U.S. Postal Service: salvageable or doomed?

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iatee, Thursday, 28 March 2013 23:58 (eleven years ago) link

but the solution must surely be more complicated than asking people to not live remotely?

eaumaille, Friday, 29 March 2013 00:02 (eleven years ago) link

USPS should become the facebook public option

max, Friday, 29 March 2013 00:03 (eleven years ago) link

sry the social network public option

max, Friday, 29 March 2013 00:04 (eleven years ago) link

I've asked before it never works xp

iatee, Friday, 29 March 2013 00:04 (eleven years ago) link

People have a right to get things delivered to remote places by the federal government. It is a just use of state powers.

And while we're at it, FedEx and UPS should be penalized more for competing against the state. Their competition lowers the efficiency of the state's economies of scale.

I am only able to build things if Obama helps me (dandydonweiner), Friday, 29 March 2013 00:05 (eleven years ago) link

We should outlaw email too, because that really ruined economies of scale for the USPS.

I am only able to build things if Obama helps me (dandydonweiner), Friday, 29 March 2013 00:06 (eleven years ago) link

i have no idea if those posts are serious or not

k3vin k., Friday, 29 March 2013 00:15 (eleven years ago) link

new board description

s.clover, Friday, 29 March 2013 00:16 (eleven years ago) link

'competing against the state'

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 29 March 2013 00:16 (eleven years ago) link

iatee too literal

eaumaille, Friday, 29 March 2013 00:55 (eleven years ago) link

clover otm

I am only able to build things if Obama helps me (dandydonweiner), Friday, 29 March 2013 01:27 (eleven years ago) link

three months pass...

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/04/us/monitoring-of-snail-mail.html?hp&_r=0

j., Wednesday, 3 July 2013 16:12 (eleven years ago) link

interesting

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 3 July 2013 16:29 (eleven years ago) link

if you go to live in the woods they will probably just have a division that uses birds to spy on you

j., Wednesday, 3 July 2013 17:03 (eleven years ago) link

five months pass...

Home delivery ending in Canada within five years:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/canada-post-to-phase-out-urban-home-mail-delivery-1.2459618

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hox-ni8geIw

clemenza, Friday, 13 December 2013 03:09 (ten years ago) link

Home delivery ending in Canada within five years

...urban home delivery.

Aimless, Friday, 13 December 2013 03:58 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/116374/postal-service-banking-how-usps-can-save-itself-and-help-poor

big in japan, right?

goole, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 21:06 (ten years ago) link

two years pass...

"A document unearthed in proceedings before the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) reveals why the APWU is adamant that the Postal Service’s deal with Staples – and others like it – must be stopped.

The March 26, 2012, document exposes the secret privatization recommendation a Postal Service consultant made to USPS management: Eliminate most retail facilities throughout the country, along with the work of APWU employees.

The document is covered by a “protective order” that prohibits its disclosure, but the Administrative Law Judge presiding over the case has ruled that the contents can be summarized and brought out from behind the veil of secrecy.

As described by the judge in his order, the document reveals that the Postal Service’s consultant made a number of proposals to the USPS, including that the Postal Service invest in high-traffic Postal Service locations and that it eliminate the majority of the standard-volume Postal Service locations and migrate that work to retail partners that are not staffed by APWU members...."

http://www.apwu.org/news/web-news-article/secret-document-exposes-usps-privatization-planning

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Friday, 29 January 2016 19:51 (eight years ago) link

USPS is so great and I will miss it fiercely if it ever goes away

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 29 January 2016 19:59 (eight years ago) link

four years pass...

I'm really feeling the damage the Trump admin has done to the USPS. I still use the mail to send in payments for about 10 monthly bills, but two bills have failed to show up in the last couple of months and one payment (for ACA plan) failed to get there, requiring me to make a quick online payment on 12/31 to have coverage in 2021. I'm thinking about changing to all online payments but I hate that this seems to be part of the conservative plan for privatization. Break shit > say "see, shit is broke" > private sector takeover > profit!

Motoroller Scampotron (WmC), Monday, 4 January 2021 16:20 (three years ago) link

We’re gonna need investigations into a lot of things. This should be one of them.

Everything's Blue In This Whorl (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 4 January 2021 16:21 (three years ago) link

yep

Motoroller Scampotron (WmC), Monday, 4 January 2021 16:40 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Book that went out right before the holiday crush still hasn't been delivered.

Book that went out on the 21st of December still hasn't been delivered, and shows that it hasn't even reached a main sorting facility— just that "the label has been created."

A package filled with cookies and other things (sent by my long-suffering aunt every Xmas to everyone in the family) arrived a month late.

In the meantime, things I ordered a week ago are arriving on time, and so is tons of useless fucking junk mail.

I know the decimation of the post office under Trump has been dire, particularly during Covid, but the policy of slowly dealing with the backlog while keeping up with mail delivery isn't cutting it— there simple should be a two-month backlog of important mail sitting in post office sorting facilities while I'm getting offers for credit cards.

The return of our beloved potatoes (the table is the table), Thursday, 21 January 2021 15:51 (three years ago) link

*there simply should NOT be a two-month backlog

The return of our beloved potatoes (the table is the table), Thursday, 21 January 2021 15:52 (three years ago) link

It's insane, but I have to say I've seen things wildly inconsistent, in the most inconsistent ways. On December 27th, I dropped two packages to family members in the mail at the same post office. One to my dad and one to my sister, who both live in different small towns about an hour and a half away from me. Both sent First Class. My dad got his the next day. My sister got hers last week.

I've had some packages coming to me take over a month, but others come within a day or two. The inconsistency I've experienced is what is the most weird.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 21 January 2021 15:56 (three years ago) link

The policy in Philadelphia is now to slowly deal with the backlog while simultaneously continuing to deliver regular mail, so what's happening makes sense, but it is also MADDENING.

