Totally didn't get that Ted & Peggy also didn't get the Heinz Ketchup account
Really?
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 12:23 (eleven years ago) link
Seems like that was a common misconception. J.Walter Thompson got the account.
― jaymc, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 12:33 (eleven years ago) link
Didn't Peggy say "they bought it in the room" or something? Or was the JWT bombshell later?
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 12:37 (eleven years ago) link
Didn't Peggy say "they bought it in the room" or something?
Yeah - I thought that meant the Heinz had bought Peggy's concept in the room, without even waiting to weigh up the two options (didn't even know there was a third company going after the tender, which I thought was secret, which surely was why it was awwwwwkward when Peggy bumped into the Don Draper gang.)
― media conglomerates are pedaling the same product (stevie), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 13:00 (eleven years ago) link
It is possible there was a missing bit to our dl - I also didn't get that Don was schtupping the doctor's wife in the first episode thanks to seven phantom minutes.
― media conglomerates are pedaling the same product (stevie), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 13:01 (eleven years ago) link
I thought the line was "J. Walter Thompson bought it in the room."
― jaymc, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 13:07 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah - I should also add that I mistakenly assumed 'J Walter Thompson' was the name of Ted & Peggy's company...
― media conglomerates are pedaling the same product (stevie), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 13:12 (eleven years ago) link
I interviewed for an internship at J Walter Thompson when I was still in college, but they called me unexpectedly for a second phone interview and I was way too hungover to give any sort of coherent answer; when I heard J Walter Thompson it gave the scene a smidge more pathos.
― The last of the famous international Greyjoys (Nicole), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 14:14 (eleven years ago) link
thought there'd be a big deal that Stan leaked it and there'd be reckoning. He lucked out there.
kind of a moot point since ketchup guy was shopping around anyway.
― wk, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 15:28 (eleven years ago) link
that was marginally better but nothing this season has gotten all four wheels off the ground just yet
― brb buying poppers w/my employee discount (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 04:41 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah it seems to be cruising so far. Nothing particularly defineable, just something's missing. Maybe a weightiness or tension.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 11:50 (eleven years ago) link
TNC on his waning enthusiasm.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 20:30 (eleven years ago) link
Don not changing while the world changes around him has kind of always been the story....?
― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 20:33 (eleven years ago) link
was interesting that he just out and said he was against the war this episode. Liked this episode a lot more the second time around, noticed a lot of little details - recurrence of penny motif, matching b&w whore/mother/crone outfits, anti-tobacco undertones etc
also it wasn't clear to me before but I guess they have the Dow Chemical account now thx to Don's scenery-chewing in the last season? nutty.
― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 20:35 (eleven years ago) link
cosgrove
― balls, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 20:38 (eleven years ago) link
also lol @ kenny not even acknowledging Peggy at the diner
― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 20:39 (eleven years ago) link
they mentioned landing Dow in the premiere. the ad mockups w/the couple Don said "didn't exist" were for them.
― Sheela-Tubb-Mann, You Real Know-It-All (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 20:40 (eleven years ago) link
was interesting that he just out and said he was against the war this episode.
That threw me a bit, but it actually makes sense.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 20:41 (eleven years ago) link
re: pennies
Roger in the last ep: "Turns out the experiences are nothing. They’re just pennies you pick up off the floor, stick in your pocket, and you’re just going in a straight line to you-know-where"
Madchen Amick called Don her "bad penny" when she ran into him in the elevator last season
Don tells the whore at the whorehouse he "dropped a penny" when he was really watching Uncle Mack bone his stepmom through a keyhole
― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 20:47 (eleven years ago) link
"I'll tell you the same thing I told my daughter, if you put a penny in a jar everytime you make love in the first year of marriage, and then you take a penny out the jar everytime you make love in the second year, you know what you'll have? A jar full of pennies."
― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 20:49 (eleven years ago) link
― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, April 24, 2013 3:47 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i hate this kind of shit. can just see matt weiner rubbing his hands together while dropping in these pointless motifs and muttering, "the internet's gonna love this..."
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 20:52 (eleven years ago) link
I am the internet I guess
― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 20:54 (eleven years ago) link
yeah don specifically opposing war makes sense plus by 68 public support of war had dropped considerably
Month Percentage who agreed with warAugust 1965 52%March 1966 59%May 1966 49%September 1966 48%November 1966 51%February 1967 52%May 1967 50%July 1967 48%October 1967 46%December 1967 48%February 1968 42%March 1968 41%April 1968 40%August 1968 35%October 1968 37%February 1969 39%October 1969 32%January 1970 33%April 1970 34%May 1970 36%January 1971 31%May 1971 28%
― balls, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 20:54 (eleven years ago) link
i read that as "this ny liberal jewish guy is clearly against the war, so i'll say i'm against it to"
if he was talking to some conservatives he'd probably say he was for the war
just dinner table conversation no?
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 21:41 (eleven years ago) link
xp you don't understand "penny" is the name of his dog
― brb buying poppers w/my employee discount (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 21:44 (eleven years ago) link
I usually have the inflation calculator site open while watching Mad Men. The $23k Harry got would've been $143k today.
