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problem is it eats one of your emissaries which is the same result the more proactive answers to reckoner already have

ciderpress, Tuesday, 9 April 2013 21:29 (thirteen years ago)

i enjoy the demographic of this thread. i'm right there with y'all (87)

modern magic art is generally dreadful, i think, but i also agree that land art has become progressively more stunning. love the foglios tho

cocktail onion (fennel cartwright), Wednesday, 10 April 2013 00:46 (thirteen years ago)

That must be the sweet spot for magic players, it was just starting up around the age where you guys might start nurturing a card collecting addiction. I'm super old so I was focused on buying baseball and Star Wars cards as a kid. Couldn't do much with those though. By the time mtg came around, I was graduating from high school and more interested in sex, drugs, and rock n roll.

Only now that I'm rapidly approaching middle age with a kid of my own am I able to return to my childhood love of games and trading cards.

Moodles, Wednesday, 10 April 2013 00:55 (thirteen years ago)

also iunno... all things considered the new spoilers don't really look too broken? the instant wurm is sweet but probably on the same power level as resto anyways. i think it'll be a balanced set when all is said and done.

cocktail onion (fennel cartwright), Wednesday, 10 April 2013 06:19 (thirteen years ago)

i like exava a lot. not sure where she's better than hellrider or falkenrath aristocrat yet but at least she'll be around longer in standard

ciderpress, Wednesday, 10 April 2013 06:41 (thirteen years ago)

i think they're saving some stuff

frogbs, Wednesday, 10 April 2013 13:35 (thirteen years ago)

feeling a little underwhelmed by Exava, think I like the deathtouch dude more

Moodles, Wednesday, 10 April 2013 13:45 (thirteen years ago)

Exava looks sweet. She is better than Hellrider on an empty board, and better than Falkenrath Aristocrat against decks with Tragic Slip, though probably worse than either overall. In her favor, first strike is very relevant right now, but being Legendary hurts. After rotation, I think she'll get played.

Lavinia just got spoiled too. Interesting ETB effect, wonder if she has combo potential?

Vinnie, Wednesday, 10 April 2013 14:05 (thirteen years ago)

Lavinia seems pretty nice, protection against red is interesting

Moodles, Wednesday, 10 April 2013 14:12 (thirteen years ago)

apparently the flavor texts on the RTR and GTC guildgates have certain letters with slightly raised flavor text, and if you put them together and read them vertically they read "THE GUILDS OF RAVNICA" in RTR and "WILL DESTROY EACH OTHER" in GTC. sounds like a crackpot theory but if you have any guildgates by you check it out, this is actually for real

frogbs, Wednesday, 10 April 2013 14:17 (thirteen years ago)

the dragons maze ones have raised letters too but we haven't seen all 10 yet

ciderpress, Wednesday, 10 April 2013 14:50 (thirteen years ago)

can't wait to scoop to t5 lavinia dozens of times in standard over the next year and a half...

ciderpress, Wednesday, 10 April 2013 14:54 (thirteen years ago)

just when you resolved to commit yourself to mono red

frogbs, Wednesday, 10 April 2013 15:09 (thirteen years ago)

ehh i don't think she's better vs mono-red than just aggro in general. can always add a land or 2 and break out the thundermaw hellkites again. also i can see people using her as a falter on a stick in UW geist aggro decks too

ciderpress, Wednesday, 10 April 2013 15:30 (thirteen years ago)

Trostani's Summoner
5GW
Creature - Elf Shaman
When Trostani's Summoner enters the battlefield, put a 2/2 white Knight creature token with vigilance, a 3/3 green Centaur creature token, and a 4/4 green Rhino creature token with trample onto the battlefield.
1/1

uncommon. this seems pretty fun

ciderpress, Wednesday, 10 April 2013 16:42 (thirteen years ago)

BRING BACK REVELLARK!!

frogbs, Wednesday, 10 April 2013 16:42 (thirteen years ago)

we already have restoration angel and unburial rites, don't be greedy

ciderpress, Wednesday, 10 April 2013 16:44 (thirteen years ago)

