i know it's way premature, but this is feeling a bit off - not as confident in itself or something.
Agreed, the writing didn't seem as sharp as usual.― DavidM, Monday, April 8, 2013
And a real paucity of new ideas; lotta retread miles now. I imagine quality is gonna veer from meh to wow as it did last season.
― I offer about as much diversity as a saltine cracker. (forksclovetofu), Monday, 8 April 2013 17:29 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, a lot of the scenes in this opener seemed very familiar; they're just spinning the wheels at this point. I did like the Hawaiian prologue, though.
― DavidM, Monday, 8 April 2013 17:35 (eleven years ago) link
the doc skiing through the streets of Manhattan was a nice little weird scene
― dmr, Monday, 8 April 2013 17:36 (eleven years ago) link
I thought it was weird that they'd introduce all these new characters...like there weren't already enough that could be developed? I kept yelling "I don't care about sally's violin playing friend, isn't there more growing sally needs to do?"
― dan selzer, Monday, 8 April 2013 17:39 (eleven years ago) link
sally was on fire though, love her whole surly teen thing
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 8 April 2013 17:40 (eleven years ago) link
well they can't have Sally running away in the first episode of the season
― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 8 April 2013 17:40 (eleven years ago) link
what year is it?
― ❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Monday, 8 April 2013 17:41 (eleven years ago) link
Presumably xmas 1967.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 8 April 2013 17:41 (eleven years ago) link
Yes.
― jaymc, Monday, 8 April 2013 17:42 (eleven years ago) link
That was Linda Cardellini. I'm always happy to see her in anything.
― Johnny Fever, Sunday, April 7, 2013 11:34 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Looking forward to Don singing Styx' "Lady" to her.
― Pope Frank is the messenger of your doom (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 8 April 2013 17:42 (eleven years ago) link
lolol
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 8 April 2013 17:42 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-Royal-Hawaiian-Hotel-A-Sheraton-Hotel-Waikiki-HI-Honolulu-Co-Postcard-/200719212104
― ❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Monday, 8 April 2013 17:43 (eleven years ago) link
Don takes Linda Cardellini down to the basement to show her his amazing Neal Peart drumkit
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 8 April 2013 17:43 (eleven years ago) link
loved the scene where they asked the SCDP creative guy (Stan?) whether the Hawaii ad made him think of death: "Yeah man, that's why it was so AWESOME."
Stan is becoming my favorite character.
― The last of the famous international Greyjoys (Nicole), Monday, 8 April 2013 17:43 (eleven years ago) link
Stan and Ginsberg are so good, I love them
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 8 April 2013 17:44 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-Sheraton-Hotels-Hawaii-Bikini-Girl-on-Beach-Ad-/400456845355?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d3d16882b
― ❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Monday, 8 April 2013 17:44 (eleven years ago) link
curious about the new woman in the creative room tbh
― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 8 April 2013 17:50 (eleven years ago) link
I spent most of the episode thinking that Bob was pretending to work for SCDP
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, April 8, 2013 10:09 AM (35 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I never legitimately thought this was what was going on, but I sure thought it would be hilarious if it were.
― HIGH-FIVES TO ALL MY COWORKERS AT THE QBERT SEX SWING (silby), Monday, 8 April 2013 18:46 (eleven years ago) link
Sally on fire otm. Did she have any spotlight time in s1 that suggested she'd become a central character, or did it all just grow out of Kiernan Shipka being pretty great at this?
― HIGH-FIVES TO ALL MY COWORKERS AT THE QBERT SEX SWING (silby), Monday, 8 April 2013 18:49 (eleven years ago) link
Surprised nobody's complained about how "on the nose" using the opening lines of Inferno was.
― HIGH-FIVES TO ALL MY COWORKERS AT THE QBERT SEX SWING (silby), Monday, 8 April 2013 18:50 (eleven years ago) link
Roger in therapy was brilliant and fits his character arc.
Betty rape thing was wtf but pretty funny too. I felt it was a bit of a stretch that Betty's new man would fancy such a young looking person, maybe badly cast if she was meant to be at the cusp of adulthood.
And agree about Glen. Really funny.
The whole pitch Don made was funny too.
Good return IMO, I don't expect much to happen and it didn't.
Is there some gay subplot coming with Don's doctor buddy?
― Tioc Norris (LocalGarda), Monday, 8 April 2013 18:50 (eleven years ago) link
the bobby swapping in this series is becoming hilarious
I hope they start doing it mid-episode
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 8 April 2013 18:52 (eleven years ago) link
Jew doctor basically looks like Matt Weiner, wonder if he wanted to cast himself
― HIGH-FIVES TO ALL MY COWORKERS AT THE QBERT SEX SWING (silby), Monday, 8 April 2013 18:53 (eleven years ago) link
I felt it was a bit of a stretch that Betty's new man would fancy such a young looking person
this is a guy who perved out on pregnant Betty so I dunno, him being into it seemed more natural than Betty being into some rape-play
― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 8 April 2013 18:55 (eleven years ago) link
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, April 8, 2013 2:52 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
They should do it mid-shot. Have another actor tap "Bobby" on the shoulder and switch places.
― Pope Frank is the messenger of your doom (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 8 April 2013 18:57 (eleven years ago) link
I mostly felt Betty's rape thing was an ill-advised joke, but I suppose they were trying to tell us she's insane.
