Shall we anticipate the FIFTH SEASON of the AMC series "Breaking Bad"? I think I may.

there's also arrogance of power - as walt has gained more power he has become less cautious through cockiness. i think he gets off on having that book where someone can see it, hiding in plain sight etc.
not to say that he's not an idiot though :)

Maybe his wife just found it lying around and threw it in the bathroom reading pile?

Or he just forgot about the inscription?

The implausible part about Hank finding the book isn't that Walt would've just let it lay out in the open like that, it's that a house guest would bypass the common bathroom to go use the master bathroom.

Hell, Hank seems like one of those "drive-home-to-take-a-shit" dudes anyway.

otm

Tuomas, the character is developing. He has been through many experiences. He is not permanently meticulous, permanently vigilant, permanently smarter-than. One of the general rules of crime, in fact, is that criminals always slip up. Always. What's harder to believe is how long a guy with no criminal experience would go without making this sort of oversight.

tbf Tuomas has remained steadfast these last five seasons

i bought it because i loved the scene.

It's so great he looked like he was shitting his pants, but he was already on a toilet!

I thought it was great too. I reasoned in my head that if Hank had to go, he's the kind of guy who'd have no problem taking over his brother-in-law's bathroom and shitting in it.

How could Walt be so careless as to just leave it lying around in their toilet?

How could you have watched four and a half seasons of this show without working out that Walt is a hubristic idiot who carelessly fucks up time and time again?

i bought it because i loved the scene.

― turds (Hungry4Ass), Sunday, April 14, 2013 3:30 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah i could barely look at the screen the tension was so high. i was waiting for the kid to drown or for the woman from the corporation to come pop somebody or w/e. leaving the book out seems fairly benign; it's a reasonably elliptical inscription, it wouldn't necessarily be the smoking gun for anybody other than hank, & there's a sweetness to walter reading leaves of grass on the toilet

Walt is a hubristic idiot who carelessly fucks up time and time again

this! I mean, stupid stuff like blowing up that car.. after Hank was about to give up investigating didn't he get drunk and convince him that Gale wasn't the one who knew how to make 99% pure meth.. putting a bug in Hank's office and then going back to remove it was pretty brazen.. almost getting Jesse killed at the end of that train robbery.. telling Declan that Jesse was the other brilliant meth cook seemed like a terrible idea. I always wondered what happens if he ever sees Andrea's kid again because wouldn't the kid possibly recognize him? (did I miss something?) This is without even thinking more than a couple minutes about stuff Walt has done.

believing he could walk away from the meth business - and quit delivering product to a lot of people who had deals with him for millions of dollars for the supply - and keep on living in the same house right there with his whole family in Albuquerque seems incredibly arrogant and stupid to me

can this show come back already

Walt is a hubristic idiot who carelessly fucks up time and time again

word. and he has been shown to be getting cockier and more frustrated the last two seasons consistently too

I always wondered what happens if he ever sees Andrea's kid again because wouldn't the kid possibly recognize him? (did I miss something?)

He did see the kid, but the kid didn't seem to recognize him, so apparently the poison was delivered in some mysterious way that didn't involve Walt personally.

and he has been shown to be getting cockier and more frustrated the last two seasons consistently too

I guess so... But Gale gave him the book as far back as season 3. So I don't get why he didn't get rid of the book immediately after Gale's death, or at the latest when he found out Hank has Gale's notebook and is investigating his death? It's just inconsistent that he meticulously gets rid of the Lily of the Valley and hides the poison capsule (neither of which implicate in him in any crime, unless a person who rarely visits his house happens to see them), but just casually leaves the book (which directly connects him to a dead criminal, and the organization behind him, if a person who visits his house often happens to see it) lying around.

And don't get me wrong, I thought the final scene was pretty cool, and the idea that it was Gale's revenge from beyond the grave was nice... But IMO they could've used some other way to make Hank realize the connection that would've been more consistent with what what has happened before. Unless they do actually reveal Walt wants to get caught, but I doubt that'll happen.

