and you'd never guess he was beating his wife, because he's convinced himself what a bro he is.
― karl lagerlout (suzy), Thursday, 25 April 2013 14:43 (eleven years ago) link
Oh I'm absolutely convinced he likes Doc Whatsit. He seems to feel more guilt about this particular tryst than usual, part of the reason may be that he's betraying two people he cares for.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Thursday, 25 April 2013 14:54 (eleven years ago) link
Don Draper is very compartmentalised
^^^^
― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 25 April 2013 15:29 (eleven years ago) link
Don Draper:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_hdnFN9Lfv2U/TDVc7SsyuRI/AAAAAAAABDs/X4QVgxRxNEU/s400/Apothecary.jpg
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 25 April 2013 15:40 (eleven years ago) link
Women still like to go into his drawers.
― The last of the famous international Greyjoys (Nicole), Thursday, 25 April 2013 15:45 (eleven years ago) link
They wanna get all dewey on his decimals.
I'll show myself out.
― Sheela-Tubb-Mann, You Real Know-It-All (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 25 April 2013 16:21 (eleven years ago) link
Tracey Wigfield @TraceyWigfield Best thing ever: on MadMen last night Ted ordered an Old Spanish, a made-up drink from 30 Rock. Red wine, tonic water & olives for everyone!
― mizzell, Thursday, 25 April 2013 19:20 (eleven years ago) link
haha what
― resulting paste of mashed cheez poops (silby), Thursday, 25 April 2013 19:21 (eleven years ago) link
was wondering wtf an Old Spanish was tbh
― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 25 April 2013 19:45 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.vice.com/en_au/read/the-mad-men-writers-are-working-on-a-show-about-nasa-in-the-60s
YES!
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 25 April 2013 23:06 (eleven years ago) link
omg omg omg please please please be awesome
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 25 April 2013 23:13 (eleven years ago) link
Could be cool, as long as it doesn't ape the Mad Men aesthetic too much.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Thursday, 25 April 2013 23:17 (eleven years ago) link
yeah they better be testflying rockets and driving fast casrs and not sighing and staring out of windows
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 25 April 2013 23:18 (eleven years ago) link
"Mad Men writers" is p vague, can't be referring to Weiner, but if it turns out to be the Jacquemettons this could be some good shit
― resulting paste of mashed cheez poops (silby), Thursday, 25 April 2013 23:54 (eleven years ago) link
Mad Style is always great, but TLo really outdid themselves this week: http://www.tomandlorenzo.com/2013/04/mad-style-to-have-and-to-hold.html
― Roz, Friday, 26 April 2013 02:10 (eleven years ago) link
If mad men nasa show is lame I'll just watch the Right Stuff another hundred times.
― dan selzer, Friday, 26 April 2013 02:49 (eleven years ago) link
true :)
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 26 April 2013 04:41 (eleven years ago) link
what's ppl's take on from earth to the moon? i LOVED it but at the same time suspect it wasn't actually that great.
― balls, Friday, 26 April 2013 06:00 (eleven years ago) link
IT IS GREAT
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 26 April 2013 06:01 (eleven years ago) link
GREAT
It's been forever since I watched it, but I remember thinking it was really well done.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 26 April 2013 06:04 (eleven years ago) link
i watch it every couple of years but also i may be crazy biased
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 26 April 2013 06:05 (eleven years ago) link