Moneyball won't win the Premiership 2012-13

www.firstrow1.eu always works for me

firstrow has always come up with the goods for me. Got a good nal-toffees one on ch.1 just now

ty

so excited to just be sat at a laptop being able to steal football for the first time in forever while also playing fm

do i need to download a plugin or is it just a shitty ad that will go away telling me to do so?

shitty ad i guess, working on channel 2. ty guyz!

About a dozen shitty ads more like

Good bit of bile brewing here tonight. I've sent my dad along to this weekend's double-header, glad to see it's getting a bit of life about it.

Ross Barkley! It seems like forever.

nice to see u back a hoy

quite enjoying this game

nice to be back :)

Fill us in on your time out. Make it up if you have to.

and lol at Wrighty's new look - early 90s junior civil servant maybe

only caught a glimpse of the panel there before it went to ads, was that noted meme Ed Balls with the newly young Tory Wrighty?

I saw a doc on Ronnie Scott's once that had John Prescott and Ken Clarke punditing together about the place. It has that kind of bipartisan bonhomie to it, yes.

Have been living the dream.

Or alternatively have been mooching off my girlfriend for months, in a fucking horrible dingy single bed hole and have finally moved to somewhere quite nice with my two best friends and I guess the girlfriend has moved in too because she hates that single bed hole. Also i hate my new job but at least I'm like doing stuff and not just sat in my parents house having panic attacks and it makes my cv look better to get a different job.

Why the hell was the ground empty going into injury time? Terrific game.

That sounds like some real Burton/Taylor stuff going on there ahh, congrats.

I hadn't actually noticed quite how close Everton had got to the Champions League places. 0-0 definitely my preferred result all things considered.

It was the kind of game where if either side had squeezed in a jammy winner in injury time, you'd've thought 'yeah, they fully deserved that'.

kinda want a dube

http://thedube.com/images/subcube_01.png

lol at the Everton dube.

They're affordable too - £150ish for the little ones. Endorsed by Courtney Pine too.

you beautiful bastards

i know we have to fuck it up all over again against city and chelsea but i trust in rafa and city might sleep the league away so that was important

Aaaaaand the Premiership has a new Most Dislikeable Club.

A Welsh derby in the EPL next season. Weird.

That equaliser against Everton was a hell of an important goal for you right now

it was then too tbh

the goal we conceded against fulham is the important one tbr

http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=ZLJ8HNsmU9c

fuckin disgraceful sneaky foreigner no respect that for me, right, that for me is worse than breaking a better player's leg brian

late but welcome back a hoy hoy, good you have been living the dream tbh

lukaku has the best goals/minute ratio in the league

they only bring him on when they're about to score it's a malaysian gambling ring ruse

sportingintelligence ‏@sportingintel
@Royaltypoints They WILL benefit. 100% for sure. Confirmed by PL. Clubs relegated this season get NEW rates of parachute.

http://i.imgur.com/ZPvQY6h.gif

Phew

is this still going

Drat!

Wigan more than holding their own here, I reckon you'll get by

luiz goal so boss

Kagawa hits both posts, RVP equalises

Wigan hipster hits bar

Tevez punishes

Man City stepping it up a gear, something about Wigan's fixie, etc etc.

Should I turn over in time for utd's winner, or stay here for wigan's equaliser?

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/67073000/jpg/_67073696_017767976-1.jpg

both poses and portent in this photo remind me of

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e2/Fleetwood_Mac_-_Mirage.jpg/220px-Fleetwood_Mac_-_Mirage.jpg

2 Can't Go Back (Lindsey Buckingham)

oh diame

lol, that's much better

Calling Caek (or anyone else who feels qualified to answer):

How does the offside law work with respect to Van Persie's equaliser last night (which is being described everywhere as an offside the officials failed to spot). If you haven't seen it, here is a basic (and possibly mis-remembered) description: the ball comes to Kagawa who is broadly near the left hand side of the goal, he turns and shoots, the ball deflects slightly off a defender and hits the inside of the left hand post, rolls along the line, hits the right hand post and comes out to Van Persie who shoots in. At the time that Kagawa took the shot, Van Persie was ahead of the last defender. If the ball had gone in off either post, it would have been a goal, yes? But when Van Persie touches it he becomes active and so it should have been offside? Does it make any difference that the ball actually touched the West Ham defender between Kagawa and Van Persie?

Obv I'll defer to caek, but iirc a defender's touch makes all the difference? You conceded one earlier in the season (against us?) where a panicked Jonny Evans put in under pressure from an offside striker. iirc, despite my and pundits' bemusement, it was a good decision - the striker's only active when he touches it, which from your description sounds like it might've been from a west ham touch, hence onside

I don't know where the rule change has come from, but if that's right, it's a terrible rule - how's a defender to know whether to lunge or not?

van Persie gains advantage from being offside when the ball is played forward by Kagawa, i.e. before it touches the opposition defender iirc. he only "becomes" offside once he touches it but i think that's how it works.

agree that the existing interpretation is ridiculous in many ways tho

(xp to ik) I remember the incident you're talking about, but I don't know if that helps us in this situation. In that game: Evans knocked it in, it was an own goal, because the 'offside' striker never became active. If Evans had left it and the striker had knocked it in, it would have been ruled out for offside. But to answer my question, I need to know what would have happened if Evans had touched it and then the striker had knocked it in.

(nv) I think I see what you mean. Probably.