does this season in general feel more heavy-handed than it was previously? or do I deliberately forget these things from previous seasons because I adore all the supposedly minor stuff? like jaguar guy being gross, low class and skeevy.. plus very entertaining & probably a better businessman than the owners of the company right now
― seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Monday, 15 April 2013 02:58 (eleven years ago) link
era infamous for dressing up dishes to give them an erotic veneer
like Don Draper
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 April 2013 03:00 (eleven years ago) link
this bob benson guy, he works on k street right now, doesn't he. i know this guy. he used to work on the hill and then he went to law school, spent some more time working in big law for a while, joined a lobbying firm. he's training for a half marathon this fall and is a nationals season ticket holder, he just sold his condo and bought a house near H St.
― seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Monday, 15 April 2013 03:10 (eleven years ago) link
i like those colored glass partition things in pete's apartment.
― Pat Finn, Monday, 15 April 2013 03:16 (eleven years ago) link
I remember my uncle's house used to have those type of glass partitions, I thought they were very stylish as a kid.
― The last of the famous international Greyjoys (Nicole), Monday, 15 April 2013 03:31 (eleven years ago) link
they're really neat. i'm a sucker for colored glass though.
― Pat Finn, Monday, 15 April 2013 03:44 (eleven years ago) link
Occasionally I forget what a low low low person Peter Campbell can be. Then I get reminded.
"What did you say to him?"
Really, Pete? That was your primary concern?
Anyway, Trudy wins.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 15 April 2013 03:49 (eleven years ago) link
Loved Don's downmarket pitch.
― cougars and sneezers (Eazy), Monday, 15 April 2013 03:51 (eleven years ago) link
pete's a slimeball, it's true. glad trudy is getting herself out of that marriage.
― Pat Finn, Monday, 15 April 2013 03:56 (eleven years ago) link
daaaaamn Joan zinging Herb tho
― HIGH-FIVES TO ALL MY COWORKERS AT THE QBERT SEX SWING (silby), Monday, 15 April 2013 04:11 (eleven years ago) link
otm
― Gukbe, Monday, 15 April 2013 04:12 (eleven years ago) link
very very very soap opera-y this week; watched it with someone who had never seen the show before but works in theater (go figure). her first reaction was "i thought the acting on this show was supposed to be good"
― gr8 tr∞lls i have known (forksclovetofu), Monday, 15 April 2013 04:27 (eleven years ago) link
Good acting is never an accusation one could make about Mad Men in general. From time to time, a particular character will turn in a riveting performance (often that character is Joan), but it's always been stiff.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 15 April 2013 04:31 (eleven years ago) link
kinda agree with that, but i'd say often that character is peggy
― gr8 tr∞lls i have known (forksclovetofu), Monday, 15 April 2013 04:35 (eleven years ago) link
Peggy too, yes. Roger as well, though I think most of that is just John Slattery being John Slattery.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 15 April 2013 04:37 (eleven years ago) link
i always thought january jones brought a unique pathos to the character of betty.
― Pat Finn, Monday, 15 April 2013 04:38 (eleven years ago) link
we all have to readjust every season to the show being soapy, melodramatic, "on the nose", etc
― HIGH-FIVES TO ALL MY COWORKERS AT THE QBERT SEX SWING (silby), Monday, 15 April 2013 04:40 (eleven years ago) link
Maybe, yeah. I'd like to have better reasons to force that stuff down than "theres likely gonna be a good ep near midseason"
― gr8 tr∞lls i have known (forksclovetofu), Monday, 15 April 2013 04:47 (eleven years ago) link
I keep thinking "Oh, [that detail] will probably mean something later on in the season" even though that's almost never the case. This show has so many dangling, never revisited, threads that it's almost comical.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 15 April 2013 04:48 (eleven years ago) link
Pete just can't win at infidelity. Even Harry is pwning his ass.
― Sheela-Tubb-Mann, You Real Know-It-All (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 15 April 2013 08:39 (eleven years ago) link
HARRY I SAID!
pete's terrible sexing preamble. god.
food? drinks?music? ...are you...*waggles eyebrows*...hot enough?
i have no idea how he gets play ever.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 15 April 2013 08:46 (eleven years ago) link
It's the business cards, and the free "Hair" tickets.
― Sheela-Tubb-Mann, You Real Know-It-All (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 15 April 2013 08:51 (eleven years ago) link
Plus I think him having an apartment in NYC makes him seem very glamorous to the ladies in the suburbs.
