That was Linda Cardelllini, she just had a ton of make-up on.
― Vol. 3: The Life & Times of E. "Boom" Carter (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 8 April 2013 16:07 (eleven years ago) link
the comedian referenced in tonight's Mad Men episode is Milt Kamen. He was on with guest host Phyllis Diller on 12/22/67.
Milt Kamen might have been on that episode, but he didn't tell that joke:
The Tonight Show episode that the characters reference on the episode is very real: A quick look through TV Guide Magazine's archives proves that Phyllis Diller did indeed guest host for Johnny Carson on Friday, Dec. 22, 1967. "Johnny does not host during the holidays," Weiner notes. "We actually had a line, cut for time, in which Peggy asked her co-worker if Phyllis invited the comedian to sit over on the couch." Weiner wanted to stress the cultural impact of The Tonight Show at the time and why a joke on the show would cause Peggy's client to freak out. "I can't even explain it to young people what a universal experience it was [when] people watched [Tonight]," Weiner says.But here's the creative license: Weiner says he doesn't actually have evidence of a comedian on that Diller-hosted Tonight Show making such a joke about the war. "I hope it's not disappointing to people," Weiner says. "This is based on reality but the scenario is not real. The court martial really happened and there really was this event. And there were quite a few instances of comedians talking about the war on The Tonight Show and clients being very upset."
But here's the creative license: Weiner says he doesn't actually have evidence of a comedian on that Diller-hosted Tonight Show making such a joke about the war. "I hope it's not disappointing to people," Weiner says. "This is based on reality but the scenario is not real. The court martial really happened and there really was this event. And there were quite a few instances of comedians talking about the war on The Tonight Show and clients being very upset."
― jaymc, Monday, 8 April 2013 16:09 (eleven years ago) link
that was not Linda Cardellini guys come on
I didn't recognize her at all, but her name was in the credits.
She's also 37 IRL, so kid-in-college isn't inconceivable.
― jaymc, Monday, 8 April 2013 16:11 (eleven years ago) link
it was totally linda and she was gr8
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 8 April 2013 16:12 (eleven years ago) link
wow that is crazy
― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 8 April 2013 16:24 (eleven years ago) link
funny how we were just complaining about her shitty post F&G career
― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 8 April 2013 16:25 (eleven years ago) link
pretty good episode. man 2 hours is a lot to take in. loved the scene where they asked the SCDP creative guy (Stan?) whether the Hawaii ad made him think of death: "Yeah man, that's why it was so AWESOME."
what was with that scene between Betty and Henry in bed after the girl played the violin?! just go hold her arms down and put a rag in her mouth. wtf was supposed to be going through Betty's head when she said that stuff
― dmr, Monday, 8 April 2013 16:32 (eleven years ago) link
yeah that was pretty jaw dropping, Betty's bizarre-o rape fantasy
― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 8 April 2013 16:33 (eleven years ago) link
was I the only one thinking of this ridiculous movie during Betty's search for violin girl
― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 8 April 2013 16:34 (eleven years ago) link
thought it was clever structure that the opening quick flash of the heart attack made you think "is Don dead?" during the first part of the Hawaii sequence (plus he didn't speak for like the first 15 minutes). then he presents the ad and you see that while he was in Hawaii Don was thinking "am I dead?"
― dmr, Monday, 8 April 2013 16:36 (eleven years ago) link
"I smell creativity in here"
― dmr, Monday, 8 April 2013 16:37 (eleven years ago) link
Betty's weirdo rapey chat with Henry notwithstanding, I thought the creepiest bit was Harry perving on Roger's daughter.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 8 April 2013 16:37 (eleven years ago) link
roger in analysis is a gold mine for lols this season
― johnny crunch, Monday, 8 April 2013 16:40 (eleven years ago) link
it made me wonder why Roger would even begin analysis in the first place, absent somebody browbeating him into it
― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 8 April 2013 16:42 (eleven years ago) link
but yeah it does bring the lolz
otm to daria way upthread -- totally getting major Don vibes from Peggy's input with the creatives
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 8 April 2013 16:43 (eleven years ago) link
yes I love Rog in analysis
a gif of Peggy's underlings doing their "Three Ideas" needs to happen.
― Vol. 3: The Life & Times of E. "Boom" Carter (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 8 April 2013 16:45 (eleven years ago) link
lol
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 8 April 2013 16:46 (eleven years ago) link
this bob fellow
what is his deal
can't decide if he's just a sad kiss-ass or if his ambition will make him do something really nasty to someone
― dmr, Monday, 8 April 2013 16:51 (eleven years ago) link
thought it was interesting that, after Ken browbeats him in front of the secretary, he doesn't lash out at her to try and regain his dominance like, say, Pete might have back in the day.
― a sentimental knife (reddening), Monday, 8 April 2013 17:07 (eleven years ago) link
I spent most of the episode thinking that Bob was pretending to work for SCDP
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 8 April 2013 17:09 (eleven years ago) link
loved betty in the big city.
― Chuck E was a hero to most (s.clover), Monday, 8 April 2013 17:18 (eleven years ago) link
i know it's way premature, but this is feeling a bit off - not as confident in itself or something.
Agreed, the writing didn't seem as sharp as usual.