The return of our beloved potatoes (the table is the table), Thursday, 21 January 2021 16:00 (three years ago) link

yup. first-in-first-out is broken. i sold a book to someone in utah and it got there in just 5 days. i have not received two DVDs from netflix (yes) i was supposed to get on january 2. but i still get bed bath and beyond coupons.

superdeep borehole (harbl), Thursday, 21 January 2021 16:00 (three years ago) link

Even the junk mail I get is late— I got a postcard for some sale that ended long before the postcard was delivered.

Boring United Methodist Church (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 21 January 2021 17:24 (three years ago) link

also makes scamming easier. my bestie bought a switch from someone on Craigslist and after sending the money, the USPS tracking number showed as "label created, not yet in system", for the first two days, and it was hard for us to tell whether it was a legit problem or the slowness of USPS tracking updates, as I've seen them update much slower than usual.

unfortunately, it was a scam and she got ripped off of $200.

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Thursday, 21 January 2021 17:46 (three years ago) link

had to file IC3 crime report which probably will go nowhere as I am pretty sure seller was using a pseudonym

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Thursday, 21 January 2021 17:46 (three years ago) link

I sure as hell turned off mail order for my prescriptions

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Thursday, 21 January 2021 17:46 (three years ago) link

I ordered packages that both got sent out the beginning of this week and have both arrived before the estimated delivery date, so I don’t know what’s going on.

Notes on Scampo (tokyo rosemary), Thursday, 21 January 2021 17:50 (three years ago) link

anything that gets sent to me via USPS via Amazon seems to show up on time. Bezos jumping the line

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Thursday, 21 January 2021 17:51 (three years ago) link

anything that gets sent to me via USPS via Amazon seems to show up on time. Bezos jumping the line


IIRC, Amazon packages get top priority over all other mail per the USPS contract with Amazon.

Boring United Methodist Church (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 21 January 2021 18:08 (three years ago) link

That answers it

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Thursday, 21 January 2021 18:08 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

It's going to take a long time to get this back to any reasonable working order, huh? In my experience, it is currently far worse than at any point in 2020 and seems to be going downhill with each passing week.

Latest twist I'm really enjoying is getting notified, daily, that something is out for delivery, only to have it continually get pushed back to (allegedly) the next day. Been riding this cycle every day since last Wednesday for one particular package, it's put on the truck for delivery every single day but for some reason just can't make it to my door.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 20:57 (three years ago) link

our local mail deliverers are overworked and as such prone to mistakes. we constantly get stuff missdelivered, and unfortunately the last victim was my mother's water pills.

they put it in another neighbor's box and instead of bringing it to our door like every decent human being does, they returned it to sender.

he said that you son of a bitch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 21:22 (three years ago) link

Oh yeah, the amount of misdeliveries around here is skyrocketing. I've pretty much built in time every other day to redistribute mail to others and our neighborhood email group is just lousy with "anybody get my mail" and "I got so-and-so's mail" notes.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 21:24 (three years ago) link

yeah we usually get knocks on the door from neighbors saying "I got your stuff", it's how we meet each other here.

he said that you son of a bitch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 21:25 (three years ago) link

I've still yet to receive a few things I ordered in December, yet items that I ordered three days ago show up no problem.

https://www.inquirer.com/news/philadelphia/usps-tracking-package-shipping-delays-philadelphia-december-20210116.html

The return of our beloved potatoes (the table is the table), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 16:14 (three years ago) link

same, I have three packages from Germany that appear to be trapped in customs, one was shipped on Oct. 15th.

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 16:29 (three years ago) link

So, yet another day this particular package was marked “out for delivery” but wasn’t delivered. Guessing this means it’s likely gone for good. I’d almost feel better if it had just been sitting in a distribution center without an update.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 20:28 (three years ago) link

I know things are insanely slow, I totally get that. I've just never had a package show as "out for delivery" for a full week before. Basically wondering if I just need to chill longer, or if this is a case where I might want to contact the USPS sooner rather than later.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 11 February 2021 04:13 (three years ago) link

I'd just contact them. If it's a non-corporate seller, contact the seller directly after contacting the USPS and try to work something out.

If it's a corporate seller, demand a refund.

The only times I've ever been in the situation you describe, it's been an Amazon package (yes, excoriate me, hard to get to the store when one is on chemotherapy and one's partner works full time), and they refunded me immediately.

The return of our beloved potatoes (the table is the table), Thursday, 11 February 2021 15:49 (three years ago) link

Thanks, I'll see if it comes today, if not I'll get in touch with them. If this were Amazon, I'd be less worried, just annoyed because this is a subscription based thing that is otherwise sold out now and I'm not sure I can even get a replacement.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 11 February 2021 15:50 (three years ago) link

Any chance this year of Biden/Congress repealing that stupid law passed in 2009?

Nhex, Thursday, 11 February 2021 15:51 (three years ago) link

That would be nice, for sure.

Reading that article table shared makes me wonder how they are going to be able to dig out of this hole. I mean, it's not like the pandemic is over and people still aren't mailing/ordering things at record levels. Surely the holiday bump has died down, but it seems to me like the backlog isn't going anywhere while new stuff continues to pile on top.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 11 February 2021 15:55 (three years ago) link

instead of the dumbass Space Force, they should make the Postal Service the fifth branch of the US military, thereby forever removing any need for any fiscal responsibility on their part for all time

fbclid=fhAZ3l (f. hazel), Thursday, 11 February 2021 16:03 (three years ago) link

Space Mail

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 February 2021 16:04 (three years ago) link


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