salon vs. slate vs. atlantic

oh poliopaws

i've been loving the foreignpolicy sister site bunches

bunches? that's a cute name for a site!

hello giggles!

Foriegn Policy magazine? That's an actual print magazine led by respectable authors, thinkers, and policymakers. Foreign Policy is not a "click-bait"-style journal. I don't put Slate in the same league as that, although at one point maybe 10 years ago, Slate was closer to being in the ballpark.

owned by slate tho

Slate is owned by the Washington Post, I believe.

foreign policy is one of those things where it's interesting to read *because* the ppl reading it are "respectable" but i hate most of what i've ever read in it, the perspective is so shamelessly fukuyama

"slate group"

Slate Group is owned by the Post. But regardless, I don't see much in common between Slate and FP-- just a convenient cross-marketing opportunity.

I read Thomas Ricks's blog on FP (ricks.foreignpolicy.com) but if I miss anything I can never go back, there doesn't seem to be a way to view individual blog posts/comments without registering for FP and fuck that noise

Dave Weigel (Slate) is pushing this People Concerned about Drones equal People Ranting about Black Helicopters thing that is sickening.

seeing @bro_pair call him on the carpet about his iraq war support last week was kind of cheering tbh

yes i'm definitely cheered by being reminded how ridiculously young these folx are

Foreign Policy is trying to get hip, though - the most recent issue I saw had a color photo on the cover, instead of the National Geographic-circa-1912 look they'd had until, I don't know, two months ago? And if you go to their website they're definitely Slate-ifying their headlines.

it was a big blow to slate losing hitchens - probably their only real marquee columnist? (unless u count lol roiphe)

hitchens wasn't there that long was he?

foreign policy is one of those things where it's interesting to read *because* the ppl reading it are "respectable" but i hate most of what i've ever read in it, the perspective is so shamelessly fukuyama

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Foreign Policy is trying to get hip, though - the most recent issue I saw had a color photo on the cover, instead of the National Geographic-circa-1912 look they'd had until, I don't know, two months ago? And if you go to their website they're definitely Slate-ifying their headlines.

a blog post i half-read today sez that in a recent fp article (AS WELL AS A TED TALK BY THE AUTHOR), so-and-so sez 'we are witnessing the rise of laughtivism'.

coolin up, yep

as noted upthread, lithwick is good at slate. don't know how regular her column contributions are though.

http://www.mrdestructo.com/2013/04/destructo-salon-does-matthew-yglesias.html

yeeeeeees

Nitpicky point of no consequence whatsoever, but Mary Elizabeth Williams describes Wolf Blitzer as "flummoxed" in the video accompanying this story:

http://www.salon.com/2013/05/22/tornado_survivor_to_wolf_blitzer_sorry_im_an_atheist_i_dont_have_to_thank_the_lord/

That counts as flummoxed? He laughed.

web media reflexively oversell the story, cf gawker calling charles ramsey hilarious, etc.

'why dads matter'

some days, reading the atlantic, you have to wonder about the massively presumptuous busybodiness its readers must be gifted with, to go around all the time being well-informed about the latest scientific research supporting surprising social policy reforms, or HOWABOUTTHAT surprisingly supporting some time-tested truths after all

the whole style of explainitudinousness all these places have affected now is so gross to me

blame it on gladwell and freakonomics and Data!

the 'turns out' problem--the opposite of the file drawer problem. everybody wants to be first to be counterintuitive.

yes, and the "turns out" pieces often draw broad conclusions from one narrow study testing one narrow phenomenon. Everything we know about dads is wrong because male bonobo chimps enjoyed playing with a toy baby bonobo more than females, etc.

lolnobos

it seems imperative that we recognize today on father's day that we must be providing the men in our society with toy baby bonobos

today's slate headlines:

What If Your Gluten Intolerance Is All In Your Head?
George Zimmerman Is Probably Going to Walk, and That’s Not a Bad Thing
Let's Ban Tipping

good job, guys

they also published a screed against flip-flops recently

summary of latest scrotum research too

I saw this a couple weeks ago and heard some sort of related thing on NPR after that:
http://www.slate.com/articles/life/culturebox/2013/06/fork_and_knife_use_americans_need_to_stop_cutting_and_switching.html

I was more puzzled by the idea that anyone actually eats this way, which I have literally never noticed anywhere even at fancier restaurants in a number of cities. Or maybe I'm just a huge rube.

which way are you saying you've never noticed?

Jeanette Martin, the co-author of Global Business Etiquette, couldn’t think of another major country that fork-swaps. Even among Canadians, some zig-zag, but “Continental predominates.”

ouch! #shade

I've never seen anyone eat american style - switching the utensils between hands - ever in any restaurant anywhere in the US in my entire life.

I only had a vague concept that this practice even existed from when I was a kid and a teacher who was originally from germany showed us the european style and how it differed from the american style. Which made no sense to me as I had never encountered the american style before.

true americans use their fork as a knife

we got nice tender meats here, don't need to be sawing away at them the whole meal like a belgian or whoever

i do this because i'm right-handed so i use my right hand to do the precision work (cutting, conveying) and my left to do the easy stuff (steadying). that two-spaces-after-a-period article must've gotten a lot of clicks.

In my experience I've found that some Europeans cut the American way, but no Americans cut the European way.

...or eat the American/European way, I mean, since we all cut the same way.

today's slate headlines:

What If Your Gluten Intolerance Is All In Your Head?
George Zimmerman Is Probably Going to Walk, and That’s Not a Bad Thing
Let's Ban Tipping

wow content-wise it sounds like nro/the corner!

What if this really awful thing... is good?

Slate has the Bad Astronomy blog. I pick it.

they also published a screed against flip-flops recently

― mimicking regular benevloent (sic) users' names (President Keyes),

someone had to

some poor tortured soul was all worked up enough to write an article about how wrong it is to both look and feel relaxed at the same time?

What if this really awful thing... is good?

Which is funny, because this has been the print version of The Atlantic's favorite angle for over a decade. Typically with a left-baiting premise, like "McCarthyism was a positive and necessary thing" or some such.

i still get salon and slate mixed up sometimes

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2013/07/how-junk-food-can-end-obesity/309396/

I'm not even reading this but