friend of mine had this to say about last ep
― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 19:44 (eleven years ago) link
great piece
― balls, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 19:58 (eleven years ago) link
balls otm as ever
― media conglomerates are pedaling the same product (stevie), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 20:11 (eleven years ago) link
and this: i like those colored glass partition things in pete's apartment.
― Pat Finn, Monday, April 15, 2013 4:16 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
my childhood home had amber glass sliding doors between the living room & the entry, with the same circle pattern
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 20:19 (eleven years ago) link
omg maybe pete is rly your dad
― zero dark (s1ocki), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 20:24 (eleven years ago) link
btw lol @ people in this thread thinking pete's being a rich jerk means he wouldn't have women throwing themselves at him. HE IS A RICH JERK. historically, rich jerks attract women.
― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 20:24 (eleven years ago) link
remember the sideburns-less days
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5py2pbJqX1qakzr4.gif
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 20:25 (eleven years ago) link
oh shit was that the episode where pete had the mumps?
― media conglomerates are pedaling the same product (stevie), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 20:27 (eleven years ago) link
my dad had sideburns too!
omg s1ocki
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 20:27 (eleven years ago) link
miss you lane :(
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uM_88FfHcIo
― balls, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 21:04 (eleven years ago) link
grimy little pimp
― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 21:07 (eleven years ago) link
i'm not even going to try to articulate this that well but...
there's something about this season, and much of last season, that rubs me the wrong way. i think the show (or its "creator") seems to have been infected by a sense of self-importance (no doubt due to its enshrinement as the cardinal example of contemporary "quality TV"). the result is that too many scenes feel either/both ponderous or/and portentous. too many sequences, lines of dialogue, odd shot combinations feel like they are too obviously angling for exegesis. i wonder what someone coming into the show fresh (although weiner has all but said he's not making the show for such folks) would make of it.
minor note: was surprised that the pete thing came to a head in a single episode.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 21:14 (eleven years ago) link
what is creator in scare quotes?
― balls, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 21:19 (eleven years ago) link
JHVH
― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 21:19 (eleven years ago) link
what what what
― balls, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 21:20 (eleven years ago) link
TBF the portentous quality of some scenes made part of the season premiere very hard to watch.
re. jon hamm's directorial effort: there were a LOT of mismatched shots and continuity errors. watch people's facial expressions, hand positions, etc. between shots. it was distracting. reminds you it ain't easy to direct.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 21:20 (eleven years ago) link
― balls, Tuesday, April 16, 2013 4:19 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
weiner is the "creator" of mad men in most accounts. i put it in scare quotes b/c given all the other input this show has, that job description sometimes feels a bit grandiose.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 21:21 (eleven years ago) link
ARTIST: Any performer, of whatever ability.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 21:22 (eleven years ago) link
weiner's said a few times that one of the things the show is about is the coarsening of american life and that any on the noseness or whatever is deliberate, whether that excuses or not is another question but change in tone toward less subtlety is deliberate.
― balls, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 21:23 (eleven years ago) link
I liked most of last season's episodes: the good ones were quick and trashy. But I'm either bored of Don Draper's schtick or Weiner is. As for these first two episodes, amateurist is right about muddled the scenes and writing are.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 21:25 (eleven years ago) link
i'm assuming affair w/ lindsey weir will end esp disastrously but do find myself hoping it doesn't take til the end of the season.
― balls, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 21:32 (eleven years ago) link
leaving his job to follow Grateful Dead on tour?
