Gay Marriage to Alfred: Your Thoughts

here's the thing, is the devil even gay, or is it just the dungeon/S&M scene trappings that give the christian right this idea? co i think that might be chicken/egg tbrr

xpost it takes a village of profile pictures, Ned

Beginning to get REAL sour at how precious some people are treating a fucking red-colored equal sign icon.

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a facebook thing, AA

ah, ta

ppl changed their profile pics to some generic red equals sign thingy and got kinda snotty about ppl a) not changing their profile pics or b) commenting on everyone changing their profile pics or c) general piousness

ohhh, the hrc logo but red

i have hrc logo cufflinks but i lost them in the move :(

xp ahh, that's the snottiness, cheers

yes I've already called out a few people. Having straight "allies" unwilling to make the leap to support poverty initiatives is an unexpected irony.

I want NOTHING to do with the HRC.

lyfe of pi

i thought maybe the red was because some militant anti-nice group was trying to dilute the cause, thankfully not xp

I want NOTHING to do with the HRC.

oh shit, what do i need to know?

bootlickers

idgi

dudes, if you want to help, fuck this profile pic shit and donate money to your favorite gay poverty causes.

ah yes

although i do think building momentum for this change will lead to reduced bullying, depression &c.

Fuck you, my profile pic is fabulous.

Eric, Eric -- always some harebrained scheme or another!

And Cliff and Claire are terrrrrible people. Is that the point of that show?

and Stalin was a wit. What's your point?

Sorry, not my table.

for you, boo, I'm watching "That Was No Lady" on TVLand.

http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/tony-perkins-threatens-gop-support-marriage-equality-and-evangelicals-will-form-third-party/politics/2013/03/26/63452

Bring it.

looool @ a party founded explicitly on the grounds of bigotry in 2013

"It's weird, we had this rush of members but they kept dying out..."

Really enjoyed this, meantime:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/no-court-can-change-attitudes-on-marriage/2013/03/26/0e449766-9563-11e2-b6f0-a5150a247b6a_story.html

Vaughn Walker, relaxed.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-prop-8-judge-vaughn-walker-20130326,0,4242635.story

I knew there was a reason I chose this woman as my mom. <3<3<3:

Until 1967, in some states, mixed race marriage was illegal. It was considered by some, based on their interpretation of holy writings, to be sinful. My marriage would be, by some people's twisted thinking, an abomination. Today, it's completely accepted (except for a few whackos). Love is love.

Nice. :-)

i imagine it being like if Nixon married Vidal

wtf, who is who?

homosexual is an adjective, not a noun

the noun is homosexualist

xxpost it depends on yr mood

okay a friend just changed her profile from the red square to this

http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp201/sharonjoy666/E2A11FFB-2E20-41EF-BF95-EDCA9C59300D-2255-00000137FC93E1DD_zps7744f8ad.jpg

do they want fucking medals for being human beings too? jesus wept

I'm for gay everything in my life & the lives of my friends & people I havent met yet, I don't need a goddamn internet lawn sign to tell everyone what a good girl I am

sorry. i forgot this isnt the IA thread :)

but ffs

It won't be fashionable forever.

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/549784_10152729424800601_1971505041_n.jpg

sorry, i don't understand why people are so annoyed about the in-yer-face solidarity. the anti-equality bigotry is fucking ridiculous and this avalanche of support underlines just how overdue this change is. it's not like people changing their twitter avatars to 'KONY 2012' and doing stuff-all else, in this case it *is* something that could make a difference.

i don't know why it has to be perceived as bogans trying to be the most pro-equality, rather than just a mile-high stack of united people

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/480798_548907078464675_1556333813_n.jpg

then maybe I'm just cynical. but it feels about as much like solidarity as a livestrong bracelet. i dunno what I want but I hate people on my timeline acting like they're 'doing' something when it's a bloody picture

I'll shut up.

It's nice to have a dream.

I think Alfred put it best in his blog post earlier tonight:

To see by my count fifty-five friends, three quarters of whom are straight, adopt the curious Rothko-like marriage equality Facebook profile photo moved me, but I couldn’t join them: besides my reluctance to attend football games or march in parades, I couldn’t see past the gesture, not when other priorities beckon. But the recognition that we’re in this together is heartening.

Onward.

Allow me, him and others like us our own way around this, and showing the connections as we choose to do. And just because I have an ambivalence bordering on the unsettled in terms of the gesture doesn't mean I have an ambivalence on a point which, as I said myself on here and elsewhere today, I've pretty much been convinced of the correctness of for two frickin' decades -- not that length of time or accident of moment of realization makes me special or means I deserve a medal, I don't, at all, in the slightest. I just choose to mark the moment differently.

yeah I guess I need to walk my IA back somewhat. the gesture, such as it is, isnt meaningless & I bear no-one any actual ill will.

http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr02/2013/3/25/15/enhanced-buzz-6303-1364238675-21.jpg

The gesture is fine but I'm not changing my picture either. This may make me a cantankerous old crank but I just would hate to give the world the impression that I think changing my picture actually means anything.

You guys are going to tell me your profile picture on FB are your most prized and sacrosanct piece of real estate?

VG, I get where you are coming from, but I've read enough similar sentiments to your own today to be a little perturbed by them. Does a show of unity, no matter how feeble or ultimately "useless", really have to be so offensive? I mean, don't worry, people will be back to posting stupid image macros tomorrow.

And my changing my avatar today wasn't just some, "oh hey, this is a thing" idea on my part. A bill to legalize gay marriage recently passed the Illinois Senate and is now sitting in the House waiting for a vote, so I've been spending a lot of time these past few months writing and calling my representatives. Today just sort of feels like a continuation of the momentum that has been building among friends of mine.

I believe you jvc - just feel like a lot of what I see on my Facebook feed is rah-rah preaching to the choir stuff among people who themselves don't really think about political issues except when the next macro comes around. Not to say that I'm some champion in the streets, but I sort of resent the implied bullying participation-mongering, it all feels very high school.

Also no one has been clear to me why it's red; I assume because Communism which I'm down with but I can't imagine (for most of the people in my feed posting it) it's that.

ned (and others): i should point out that i never changed any profile pics for this today either, despite my passion; and i'm not even demanding that people do. i'm only startled by the outpouring of disdain towards those who did.