― DavidM, Monday, 8 April 2013 17:21 (eleven years ago) link
also yeah I could not get over Betty's insane rape comment, she just kept going and going with it! look forward to someone trying to do a thorough analysis of it as it relates to the rest of Betty's plotline this ep.
― a sentimental knife (reddening), Monday, 8 April 2013 17:25 (eleven years ago) link
Agreed, the writing didn't seem as sharp as usual.― DavidM, Monday, April 8, 2013
And a real paucity of new ideas; lotta retread miles now. I imagine quality is gonna veer from meh to wow as it did last season.
― I offer about as much diversity as a saltine cracker. (forksclovetofu), Monday, 8 April 2013 17:29 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, a lot of the scenes in this opener seemed very familiar; they're just spinning the wheels at this point. I did like the Hawaiian prologue, though.
― DavidM, Monday, 8 April 2013 17:35 (eleven years ago) link
the doc skiing through the streets of Manhattan was a nice little weird scene
― dmr, Monday, 8 April 2013 17:36 (eleven years ago) link
I thought it was weird that they'd introduce all these new characters...like there weren't already enough that could be developed? I kept yelling "I don't care about sally's violin playing friend, isn't there more growing sally needs to do?"
― dan selzer, Monday, 8 April 2013 17:39 (eleven years ago) link
sally was on fire though, love her whole surly teen thing
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 8 April 2013 17:40 (eleven years ago) link
well they can't have Sally running away in the first episode of the season
― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 8 April 2013 17:40 (eleven years ago) link
what year is it?
― ❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Monday, 8 April 2013 17:41 (eleven years ago) link
Presumably xmas 1967.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 8 April 2013 17:41 (eleven years ago) link
Yes.
― jaymc, Monday, 8 April 2013 17:42 (eleven years ago) link
That was Linda Cardellini. I'm always happy to see her in anything.
― Johnny Fever, Sunday, April 7, 2013 11:34 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Looking forward to Don singing Styx' "Lady" to her.
― Pope Frank is the messenger of your doom (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 8 April 2013 17:42 (eleven years ago) link
lolol
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 8 April 2013 17:42 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-Royal-Hawaiian-Hotel-A-Sheraton-Hotel-Waikiki-HI-Honolulu-Co-Postcard-/200719212104
― ❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Monday, 8 April 2013 17:43 (eleven years ago) link
Don takes Linda Cardellini down to the basement to show her his amazing Neal Peart drumkit
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 8 April 2013 17:43 (eleven years ago) link
loved the scene where they asked the SCDP creative guy (Stan?) whether the Hawaii ad made him think of death: "Yeah man, that's why it was so AWESOME."
Stan is becoming my favorite character.
― The last of the famous international Greyjoys (Nicole), Monday, 8 April 2013 17:43 (eleven years ago) link
Stan and Ginsberg are so good, I love them
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 8 April 2013 17:44 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-Sheraton-Hotels-Hawaii-Bikini-Girl-on-Beach-Ad-/400456845355?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d3d16882b
― ❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Monday, 8 April 2013 17:44 (eleven years ago) link
curious about the new woman in the creative room tbh
― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 8 April 2013 17:50 (eleven years ago) link
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, April 8, 2013 10:09 AM (35 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I never legitimately thought this was what was going on, but I sure thought it would be hilarious if it were.
― HIGH-FIVES TO ALL MY COWORKERS AT THE QBERT SEX SWING (silby), Monday, 8 April 2013 18:46 (eleven years ago) link
Sally on fire otm. Did she have any spotlight time in s1 that suggested she'd become a central character, or did it all just grow out of Kiernan Shipka being pretty great at this?
― HIGH-FIVES TO ALL MY COWORKERS AT THE QBERT SEX SWING (silby), Monday, 8 April 2013 18:49 (eleven years ago) link
Surprised nobody's complained about how "on the nose" using the opening lines of Inferno was.
― HIGH-FIVES TO ALL MY COWORKERS AT THE QBERT SEX SWING (silby), Monday, 8 April 2013 18:50 (eleven years ago) link
Roger in therapy was brilliant and fits his character arc.
Betty rape thing was wtf but pretty funny too. I felt it was a bit of a stretch that Betty's new man would fancy such a young looking person, maybe badly cast if she was meant to be at the cusp of adulthood.
And agree about Glen. Really funny.
The whole pitch Don made was funny too.
Good return IMO, I don't expect much to happen and it didn't.
Is there some gay subplot coming with Don's doctor buddy?
― Tioc Norris (LocalGarda), Monday, 8 April 2013 18:50 (eleven years ago) link
the bobby swapping in this series is becoming hilarious
I hope they start doing it mid-episode
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 8 April 2013 18:52 (eleven years ago) link
Jew doctor basically looks like Matt Weiner, wonder if he wanted to cast himself
― HIGH-FIVES TO ALL MY COWORKERS AT THE QBERT SEX SWING (silby), Monday, 8 April 2013 18:53 (eleven years ago) link
I felt it was a bit of a stretch that Betty's new man would fancy such a young looking person
this is a guy who perved out on pregnant Betty so I dunno, him being into it seemed more natural than Betty being into some rape-play
― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 8 April 2013 18:55 (eleven years ago) link