I like that card

iatee, Wednesday, 10 April 2013 16:46 (thirteen years ago)

also that cycle of 2/4 commons that marshall previewed in the limited article is going to do a ton of work towards slowing the format down, i think. not only do they block most of the aggro cards in both RTR and GTC, they also make you want to play multiple ETB-tapped lands in your decks, since getting the trigger on any of them is pretty huge. red one is probably the worst, black probably the best.

ciderpress, Wednesday, 10 April 2013 17:21 (thirteen years ago)

not to mention that 2-color decks basically won't be viable unless you want your deck to be real diluted

frogbs, Wednesday, 10 April 2013 17:36 (thirteen years ago)

well yeah but the worry was that the format would still be tempo-ey due to all the gatecrash aggro cards and detain/unleash, this cycle is the type of thing i want to see if it's gonna be more ponderous like it should be (tempo-ey 3-color just means lots of unfun manascrew deaths and such)

ciderpress, Wednesday, 10 April 2013 17:39 (thirteen years ago)

http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/tcg/products/dgm/tiwoirwiixix/inoog6pejv_EN.jpg

rad art, crap card

iatee, Wednesday, 10 April 2013 18:50 (thirteen years ago)

yeah her old card was a lot more interesting for constructed. this one's still a fine board control card in limited and maybe very specific block or standard matchups but it's not too exciting

also flavor-wise i'm not sure why a human with a crippled leg is a 4/4 vigilance

ciderpress, Wednesday, 10 April 2013 18:53 (thirteen years ago)

I'm thinking Boros/Azorious can be real nasty if it gets the right cards (Gore-House and Lyev Skynight, for example) - it would be slower then GTC Boros but it would have flyers. I guess we'll see if DGM has any more 3-power 2CC dudes.

frogbs, Wednesday, 10 April 2013 20:35 (thirteen years ago)

ooh, I like Varolz

Moodles, Thursday, 11 April 2013 04:20 (thirteen years ago)

http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/daily/td/td242_4_juhna278zk.jpg

this is v strong

iatee, Thursday, 11 April 2013 13:43 (thirteen years ago)

yeah that card is nuts

ciderpress, Thursday, 11 April 2013 14:20 (thirteen years ago)

not only does it kill everything without hexproof, and that includes annoying stuff like thragtusk or undying creatures not coming back, you can also probably 2-for-1 with it a fair amount of the time if you have a creature on board to block the 0/1

ciderpress, Thursday, 11 April 2013 14:23 (thirteen years ago)

takes away Boros Reckoner's damage redirect too

Moodles, Thursday, 11 April 2013 14:25 (thirteen years ago)

yeah that falls under annoying creatures for sure

the 1B dark confidant riff is pretty good too, should see play in aggressive black decks. other stuff from last night not as exciting though i do like the 7/5 mana flare and the 6/4 hand destroyer.

ciderpress, Thursday, 11 April 2013 14:27 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah Turn/Burn is gonna be a format staple. Very versatile card, and I'm very glad it exists as an answer to Thrag and Reckoner and cards like that.

Not sure how to evaluate Blood Scrivener at all! Seems very powerful (I think multiples even stack!) but are there any aggro decks that routinely have zero cards in hand? It's so easy to get caught with extra lands or removal spells.

Vinnie, Thursday, 11 April 2013 14:33 (thirteen years ago)

Also I'm wondering whether Blood Scrivener and Rot Farm Skeleton are references to the original Rav mechanics. Maybe there will be cycle of them.

Vinnie, Thursday, 11 April 2013 14:35 (thirteen years ago)

the insanity demon thing is definitely an intentional hellbent enabler so there's 2 already

ciderpress, Thursday, 11 April 2013 14:38 (thirteen years ago)

I'm not sure who exactly would want the Scrivener - seems risky and you're just asking to get blown away by Supreme Verdict. Still it's awesome how with everything DGM has to do anyway that they're even referencing the old Rav mechanics.

