Moneyball won't win the Premiership 2012-13

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Bottom two are down, you can't make up a point a game on everybody above you. They'd need six wins out of seven most likely.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 11:22 (thirteen years ago)

"U all moan about players and wages,but we don't just entertain u we entertain millions around the world,with out us what would u tweet about?"

big chris otm, gonna think of the greater good from now on

r|t|c, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 11:23 (thirteen years ago)

I'd been thinking if QPR managed to win yesterday that with decent performances from Remy they might manage to overhaul both Villa and Sunderland. Looks pretty unlikely now though.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 11:27 (thirteen years ago)

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/6342/dropwf.png

The final place is pretty interesting now thanks to Wigan. It's hard to see West Ham going down, but anybody else might. I'd had it in my mind at various times that Southampton, Norwich and Newcastle had saved themselves, but no. Never thought that Stoke were still in this.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 11:36 (thirteen years ago)

Newcastle, Stoke, Villa would all be nice.

Tioc Norris (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 11:41 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/matchday/form-guide.html

Current form guide is pretty interesting reading, I hadn't really noticed how badly Stoke were doing, or even Chelsea for that matter.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 11:41 (thirteen years ago)

Chelsea will be fine, probably just need a couple of big signings

my neighbour Turturro (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 11:44 (thirteen years ago)

Newcastle, Stoke, Villa would all be nice.

Villa have stuck by their manager. Plus it's Lambert. Stoke is not going to happen, that would be too perfect.

Step not on a loose unforgiving stone on a pyramid to paradise (Tom D.), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 11:44 (thirteen years ago)

The Villa goal difference is a real killer, though they could conceivably catch Norwich.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 11:45 (thirteen years ago)

still think it's Sunderland and Ducegate just makes it more likely

my neighbour Turturro (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 11:46 (thirteen years ago)

Up in Scotland at the weekend, two of my friends were discussing a match they'd seen at the weekend, an Italian game, "Nah, I don't watch the Premiership anymore, it's shite" quoth one.

Step not on a loose unforgiving stone on a pyramid to paradise (Tom D.), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 11:46 (thirteen years ago)

Sunderland games in April: Chelsea away, Newcastle away, Everton at home, Villa away. Could very likely get 0pts from that lot.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 11:48 (thirteen years ago)

stoke always rack up the points midseason and fuck off turn of the year tbf. possibly cutting it finer than usual this year though yeah

don't care about villa as a club but that cunt lambert has got to go, i wish him all the ills available

r|t|c, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 11:49 (thirteen years ago)

Ooh Wigan v Villa on the last day of the season, tasty.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 11:50 (thirteen years ago)

Wigan will be safe by then, not sure about t' Villa

Step not on a loose unforgiving stone on a pyramid to paradise (Tom D.), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 11:51 (thirteen years ago)

Wigan have still got to play City, Arsenal and Spurs, but the rest of their games are against midtable fodder like Swansea and West Brom who will have long stopped trying by then. And they've got QPR. They're probably going to be okay.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 11:54 (thirteen years ago)

Have City got any reason to be trying?

Step not on a loose unforgiving stone on a pyramid to paradise (Tom D.), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 11:55 (thirteen years ago)

I don't dislike Sunderland at all. But I think maybe I would now like them to be relegated. Would others be happy with that?

the pinefox, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 11:57 (thirteen years ago)

"It was a big surprise but I had the fire in my stomach. I said yes after a second and I said I come by swim, no problem."

Despite his new team being perched precariously one point above the relegation zone and facing trips to Chelsea and Newcastle, he professed absolute confidence in Sunderland's ability to survive under his idiosyncratic, inexperienced, brand of leadership.

"People are sceptical but I see managers with more experience than Paolo Di Canio, they are relegated," he said. "Why not change this habit one day. I hear people talking about my statistics but it doesn't mean anything."

So how much would money would he be prepared to gamble on Sunderland still being a Premier League team next season. "You call the Mad Italian," he said. "I bet what I have got."

the pinefox, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 12:00 (thirteen years ago)

"You call the Mad Italian,"

is he referencing that stupid ad here?

Tioc Norris (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 12:11 (thirteen years ago)

Warnock now available (unless genuinely retired) - Reading and Sunderland have missed out

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2013/apr/01/leeds-united-neil-warnock-exit

the pinefox, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 13:32 (thirteen years ago)

Leeds and di Canio might have been a powerful combination

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 13:35 (thirteen years ago)

Somehow I don't think Warnock is the go-to guy for when you want to stay in the Premiership. They might as well have gone for Iain Dowie.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 13:39 (thirteen years ago)

Leeds and di Canio might have been a powerful combination

lol

Tioc Norris (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 13:41 (thirteen years ago)

more than a few of my friends stateside have mentioned the juxtaposition of di Canio joining Sunderland not long after Robbie Rodgers retired (from Leeds) & came out of the closet

a monolithic testament to shiftlessness and lost productivity (dan m), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 14:46 (thirteen years ago)

not like the two are explicitly related of course

a monolithic testament to shiftlessness and lost productivity (dan m), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 14:46 (thirteen years ago)

suggest superinjunction

delete (imago), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 18:37 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/post/_/id/56694/relegation-fascism-and-paolo-di-canio-a-sunderland-fan-takes-stock

a monolithic testament to shiftlessness and lost productivity (dan m), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 18:41 (thirteen years ago)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BG6iAQyCEAAl3S-.jpg

serious scoop for the sun here - this is why we need journalists who are willing to go the extra mile.