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 21:33 (eleven years ago) link
lol just realised lindsey weir's daughter goes to michigan, i wonder if that's deliberate
― balls, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 21:38 (eleven years ago) link
"coarsening of american life"
what does he mean by this
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 21:39 (eleven years ago) link
foreigners, women in positions of power swearing
― Dr. Adorbius (mh), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 21:40 (eleven years ago) link
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist)
The fallacy of cutting NPR funding.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 21:41 (eleven years ago) link
boy if you don't know what he means by that maybe the show is too subtle
― balls, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 21:43 (eleven years ago) link
'men don't wear hats anymore'
― j., Tuesday, 16 April 2013 21:45 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiP1z9qfojA
― balls, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 21:48 (eleven years ago) link
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, April 16, 2013 5:20 PM (27 minutes ago) Bookmark
this is more of an editor thing
― zero dark (s1ocki), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 21:49 (eleven years ago) link
I didn't notice a thing
― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 21:51 (eleven years ago) link
I think the show's specific appeal lies somewhere in between an exegis-demanding portentousness (and is it really so bad to find that element pleasurable?) and a rather lynchian approach to melodrama. I don't think I've ever seen anything that's quite like it.
― ryan, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 21:52 (eleven years ago) link
sopranos on occasion is the only thing i can think of
― balls, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 21:53 (eleven years ago) link
x posts...or the, um, continuity person.
― Sheela-Tubb-Mann, You Real Know-It-All (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 21:54 (eleven years ago) link
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, April 16, 2013 5:39 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Think Weiner covered it with "HERE'S A NEWS FLASH ON THE RADIO ABOUT THE TET OFFENSIVE" shoehorned into Don and Lindsey's post-coital bliss.
― Pope Frank is the messenger of your doom (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 21:55 (eleven years ago) link
I mean the opening episode contains quotations of Dante, yet more drunken barfing, and roger petulantly yelling "it's my funeral" and delivering a pitch perfect 60s style disquisition on existentialism to his shrink. It's great!
― ryan, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 21:56 (eleven years ago) link
"this is more of an editor thing"
yeah, but since every episode has the same set of editors, it's likely hamm wasn't giving them good stuff to work with, no?
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 21:58 (eleven years ago) link
"good stuff" = shots where stuff matched
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 21:59 (eleven years ago) link
tempted to start a draper victims of love poll but suspect midge would run away w/ it
lol at amateurist scoffing at auteurism w/ regards to showrunner but doubling down on it w/ regards to episode director
― balls, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 21:59 (eleven years ago) link
???
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 22:00 (eleven years ago) link
!
― balls, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 22:01 (eleven years ago) link
you really have to explain that. it's snarky but i'm not sure where you find the inconsistency.
if a show that normally does not include mismatched shots that often suddenly includes a burst of them in a single episode, isn't it more likely that it's due to a new element than the same element that has existed since the show began?
or maybe there are new editors
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 22:01 (eleven years ago) link
i mean, i know nobody cares about this stuff, i'm just sort of plagued by noticing mismatches.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 22:03 (eleven years ago) link
i never ever ever notice that stuff myself
― zero dark (s1ocki), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 22:08 (eleven years ago) link
but maybe the continuity guy or gal had a cold that day or something
ballsplaining weiners
― H-E-double-s1ockisticks (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 22:28 (eleven years ago) link
no matter how cinematic a TV show gets I will always think about the writing 8000 times more than the editing, especially on a Cable Drama
― HIGH-FIVES TO ALL MY COWORKERS AT THE QBERT SEX SWING (silby), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 22:53 (eleven years ago) link
I wasn't impressed with this episode either. For some reason halfway I found myself not being engaged the way I normally am with the show. It all seemed so 'flat', two dimensional. I don't know if that's to do with the editing (didn't notice any mismatches myself), it just didn't pull me in like MM normally does. And I really had no complaints about last week whatsoever.
It just wasn't very good. The brothel stuff coming through twice, and a for his standards poorly acting Pete in the scene where his mistress was beaten up... I don't know, it seemed sloppy to me.
I don't like how this Bob guy has been sneaked into the series either. Last week he was getting on everyone's nerves hanging around, and now he's already taking notes for them? Come now.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 23:31 (eleven years ago) link
mad men babies photos accompanying this writeup are hilarious
http://www.grantland.com/blog/hollywood-prospectus/post/_/id/74169/mad-men-episode-2-the-medium-is-the-message-and-the-message-is-cheating-on-his-wife
― balls, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 23:50 (eleven years ago) link