Moneyball won't win the Premiership 2012-13

just been catching up with those di canio celebrations, fair play to the guy, i like him in spite of myself.

still, on strictly official terms, for all the obvious reasons, fuck paolo di canio and sunderland afc up the fucking wazoo, as hard as fucking possible, all day long

CUNTSSS

also i hope alain pardieu gets run over by an omnibus

Stoke are going down, I'm calling it.

Stoke worst form in the division since Jan 1 so

don't jinx it

They're only playing (theoretically) relegation threatened teams plus Spurs until the end of the season and I can see QPR, Norwich, Sunderland and Southampton all beating them, or churning out a turgid 0-0 at the very least.

Don't think Villa are one of the three worst teams in the division, but I honestly don't believe that even Stoke or Sunderland have a self-destruct sequence hard-wired into their DNA quite like we do. I mean, I'm quite fond of the lads Baker and Bennett, but crikey if they dont look capable of costing us when it matters most in every single game. I'm banking on those games against Sunderland and Wigan now, it's all in our hands

Wow Stoke have only managed to beat Reading in 2013. That's it.

and everybody beats Reading

Lazy Liverpool zing there.

Stephen Taylor is a fucking nasty piece of work.

Let them whinge about that offside like they shouldnt have been a man down and facing a penalty early in the game.

Jesus three peach goals tho

nakh iirc yr unconvinced by sessegnon. looks a player to me tbh.

sunderland looking alright now sessegnon especially

― Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Saturday, 8 December 2012 15:30 (4 months ago)

this is the only reference i have made to him, also whatever game that happened to be was seemingly the only time this season prior to today sunderland managed to be alright

Sessegnon is inconsistent. He can look like one the best players outside the top six on his day but it hasn't happened much this year. Adam Johnson is still crap, despite his customary wonder goal every few months

meanwhile
http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=E6Afz_UYq3c

might as well put this here too
http://i.minus.com/ibbhA6df6AVg4G.gif

heh

ayooooooooooo

Suuupppp

it took me like five days to read this thread and now i can confirm that di canio was a kinda shitty choice and fuck all else has happened in football in the past two months

Eh saints look intrstin tbf

di canio so far: unfortunate loss to european champions, 3-0 away win at hated rivals

saints have been phenomenal - the EPL finally has its Villareal (if Swansea weren't already - but Soton appear to have more grit)

Match of the Day 2 showed us that the reaction to Paolo has already passed from MASSIVELY CONTROVERSIAL FIGURE to QUITE A CHARACTER INNEE.

The massive controversy was media created and didnt rly take

well everybody loves a fascist

Not at all. Ppl dont give a toss either way id say.

correct me if i'm wrong but fascists do

"fascist- italian nazi wunnit? Bad lot, shoulnt be wunnovem, i reckon, fink paolo oughter stop bein a fascist then e's a good bloke probly got carried away by them dirty fackin rome scum bored of this now what's shearer think good bloke shearer no bullshit"

dude, i feel like you want to imagine a world where speech/thought is absolutely free and therefore free of consequence. i don't want to suggest that every word somebody says is unremoveably tied to an objective truth which equals their unremoveable belief about lyfe, but if i publicly say "person X = vermin" then i've said it, and i've either got to explain in detail why i don't believe that or i have to accept that that's my publicly stated opinion. if people quote me on it, i can either deny it in detail or i'm accepting that's what i believe. if i work with any human beings ever then i have to accept that i've called them vermin if they fall into my original statement.

either you think it's okay for people to work under a boss who denies their own humanity or you don't. if you do, i don't understand how you think there isn't an implicit threat or an implicit prejudice there.

Nah look i dont doubt you believe all that and would absolutely feel the need to explain it yrself or have it explained to you, and look rightly so im not lauding the murkiness of pdc's sidestep. I just amnt so sure football cares, or will do if he starts winning and keeps his nose clean thereafter, yknow?

also im unsure how explicitly he vermined anyone but that could be my memory tbh

i've said before that Paolo's "fascism" has layers of complication but having aligned himself with an ideology that's heavily associated with racism how is it okay for him to work without his employers calling him to account for his racism?

He explicitly stated he's not racist he's fascist! Cmon you know this'll wash if he wins the next one by two goals!

i think he's excused/explained himself about as much as he can/will. just saying that you can't blame people with bad experiences of fascism for refusing to let it go, or dismissing it as banter.

Im not tho, but im hazarding that this will not be a hugely significant faction.

What other current epl managers do we reckon have dodgeologies? Bet pardew has summit juicy

even i will acknowledge the difference between casual Tories and "kill the Jews"

Subtle for a uklxor ime, but ive always liked that abt u.

Big TV deal with NBC being announced in the states today, p excited to finally learn about this "Gary Lineker" character firsthand.

Grant Wahl ‏@GrantWahl 15m

Impressed by scale of NBC PL package: 20 games on NBC, 154 on NBCSN, all 380 live on an NBC platform. Plus 600 hours side-programming.

NBC Sports Soccer ‏@NBCSportsSoccer 6m

UK Footballer and presenter @GaryLineker will serve as a special contributor to #BPLonNBC telecasts as well

http://prosoccertalk.nbcsports.com/2013/04/16/nbc-sports-announces-premier-league-programming-plans/related/

Lineker's a class act, if somewhat unlikeable. Also he'll get taken down for something or other eventually. A Chinese restaurant I used to frequent in Birmingham had a big signed photo of him eating there. There was another celebrity in the shot but I can't remember who it was, I want to say Willie Thorne but it can't have been surely.

lol #BPLonNBC

Lineker is big mates with Willie Thorne iirc

xp Gary Linker and Willie Thorne are best friends.

I knew that, I meant real life surely wouldn't've been so kind as to give me pictorial evidence of the fact. Though now in my mind they were grinning and doing that post-bear-hug thing, while Willie tousles Gary's locks.

obv wouldn't work the other way round

holy shit nbc

will this have knock-ons to our pl coverage/experience?

im thinking at least the quality of streams go up, right

oh and in case you don't check wikipedia thread

At a 2011 gig at the University of East Anglia, Ocean Colour Scene were joined on stage by former footballer Dion Dublin, an amateur percussionist, who accompanied them on The Dube, an instrument he invented.[10][11]

just going to bump a few ilm threads with that factoid too

think it will appeal mostly to fans of xenakis, matthew herbert, mf doom and the housemartins