Tioc Norris (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 08:53 (thirteen years ago)

since they had the headline ready they should've asked for his thoughts on Ant and Dec's surprise return to the top of the singles charts instead.

a similar stunt failed to work with a cow (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 08:57 (thirteen years ago)

This story just gets bigger and bigger

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 08:58 (thirteen years ago)

I want to see who's quoted immediately above tbh

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 08:59 (thirteen years ago)

Incredible.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 09:03 (thirteen years ago)

Andy wasnt home from the pub since they called first time id say

mister borges (darraghmac), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 09:03 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2013/apr/02/paolo-di-canio-sunderland

seems to have been reading this thread

the pinefox, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 09:11 (thirteen years ago)

If Di Canio were to declare himself a fascist while running a suburban corner shop it would seem less of a pastoral, representative issue than if he were to do so as a director of Tesco. It is the same question of degree and scale that applies to all things

this argument is total bollocks, not least when he was a very high profile boss at swindon and his eccentric outbursts were constantly covered in the media.

Tioc Norris (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 09:16 (thirteen years ago)

seems to have been reading this thread

Was my first thought as well. We do get mined occasionally, but more likely there isn't actually that much more to say now, unless he actually starts doing fascist things rather than just thinking them.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 09:20 (thirteen years ago)

What are the gags? Thousand year team, ssfc, the wehrmackems, cmon

mister borges (darraghmac), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 09:24 (thirteen years ago)

Ronay's article is unusually bad -- just goes round in circles

quite looking forward to people judging PDC by results / football (possibly bad results and bad football)

the pinefox, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 09:29 (thirteen years ago)

It IS odd that at Swindon he WAS regularly discussed on The Football League Show (Bhasim / Claridge et al), Focus, whatever, and never in these terms but just as an entertaining eccentric.

I swear, on F Focus about 3 weeks ago, they asked Lawro and Keown if he'd be a PL manager and Lawro said "someone'll take a chance on him" or whatever and NONE of this came up.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 09:31 (thirteen years ago)

just realized something, hope this is my last thought on the subject

PDC's fascism is only acceptable BECAUSE he's nuts

if he was like Pulis or Moyes, and said the same things, it WOULD seem truly sinister

but a clown like PDC saying it is the one way for it to seem ultimately harmless.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 09:35 (thirteen years ago)

I swear, on F Focus about 3 weeks ago, they asked Lawro and Keown if he'd be a PL manager and Lawro said "someone'll take a chance on him" or whatever and NONE of this came up.

I saw that.

The BBC employed him as a fifth columnist as recently as three weeks ago.

Habemus opiniones pro vobis (onimo), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 10:05 (thirteen years ago)

When do MOTD ever mention anything controversial and off-the-field unless it's forced onto the agenda?

Matt DC, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 10:12 (thirteen years ago)

"Well, all those Italians are into fashion aren't they?" #RAKE

Tioc Norris (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 11:29 (thirteen years ago)

i think people are just being fascistists anyway - nobody remembers that time when he just grabbed the ball instead of scoring when that dude was injured in that game - fascists are people too.

or that time when the ref dived to the ground to get him banned for 11 games, he didn't even accuse the ref as being a racist whereas a non-fascist would certainly have done so. just two examples.

^ sarcasm (ken c), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 11:48 (thirteen years ago)

Is there a spread on how many of these 250 hours Tevez will do?

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 11:53 (thirteen years ago)

i liked the sunderland press officer snapping "kindly do not tell me how to do my job" as if he hasnt made a relatively finessable situation look deeply suss enough already

r|t|c, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 11:58 (thirteen years ago)

i dunno but 250 hours is like 35 days of full time work

and incidentally also more than 4 season's worth of league matches.

pretty harsh punishment.

^ sarcasm (ken c), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 12:02 (thirteen years ago)

'He was very clear when talking to me that this has been a salutory lesson,' said Mr Boliver. 'The likelihood of this happening again is highly unlikely.

'Mr Tevez would welcome the opportunity to put something back into the community. Clearly, he is fit for unpaid work.'

r|t|c, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 12:14 (thirteen years ago)

Either the Sunderland press officer has made a complete fuck-up of this or Di Canio has dug his heels in and basically refused to renounce fascism. When standing up and going "I am shit at my job" is the best case scenario it's probably time to look for a career outside PR.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 12:16 (thirteen years ago)


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