Wigan have still got to play City, Arsenal and Spurs, but the rest of their games are against midtable fodder like Swansea and West Brom who will have long stopped trying by then. And they've got QPR. They're probably going to be okay.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 11:54 (thirteen years ago)
Have City got any reason to be trying?
― Step not on a loose unforgiving stone on a pyramid to paradise (Tom D.), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 11:55 (thirteen years ago)
I don't dislike Sunderland at all. But I think maybe I would now like them to be relegated. Would others be happy with that?
― the pinefox, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 11:57 (thirteen years ago)
"It was a big surprise but I had the fire in my stomach. I said yes after a second and I said I come by swim, no problem."Despite his new team being perched precariously one point above the relegation zone and facing trips to Chelsea and Newcastle, he professed absolute confidence in Sunderland's ability to survive under his idiosyncratic, inexperienced, brand of leadership."People are sceptical but I see managers with more experience than Paolo Di Canio, they are relegated," he said. "Why not change this habit one day. I hear people talking about my statistics but it doesn't mean anything."So how much would money would he be prepared to gamble on Sunderland still being a Premier League team next season. "You call the Mad Italian," he said. "I bet what I have got."
Despite his new team being perched precariously one point above the relegation zone and facing trips to Chelsea and Newcastle, he professed absolute confidence in Sunderland's ability to survive under his idiosyncratic, inexperienced, brand of leadership.
"People are sceptical but I see managers with more experience than Paolo Di Canio, they are relegated," he said. "Why not change this habit one day. I hear people talking about my statistics but it doesn't mean anything."
So how much would money would he be prepared to gamble on Sunderland still being a Premier League team next season. "You call the Mad Italian," he said. "I bet what I have got."
― the pinefox, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 12:00 (thirteen years ago)
"You call the Mad Italian,"
is he referencing that stupid ad here?
― Tioc Norris (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 12:11 (thirteen years ago)
Warnock now available (unless genuinely retired) - Reading and Sunderland have missed out
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2013/apr/01/leeds-united-neil-warnock-exit
― the pinefox, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 13:32 (thirteen years ago)
Leeds and di Canio might have been a powerful combination
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 13:35 (thirteen years ago)
Somehow I don't think Warnock is the go-to guy for when you want to stay in the Premiership. They might as well have gone for Iain Dowie.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 13:39 (thirteen years ago)
lol
― Tioc Norris (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 13:41 (thirteen years ago)
more than a few of my friends stateside have mentioned the juxtaposition of di Canio joining Sunderland not long after Robbie Rodgers retired (from Leeds) & came out of the closet
― a monolithic testament to shiftlessness and lost productivity (dan m), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 14:46 (thirteen years ago)
not like the two are explicitly related of course
suggest superinjunction
― delete (imago), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 18:37 (thirteen years ago)
http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/post/_/id/56694/relegation-fascism-and-paolo-di-canio-a-sunderland-fan-takes-stock
― a monolithic testament to shiftlessness and lost productivity (dan m), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 18:41 (thirteen years ago)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BG6iAQyCEAAl3S-.jpg
serious scoop for the sun here - this is why we need journalists who are willing to go the extra mile.
― Tioc Norris (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 08:53 (thirteen years ago)
since they had the headline ready they should've asked for his thoughts on Ant and Dec's surprise return to the top of the singles charts instead.
― a similar stunt failed to work with a cow (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 08:57 (thirteen years ago)
This story just gets bigger and bigger
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 08:58 (thirteen years ago)
I want to see who's quoted immediately above tbh
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 08:59 (thirteen years ago)
Incredible.
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 09:03 (thirteen years ago)
Andy wasnt home from the pub since they called first time id say
― mister borges (darraghmac), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 09:03 (thirteen years ago)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2013/apr/02/paolo-di-canio-sunderland
seems to have been reading this thread
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 09:11 (thirteen years ago)
If Di Canio were to declare himself a fascist while running a suburban corner shop it would seem less of a pastoral, representative issue than if he were to do so as a director of Tesco. It is the same question of degree and scale that applies to all things
this argument is total bollocks, not least when he was a very high profile boss at swindon and his eccentric outbursts were constantly covered in the media.
― Tioc Norris (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 09:16 (thirteen years ago)
Was my first thought as well. We do get mined occasionally, but more likely there isn't actually that much more to say now, unless he actually starts doing fascist things rather than just thinking them.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 09:20 (thirteen years ago)
What are the gags? Thousand year team, ssfc, the wehrmackems, cmon
― mister borges (darraghmac), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 09:24 (thirteen years ago)
Ronay's article is unusually bad -- just goes round in circles
quite looking forward to people judging PDC by results / football (possibly bad results and bad football)
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 09:29 (thirteen years ago)
It IS odd that at Swindon he WAS regularly discussed on The Football League Show (Bhasim / Claridge et al), Focus, whatever, and never in these terms but just as an entertaining eccentric.
