The Shining

Speaking as someone that's in the doc, I see it as in impressionistic document of the Kubrick research subculture. No conclusions, but that's not what the doc intended. For "case building" seek out, the many self-made youtube docs out there. What's funny about all the extreme reactions to the POVs in the film, is that, in the context of Shining research at large, they are among the more mainstream, reasonable approaches (even Weidner!)
The really crazy people didn't make the cut!
I know that all of the narrators in the film enjoyed the finished product, and are all kind of surprised by the negative reaction by some of the audience ... just goes to show that different people can see the same thing very differently. Such is ambiguity!

okay, so were you the moon landing guy

i agree with SD, the film works best if you approach the theories a ride you allow yourself to go along on as long as possible until you circle back and realize "oh god i'm in too deep, how far back was the last logical argument, where am i even anymore"

and "will i ever be able to watch a movie the same way ever again"

xp: lawls, I'm the forwards/backwards guy with the screaming kid who says "like" all the time.

but siriusly ... http://kdk12.tumblr.com/private/40157429425/tumblr_mdm1mzJlgC1qjt9ph

ohhhh. good work with forward backwards show, that was a definite high point.

yeah i big upped you way up thread -- srsly my favorite part of the film

For the record, I was the moon landing guy

I am the minotaur fwiw.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8h_v_our_Q

Forwards/backwards was effing brilliant. You'd think it would be a mess but all the shots they showed were very beautiful.

Just watched the doc, pretty decent quality version up on Piratebay btw.
Interesting stuff.

Now got to watch the film again

disclosure, know the room 237 producer, old friend, but yeah Morbs otm. the point of Room 237 is not to say "here's some stuff you may not have noticed." it's about all this insane shit a bunch of people believe about a movie and imo about how the power of Kubrick's technical facility is so great that some people, seeing it, become convinced that some greater truth has to lie underneath these brilliantly-composed shots

Just watched the doc, pretty decent quality version up on Piratebay btw.

I'll tell my dude, I'm sure he'll be super-stoked

Stoked because that's where he got his Shining footage too?

also tell him that perfect, hi def ripped copies are all over the internet

you're blowing minds there don

seeing the shining in theaters tonight, bringing a notebook and my tinfoil hat

you're blowing minds there don

You're so much smarter than me, and you know, connected because you have a producer bro on "Room 237." Sorry, I forgot.

What is that moon city thing from?

Now got to watch the film again

This is going entirely too far, try Paths of Glory

You're so much smarter than me, and you know, connected because you have a producer bro on "Room 237." Sorry, I forgot.

it's ok, just don't let it happen again

Parts of Paths of Glory were actually filmed on the moon.

that major battle scene v much looks it.

I really enjoyed Room 237 ( and loved the backwards/forwards bits btw). Reminded me again how awesome Kubrick is and how I miss this kind of filmmaking. I was also put in mind of the book "The Making of Kubrick's 2001" which I read obsessively as a kid when I first saw that movie. It kind of does the same thing for 2001 as Room 237 does for The Shining - catalogues tons of stuff you missed and give numerous perspectives on what it's all about. Kubrick put so much thought and effort into the details so it's fun to have it all laid out.

I saw the 237 trailer the other night--doesn't appear to have been posted yet:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gL1fTlH81gU

Obviously I get the connection to the movie, but I'm not sure why a VCR...is it just that the movie came out around the time videos started to take off? Anyway, great trailer.

it's about people going nuts from watching the shining a billion times on vhs. the frame rate is incompatible with human cognition.

Okay--that helps explain a few things about mom.

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/s480x480/485555_472558386147442_923294254_n.jpg

A few doors down the hall; no big deal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsGtXCDu48Y

What is up with the music in Room 237? It's really bad.

whats creepy about that 227 joke is that the other woman is still there behind the curtain

i loved the music in room 237, it fit with the film's whole vibe

Yikes, calstars.

i know a couple of the people who did the music for room 237 (saw it last night) - i thought it was actually a high point of the film - granted it's almost impossible to compare to Bartok, Ligeti, and Penderecki (from the Shining itself) - but I liked it.

I felt like the structure of the documentary was a bit clunky, and the whole thing was too long, and that it didn't go far enough into absurdity.

your mom didn't go far enough into absurdity

please post more enlightening comments! you are such a brilliant poster!

YOU'RE such a brilliant poster

didn't read this thread, but feeling hostile vibes from the most recent two comments. fitting, i think.

i wish we could stay in this thread, forever...and ever...and ever.

xp - one of whom is grady!

whenever i'm in here, and you hear me typing... or whether you DON'T hear me typing, or whatever the FUCK you hear me doing in here, when i'm IN here, that means i am POSTING. THAT means DON'T COME IN.

make a cartoon of that and get very internet famous overnight and then drink to forget you did that

^ warming up the autotune

how much will you pay me to either name the next aerosmith album that or to not do that

haha I will contribute $50 towards that venture

The Shilling

Room 237 is quite something. I'd seen a Jay Weidner film/Q&A two summers ago, so I already knew about all that, but you can definitely become immersed in this film at a level apart from the theories themselves. Keeping the interviews in voiceover was a great decision, and I loved the incorporation of non-Shining clips (mostly but not all from Kubrick films); it sets out to be dreamlike, and I think it is. The impressive thing about the theories is how rarely I found myself thinking, "Oh, please" (the rare egregious example was Ullman's deus ex machina erection). The one I liked best was the idea of "pastness." Not saying I buy any of them, but the theorists pull you in. I also thought the backwards/forwards stuff was a trip--realizing you'd undoubtedly turn up the same amazing juxtapositions with any worthwhile film.

I've seen The Shining enough times by now that I don't think the film will necessarily get any better for me: I'll still love the same things, and still be less enthusiastic about others. But these people are impressive.

the numerology one was my favorite! there were 6 cases of 7-up stacked up in the corridor! And that = 42!!!!

Did that make the film? (I drifted a couple of times.) I know there was 2 x 3 x 7 = 42.