I think the way in which Hank found out was very deliberate. The master criminal foiled by his toilet reading material. It's meant to be a bit ridiculous

He did see the kid, but the kid didn't seem to recognize him, so apparently the poison was delivered in some mysterious way that didn't involve Walt personally.

iirc it seemed that some of Saul's thugs got the ricin pellet from Jesse so he'd think that was the cause, so Saul presumably arranged the actual poisoning too.

Pilot episode of his sitcom iirc.

tuomas' continuing wonderment that movie and tv characters aren't as intelligent as the omniscient observer never fails to amuse me

Er, I wasn't comparing Walt's intelligence to some "omniscient observer", I was comparing it to the intelligence he has shown elsewhere in the series.

most of the series has been Walt somehow weaseling his way out of the consequences for making phenomenally dumb decisions, the first of which was cooking meth

tuomas you seem to have a persistent difficulty in accepting character flaws in fiction

as mh said, if there is ONE consistent thing this show has hammered home, is that walt makes mistakes and bad decisions constantly and consistently, but is smart and wily enough that he manages to stay a pube-hair ahead of them

Solution: pretend ILX is a serialized novel.

xp

"i don't get it, why wouldn't this guy just use google? totally implausible someone would continue to act this way imo"

that implies a significant change in character, imo

He's been through quite a few things which would, you know, change your character.

Jesse Pinkman: Dude this isn't even seven grand alright, my guy wants eighty-five.
Walter H. White: This is all the money I have in the world. You're a drug dealer... negotiate.
Jesse Pinkman: Y-Y-You are not how I remember you from class, I mean like not at all.
Walter H. White: I gotta go.
Jesse Pinkman: Wait wait hold on. Tell me why you are doing this... seriously.
Walter H. White: Why do you do it?
Jesse Pinkman: Money... mainly.
Walter H. White: There you go.
Jesse Pinkman: Nah come on... man, some straight like you giant stick up his ass all of a sudden at age what 60 he's just going to break bad.
Walter H. White: Fifty.
Jesse Pinkman: It's weird is all okay it... it doesn't compute. Listen if you've gone crazy or something. I mean if you've if-if-if you've gone crazy or depressed I'm... I'm just saying that that's something I need to know about. Okay, I mean that that affects me.
Walter H. White: I am... awake.
Jesse Pinkman: What?
Walter H. White: Buy the RV. We start tomorrow.

walter white being labelled 'meticulous' is like buzz lightyear insisting he could fly when woody pointed out he was merely 'falling with style'.

he's meticulous with the one thing he knows about (chemistry) and wrongly things he can generalize his expertise to other things. which is a self-awareness blind spot lots of people, maybe everybody, have to some extent

*thinks

survivor bias plus years of resentment

Walt's not a chemist now, he's a crime boss.

If you don't believe me, just ask him!

pp's eternal master bathroom question answered by the man himself @ 13:13 but then Gilligan totally confuses it about 20 seconds later

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugLkMf6r7rM

i kinda wish that was just conan & odenkirk

Not available in my country >:(
what did it say?

hank's a cylon

Fracking bad

cranston got a BRBA tattoo!

saul spinoff is REAL

how did they answer questions for a whole hour and never mention gus??

probably cuz he wasnt there. skylar didnt come up either!

Mike wandering off to get a beer is hysterical

so the last episodes don't start airing until august! i assumed it'd be early summer.

huh, yeah i thought it'd be right after mad men ends. what's in that gap?

Ah, I'm willing to let them take their time. They're under enormous pressure not to fuck up.

dean norris is gonna be in that mini series they're doing of under the dome, perfect for the role if it's who i think it is. betsy brandt's gonna be on that michael j fox show. anna gunn's filming something that definitely sounds like a pilot. cranston and paul are focusing on movies it looks like.

I've been thinking about the season 5 opener.

One reason Walt might have a fake ID with his real birthday on it would be if he's in a witness protection program.

That's a really interesting theory. If this is the case I assume it would be Hank's doing. So Walt is coming back with an ak47 for.....JESSE??