Betty in the city had a bit of a fanciful cartoonish element to it, like a kind of unlikely and brief subplot.
I guess that storyline is reminding us that Betty is a child herself and needs children as friends, yet again!
― Tioc Norris (LocalGarda), Monday, 8 April 2013 19:00 (eleven years ago) link
?? Mason Vale Cotton is still Bobby:http://instagram.com/p/X01y1_HrCy
― jaymc, Monday, 8 April 2013 19:08 (eleven years ago) link
The dialogue in this episode may have been the most stilted and heavy-handed since the pilot. Don's reactions during his failing pitch were also out of character.
I hope the rest of the season isn't like this.
― DavidM, Monday, 8 April 2013 19:29 (eleven years ago) link
idk, Don didn't seem out of character inamuch as Hawaii and the soldier really threw him for a loop, I mean, he seemed very much like that vaguely haunted Don of the first season reading his Frank O Hara and going to movies by himself
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 8 April 2013 19:32 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah I agree, plus his shitty pitch was evidence of further decline. Puking at a funeral was out of character too but this is Don as of now.
― Tioc Norris (LocalGarda), Monday, 8 April 2013 19:52 (eleven years ago) link
agree about the heavy-handedness and clunkiness - Roger going to a shrink for no reason but MONOLOGUES!, Peggy's bearded boyfriend saying, "It's about time commerce was interrupted by this unjust war!" just in case you didn't get it yet. Or Betty's visit to the hippie squat from "Go Ask Alice". Half-expected someone to jump out the window high on acid thinking they could fly in that joint.
― brio, Monday, 8 April 2013 19:57 (eleven years ago) link
guy carrying a stolen tv down the street was a little much
― I offer about as much diversity as a saltine cracker. (forksclovetofu), Monday, 8 April 2013 20:02 (eleven years ago) link
At first I thought she'd stumbled onto the East Village Motherfuckers, but they were far too placid.
Still holding out hope that one of the characters will run into John & Yoko on Bank St.
― Pope Frank is the messenger of your doom (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 8 April 2013 20:03 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah! It should have ended with Betty jamming with the Fugs.
― brio, Monday, 8 April 2013 20:06 (eleven years ago) link
what if violin girl was a lost shagg
― I offer about as much diversity as a saltine cracker. (forksclovetofu), Monday, 8 April 2013 20:10 (eleven years ago) link
She sold her violin, but became...PATTY WATERS!
― Pope Frank is the messenger of your doom (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 8 April 2013 20:11 (eleven years ago) link
Roger going to a shrink for no reason but MONOLOGUES!
roger going to a shrink is perfectly in line with how things have been going for him. it's the same reason he did acid and was doing yoga naked at the end of s5, cos he's trying anything and everything to get a new perspective on his spoiled and increasingly boring existence.
― Tioc Norris (LocalGarda), Monday, 8 April 2013 20:16 (eleven years ago) link
sure but it's also perfectly in line with the Sopranos already did that
― brio, Monday, 8 April 2013 20:20 (eleven years ago) link
it's the same reason he did acid and was doing yoga naked
p sure that was him doing acid naked
― ❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Monday, 8 April 2013 20:28 (eleven years ago) link
oh this got a lol from me
― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 8 April 2013 20:29 (eleven years ago) link
it's the same reason he did acid
he's not married to Jane anymore
― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 8 April 2013 20:30 (eleven years ago) link
xp me too, Shakey.
― HIGH-FIVES TO ALL MY COWORKERS AT THE QBERT SEX SWING (silby), Monday, 8 April 2013 21:18 (eleven years ago) link
Mad Men: Nothing happens, twice eighty times
― HIGH-FIVES TO ALL MY COWORKERS AT THE QBERT SEX SWING (silby), Monday, 8 April 2013 21:19 (eleven years ago) link
the other thing Betty-in-the-city reminded me of was Fritz the Cat lol
they shoulda gone all Bakshi live+animation combo for that haha
― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 8 April 2013 21:45 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i mean it's true, roger sterling and tony soprano are almost identical as characters.
― Tioc Norris (LocalGarda), Monday, 8 April 2013 21:53 (eleven years ago) link
btw couldn't help thinking peggy's bf is now like steve coogan with a tash
― Tioc Norris (LocalGarda), Monday, 8 April 2013 21:55 (eleven years ago) link
I was thinking Zappa
― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 8 April 2013 21:55 (eleven years ago) link
Ditto re: Zappa
― cacao nibs (Eric H.), Monday, 8 April 2013 21:56 (eleven years ago) link
mommy issues, serially infidelities, near psychopathic commitment to materialism/acquisition of wealth eh I can see some parallels
― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 8 April 2013 21:56 (eleven years ago) link
They're not at all identical - but they are both amoral, id-driven, selfish leaders who seem completely self-assured and acting on instinct, so it's the same premise to put them in a shrink's office and force them to give introspective monologues...
Besides it just feels familiar - especially as Weiner worked on The Sopranos. I can totally imagine the "you open doors and cross bridges there's nothing but more doors and bridges" coming from Tony's mouth.
― brio, Monday, 8 April 2013 22:12 (eleven years ago) link