The $.01 he gave to Lindsey Weir would be $.06 today. And it's the sixth season. It's all a rich tapestry.
― Pope Frank is the messenger of your doom (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 21:55 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Bcd-zmB4vk
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:01 (eleven years ago) link
I dunno, remember he experienced a rather similar Asian war himself...
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:26 (eleven years ago) link
was mel supposed to be jewish? is 'mel' a common jewish name? or does ted mcginley just code as 'jewish' to some ppl?
― balls, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:30 (eleven years ago) link
honestly I never thought much past 'swinging tv-executive' to really wonder
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:31 (eleven years ago) link
yeah I dunno where the "ny liberal jewish guy" comes from
― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:38 (eleven years ago) link
midtown generally
― brb buying poppers w/my employee discount (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:39 (eleven years ago) link
*rimshot*
― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:39 (eleven years ago) link
maybe amster thought 'well this guy's a degenerate and he holds power in mass media - gotta be jewish!' i don't know, assumed i missed a line like w/ j walter thompson landing heinz
― balls, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:41 (eleven years ago) link
im just gonna move this over here
he was always liberal republican
― balls, Wednesday, April 24, 2013 6:48 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
my hunch where characters would lean in 68
pete, peg, cosgrove (?) - rfkabe, ginsburg - mccarthystan - paulsendraper - rockefellersterling, crane - nixoncooper - reagan
― balls, Wednesday, April 24, 2013 6:54 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
no way is Draper voting for his ex-wife's new husband's bro
― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, April 24, 2013 6:55 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
and Cooper's been pimping Nixon since Season 3 at least
― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, April 24, 2013 6:56 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
also lol wrong thread maybe eh
― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, April 24, 2013 7:00 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
cooper was pimping nixon in season one but he's a goldwater guy and randian and damn near quoted reagan on medicare at that party. i could see him being establishment enough to go nixon though. good point about don not giving henry francis any business and romney's already flaked out by this point so he'd probably be a nixon guy also. and o this is the wrong thread lol.
― balls, Wednesday, April 24, 2013 7:04 PM (0 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― balls, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 23:05 (eleven years ago) link
can't really see Don going for Nixon's sweaty awkwardness.
― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 23:25 (eleven years ago) link
is 'mel' a common jewish name?
― tokyo rosemary, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 23:27 (eleven years ago) link
Nixon is exactly the wrong sort of Draper crush.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 23:35 (eleven years ago) link
I think Megan will discover Don and the Ita chick and be out at the end of the season.
― calstars, Thursday, 25 April 2013 00:44 (eleven years ago) link
Possible reconciliation with Betty by the series finale
― calstars, Thursday, 25 April 2013 00:45 (eleven years ago) link
After a long reconciliation buildup and change of character for Don, the Last scene of series finale will be mirror image of last scene of season 5..
― calstars, Thursday, 25 April 2013 00:46 (eleven years ago) link
Werner wouldn't be at obvious though right?
― calstars, Thursday, 25 April 2013 00:47 (eleven years ago) link
― balls, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:30 (Yesterday) Permalink
i think there was an explicit mention of his jewishness at some point in the season. as for liberal i dunno i just got that vibe from the told-you-so way he noted that we're losing the war and just his general outlook/disposition. but who knows.
i don't know why i feel this way but i think don's having been in korea has fuck all to do with whatever opinions he may or may not have about vietnam. i just don't think of "him" (the character) as processing the experience that way.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 25 April 2013 07:00 (eleven years ago) link
xpost
my prediction for the show finale is that pete will locate some kind of portal to 1962 and tell his (somewhat) younger self where to make the best investments, how to gain the edge over his coworkers, etc. sort of like biff tannen in back to the future 2.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 25 April 2013 07:02 (eleven years ago) link
I keep expecting Sal to show up.
― *tera, Thursday, 25 April 2013 07:19 (eleven years ago) link
posted this to the other thread too but what the hell, henry francis dropped rockefeller in season 4 for john lindsay & don has mentioned a couple times that he doesn't vote (as seems to be true of most fake people with fake names trying to stay just off the grid).
― discreet, Thursday, 25 April 2013 08:16 (eleven years ago) link
he doesn't want to vote because he doesn't want to give ammunition to the 21st century GOP in their war on voting rights
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 25 April 2013 14:05 (eleven years ago) link
discussion i had last night w/ a few ppl where there wasn't immediate consensus -- does don sincerely like his doctor friend or is the fact that he's shtupping his wife an indication that he does not? i feel like the two are separate - he legit likes the doctor, considers him a friend and an interesting person. also he doesn't mind cuckolding him bc don is pretty morally vacuous. other ppl thought he was only using the doctor to get to the wife, or some variation on that, idk.
― Mordy, Thursday, 25 April 2013 14:37 (eleven years ago) link
Answer actually is: Don Draper is very compartmentalised.
― karl lagerlout (suzy), Thursday, 25 April 2013 14:40 (eleven years ago) link
that's my theory
― Mordy, Thursday, 25 April 2013 14:41 (eleven years ago) link