I swear, on F Focus about 3 weeks ago, they asked Lawro and Keown if he'd be a PL manager and Lawro said "someone'll take a chance on him" or whatever and NONE of this came up.
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 09:31 (thirteen years ago)
just realized something, hope this is my last thought on the subject
PDC's fascism is only acceptable BECAUSE he's nuts
if he was like Pulis or Moyes, and said the same things, it WOULD seem truly sinister
but a clown like PDC saying it is the one way for it to seem ultimately harmless.
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 09:35 (thirteen years ago)
I saw that.
The BBC employed him as a fifth columnist as recently as three weeks ago.
― Habemus opiniones pro vobis (onimo), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 10:05 (thirteen years ago)
When do MOTD ever mention anything controversial and off-the-field unless it's forced onto the agenda?
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 10:12 (thirteen years ago)
"Well, all those Italians are into fashion aren't they?" #RAKE
― Tioc Norris (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 11:29 (thirteen years ago)
i think people are just being fascistists anyway - nobody remembers that time when he just grabbed the ball instead of scoring when that dude was injured in that game - fascists are people too.
or that time when the ref dived to the ground to get him banned for 11 games, he didn't even accuse the ref as being a racist whereas a non-fascist would certainly have done so. just two examples.
― ^ sarcasm (ken c), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 11:48 (thirteen years ago)
Is there a spread on how many of these 250 hours Tevez will do?
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 11:53 (thirteen years ago)
i liked the sunderland press officer snapping "kindly do not tell me how to do my job" as if he hasnt made a relatively finessable situation look deeply suss enough already
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 11:58 (thirteen years ago)
i dunno but 250 hours is like 35 days of full time work
and incidentally also more than 4 season's worth of league matches.
pretty harsh punishment.
― ^ sarcasm (ken c), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 12:02 (thirteen years ago)
'He was very clear when talking to me that this has been a salutory lesson,' said Mr Boliver. 'The likelihood of this happening again is highly unlikely.
'Mr Tevez would welcome the opportunity to put something back into the community. Clearly, he is fit for unpaid work.'
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 12:14 (thirteen years ago)
Either the Sunderland press officer has made a complete fuck-up of this or Di Canio has dug his heels in and basically refused to renounce fascism. When standing up and going "I am shit at my job" is the best case scenario it's probably time to look for a career outside PR.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 12:16 (thirteen years ago)
The Wearmacht
― Step not on a loose unforgiving stone on a pyramid to paradise (Tom D.), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 12:41 (thirteen years ago)
Mussolini would be disappointed that his legacy can't produce even a single pun
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 12:51 (thirteen years ago)
If he'd only gone back to West Ham, we could've had Eel Duce
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 13:00 (thirteen years ago)
I wouldn't rule it out for next season
― Step not on a loose unforgiving stone on a pyramid to paradise (Tom D.), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 14:35 (thirteen years ago)
then consider that a copyright claim
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 14:43 (thirteen years ago)
"I am not a racist and I do not support the ideology of fascism"
http://www.safc.com/news/club-news/2013/april/statement-from-paolo-di-canio
― Habemus opiniones pro vobis (onimo), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 15:08 (thirteen years ago)
http://www.offthepost.info/wp-content/uploads/1537809205-570x379.jpg
meanwhile in hell
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 16:19 (thirteen years ago)
"I do not support the ideology of fascism" is either terrible English or a very carefully worded non-denial. I suspect the latter.
― Trans-Europe Stopping Train (ithappens), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 17:01 (thirteen years ago)
idk the 'not' seems in the right place
― mister borges (darraghmac), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 17:02 (thirteen years ago)
And it completely fails to address the salutes, the funeral attendance, the tattoo, the admiration for Mussolini. Basically, it's the Shaggy defence: "It wasn't me!"
― Trans-Europe Stopping Train (ithappens), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 17:03 (thirteen years ago)
What's the funeral attendance? And assuming it is carefully-worded, what do you think should happen now?
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 17:39 (thirteen years ago)
Attending funeral of leading Italian fascist.
Oh, I don't know what should happen. I'm just exercising my right to have a pop. It's carefully worded enough that Sunderland's catastrophic backroom staff will doubtless claim it puts everything to bed. Next press conference, though, I bet someone asks: "You say you 'do not support the ideology of fascism'. Does that mean you are not a fascist? If you're not, why did you etc etc"
― Trans-Europe Stopping Train (ithappens), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 17:42 (thirteen years ago)
fascism, okay fine water under the bridge, but some things are unforgivable:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeGA7sA8HDw
― a similar stunt failed to work with a cow (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 22:56 (thirteen years ago)
Really hoping opposition fans have "Your manager's a Nazi" chants ready and waiting to go
― Step not on a loose unforgiving stone on a pyramid to paradise (Tom D.), Thursday, 4 April 2013 09:33 (thirteen years ago)
that pic of moyes... terrifying.
― Tioc Norris (LocalGarda), Thursday, 4 April 2013 09:34 (thirteen years ago)