The Zur-Thaa Ancient seems pretty crazy. Like when you think "7/5 mana flare" you assume it's costed at seven. Five mana is pretty nuts for that. Obzedat's return feels like it'll usher in a whole new era of stupid Omniscience decks.

frogbs, Thursday, 11 April 2013 14:42 (thirteen years ago)

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/555095_516886555034770_1207458033_n.jpg

this might be pretty good in a funky 4/5c deck

iatee, Thursday, 11 April 2013 17:19 (thirteen years ago)

yeah i'm always a fan of uncommon build-around-me enchantments for draft

i drafted a crackling perimeter deck last night but it was terrible. going to try again in full block draft at some point probably

ciderpress, Thursday, 11 April 2013 17:27 (thirteen years ago)

it might be marginally better if someone can realistically expect 5 gates and a v. controlly deck

iatee, Thursday, 11 April 2013 17:30 (thirteen years ago)

Varolz is going to be pretty excellent with Death's Shadow/Phyrexian Dreadnought. C'mon someone's got to build this deck

frogbs, Thursday, 11 April 2013 20:19 (thirteen years ago)

people were already buying up all those cards last night from what i hear

ciderpress, Thursday, 11 April 2013 20:20 (thirteen years ago)

the BG/GR split card works with those too, you can make a 15/15 and dome your opponent for 15 or whatever

ciderpress, Thursday, 11 April 2013 20:21 (thirteen years ago)

they're blasting the guild champions out pretty fast, we're only missing GW and WR now right? and i think the GW is in the development article tonight. meanwhile we've gotten almost no mythics. weird spoiler season when the flagship cards aren't mythic

ciderpress, Thursday, 11 April 2013 20:27 (thirteen years ago)

The champions were originally supposed to be mythics but they didn't have enough mythic rare slots in the set to make that happen so they got changed to rare.

Moodles, Thursday, 11 April 2013 20:51 (thirteen years ago)

i think the selesnya mythic is the best card spoiled yet:

http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/tcg/products/dgm/tiwoirwiixix/u1gpj8j2ko_EN.jpg

it's just a card advantage machine and what more does one want

cocktail onion (fennel cartwright), Friday, 12 April 2013 04:18 (thirteen years ago)

holy cow that thing is really fuckin good

frogbs, Friday, 12 April 2013 04:55 (thirteen years ago)

thats the two drop i wanted for bant delver right?

Reggie (Lamp), Friday, 12 April 2013 05:12 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah some really good stuff got spoiled today. The mythic is insane, it's gonna be a 4-of in many decks. Basically Thragtusk for aggro decks. Can't imagine the floor on that card being less than $20 for a long time. Putrefy will obv be played if shit like Murder is seeing play. Far/Away seems like it has its uses - control decks often want effects that can be played early but get better later on. Even Council of the Absolute may get played. This set is looking like a high value set so far.

Vinnie, Friday, 12 April 2013 12:39 (thirteen years ago)

Maro did hint that there would be some high-profile reprints in DGM and somehow I doubt that Putrefy is the only one. Lightning Helix or bust!!

frogbs, Friday, 12 April 2013 13:13 (thirteen years ago)

that mythic is comparable to grand abolisher, a card that was around for a year and saw a reasonable amount of play in standard aggro decks. it's a bit worse because it doesn't lock your opponent out completely on your turn but also a bit better because it leaves the keldon warlord token behind. i think it's gonna be a bit overhyped relative to how much play it will see but it's certainly a good card and possibly eternal format playable too in GW hatebear type decks

ciderpress, Friday, 12 April 2013 13:16 (thirteen years ago)

there's no way they're putting lightning helix in the same standard as boros charm and snapcaster unless they basically want to shout from the rooftops "we want UWR tempo to be the dominant deck like delver/cawblade"

ciderpress, Friday, 12 April 2013 13:17 (thirteen years ago)

http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/tcg/products/dgm/tiwoirwiixix/5prumpmiw3_EN.jpg

this card is going to be super awkward

ciderpress, Friday, 12 April 2013 13:25 (thirteen years ago)


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