― The last of the famous international Greyjoys (Nicole), Monday, 15 April 2013 10:59 (eleven years ago) link
a sideburn for each domicile
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 April 2013 11:02 (eleven years ago) link
Pete Campbell's bachelor pad reminded me of Greg Brady's attic room
― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 15 April 2013 16:03 (eleven years ago) link
Don bringin the lolz in the jaguar meeting too
I was really confused by those flashbacks. so he was born in a brothel — mother died in childbirth — dropped off at his father's house — father dies, and he's raised by father's wife and her new husband... then what? where does this scene of tween don in the other brothel come from?
― wk, Monday, 15 April 2013 16:11 (eleven years ago) link
or rather tween dick
― wk, Monday, 15 April 2013 16:12 (eleven years ago) link
he's ref'd his uncle mack before. after his dad dies at the farm, him and his mom move in w/mack at the brothel
― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 15 April 2013 16:28 (eleven years ago) link
not, stepmom I guess
for some reason I remember uncle mack being a preacher or something. did they show them living in a brothel before?
― wk, Monday, 15 April 2013 16:33 (eleven years ago) link
not that I recall. altho yeah I do think Mack has appeared before? can't remember.
― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 15 April 2013 16:42 (eleven years ago) link
Last season he mentioned to the madame of the place they took the first Jaguar guy to that he "grew up in a place like this."
― Sheela-Tubb-Mann, You Real Know-It-All (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 15 April 2013 16:44 (eleven years ago) link
don't like poochie bob benson
― Guy was knee-deep in water (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 15 April 2013 17:12 (eleven years ago) link
I don't think you're meant to, though.
― The last of the famous international Greyjoys (Nicole), Monday, 15 April 2013 17:26 (eleven years ago) link
right, but he strikes me as lazy writing, and I want to think that MW is a better show runner than that but MM is a soap opera, and with full creative control comes the opporotunity for sloppy storytelling
― Guy was knee-deep in water (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 15 April 2013 17:50 (eleven years ago) link
― wk, Monday, April 15, 2013 9:11 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Dick Whitman was born to a prostitute (not his father's wife) on a dirt farm somewhere, mother died in chidlbirth, raised to adolescence by drunk, violent poppa Whitman and his god-fearing wife on the farm. Mrs. Whitman gets with child (Adam), poppa Whitman is kicked to death by a horse, the awkward family moves in with uncle Mac in the brothel. Uncle Mac is married to the pleasant looking woman we meet him with. He screws his dead brother's (?) wife, Mrs. Whitman, as Dick watches through a hole.
― HIGH-FIVES TO ALL MY COWORKERS AT THE QBERT SEX SWING (silby), Monday, 15 April 2013 17:52 (eleven years ago) link
He contains multitudes.
― cougars and sneezers (Eazy), Monday, 15 April 2013 17:54 (eleven years ago) link
I think MW finds way to make Whitman's backstory more sordid and convoluted as time goes on. The moving in to a brothel seems like it was tacked on later on.
― The last of the famous international Greyjoys (Nicole), Monday, 15 April 2013 18:09 (eleven years ago) link
maybe he's trying to explain away his philandering
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 15 April 2013 18:21 (eleven years ago) link
I don't usually complain about "on-the-nose"-ness, I usually like it, but the old "grew up w/ whores and now I give my mistress cash" is a bit pat, no?
― dan selzer, Monday, 15 April 2013 18:21 (eleven years ago) link
That was a real eyeroll inducing moment for me.
― The last of the famous international Greyjoys (Nicole), Monday, 15 April 2013 18:24 (eleven years ago) link
yep
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 15 April 2013 18:25 (eleven years ago) link
yeah feel like that scene of Don giving her money after sex would have worked better without the brothel flashbacks
― dmr, Monday, 15 April 2013 18:45 (eleven years ago) link
definitely
― wk, Monday, 15 April 2013 18:50 (eleven years ago) link
being haunted by ghosts is Don's whole thing though, we gotta see what's on his mind
― HIGH-FIVES TO ALL MY COWORKERS AT THE QBERT SEX SWING (silby), Monday, 15 April 2013 18:50 (eleven years ago) link
series finale: Don has a conversation with Anna in a featureless limbo between worlds, she tells him to believe in himself
― HIGH-FIVES TO ALL MY COWORKERS AT THE QBERT SEX SWING (silby), Monday, 15 April 2013 18:51 (eleven years ago) link
that's like traditional TV making where you have to assume that everyone is just tuning in and watching the show for the first time and "quality nu-cable" tv should be above that kind of thing.
― wk, Monday, 15 April 2013 18:51 (eleven years ago) link
Now that they've used both "Just a Gigolo" and Tobacco Road", I'm half-hoping that "Yankee Rose" pops up over the credits soon.
― Darin, Monday, 15 April 2013 19:42 (eleven years ago) link