itt blogs instruct you how to be a man

http://i.imgur.com/QodvhOQ.png

lol

nazi queers fuck off

<3 u goole

goole otm

and lol

i think it's a shame that men who hate women and blacks but like to suck cock feel so politically homeless

haha wow thanks guys, i think i've found my new nemesis

― open the blood gates (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, March 20, 2013 12:59 PM (21 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ha this guy is not worth it, so entry level

you're right, i mean that is one sorry ass powerpoint presentation, pfffffffft

dudes be watching mad men ergo

do you think this guy's birthday is 12/23 and his favorite band is weezer and I just determined half of his email password recovery question answers?

is there a way to encourage healthy & positive masculinity that doesn't involve appealing to the continuity of male lineage?

http://dad-swag.tumblr.com/

"dad swag"

this is something that's been on my mind in the past few days, how these antiquated models of masculinity are invoked against uncertainty. the idea that virtue is a birthright passed through the male bloodline, whether or not our progenitors were actually good men. all these appeals to the way our grandfathers did things, and the conceit that fatherhood is the measure of a fully realized man.

for ex. the "rules for my unborn son" blog is framed in such a way, but really doesn't have anything to do with parenting.

in many contexts, children are the only acceptable way to express your innate self-regard so none of this really surprises me

(had a more loaded word there, removed it because I only want to be slightly accusatory rather than double-barrelled)

I feel like there's a parallel to the modern career situation, especially as far as the emphasis on individualism. We've lost a lot of situations where people are apprenticed to a career, or have a clear-cut path as far as career advancement goes, partially due to an emphasis on free agency and otherwise due to the concentration on college education over skilled trades and union-led trades.

Having generic signifiers and signposts of adult manhood seem like another attempt to patch this hole of how to live your life.

on the one hand, you can see a sort of tenderness in the way these guys try to figure it out. they teach and encourage and role model for each other. they are instructing each other how to shave and how to dress and how to behave towards women -- in a practical way, they are sort of fathering each other and finding models of manhood that were otherwise lacking in their lives.

on the other hand, a lot of the stuff they end up transmitting is privileged retrogressive dogmatic bullshit so idk :(

there was some movie Morbs likes that parodies this

i dont feel like people caring ab their grandfathers is actually a very popular thing or an increasing trend or anything, even like wearing some sick as filson woodsman gear isnt that popular, most guys wear tshirts and find their grandfathers irrelevant

i got my hair cut and decided to BE A MAN and get my first shave and a haircut and that dude fucked up my neck six ways to sunday
i'm gonna stay a little girly girl from now on

girls are awesome fyi

anyway boys have cooties

lag00n, maybe it's just the trendpieces and menswear blogs i'm reading but idk, it seems like a thing to me

ya i suspect menswear blogs are the only place this reality exists, like you need to blog a reason for liking old clothes

http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/Homepage/tap1/2013/03/weekof130318/CA_130320_GaybrosB.jpg

As members of Gaybros—a Reddit-based community for gay guys with traditionally manly interests like sports, hunting, and beer—the large majority of their bonding takes place through comment threads under topics like “Ron Swanson vs. James Bond” and “My Gay Card Has Been Revoked.”

ya we got that going on the gay thread rn, i just posted this link to the most 'controversial' post:

http://www.reddit.com/r/gaybros/comments/vvw2x/youre_not_masculine/

yeesh

yah

tip to gaybro internet dating consists mostly of meeting people you dont want to have sex with

My friend's dad is a gay man who loves all that manly shit and remodels homes for a living, but he also really looks like a cross between Patrick Swayze and one of the village people. Which is how I thought he seemed when he was married to a woman, so that is really not dependent on sexuality.

So yeah, the hallmarks of "masculinity" are as much a ruse when it comes to sexuality as anything. I think, social activity-wise I code as gay by their metric but I'm not at all interested in guys.

Do we have proof they're not just narcissists or simple-minded and just can't imagine dating someone who doesn't have the exact same interests?

if i was gay id be a gaybro who hates gaybros and therefor the ultimate contemporary individual

think the key part of the word here is 'bro'

they're gay AND they're bros. their narrow-minded broitude happens to be limited to their world of beer and video games and being gay. bein a bro means almost by definition getting defensive about one's bro-ness, anyone that doesn't bro-down is just stuck up and so not a bro and w/e dude you can't even

xpost: also p sure you'd create a singularity
*hi-five*

Do we have proof they're not just narcissists or simple-minded and just can't imagine dating someone who doesn't have the exact same interests?

the 'interests' are just code, i think

i mean, we're just talking about gay men who feel uncomfortable and even outright hostile towards what they see as feminine characteristics in dress, speech, movement, & behavior. you don't necessarily have to share all the same interests, you just have to hate femmes.

love of football and drinking brewskis optional

it's really a pitch-perfect reddit community, tho

privileged young white dudes congratulating themselves for their masculinity while harboring a wounded outsider status? check

that's the most delusional thing, is how they seem to think that masculine gay men are somehow a marginal group

also i clicked over to one of the affiliated nsfw subreddits and the top post was a video of a dude jerking off in a thor costume, so

as if "no fats no fems" hasn't been the tagline of gay personal ads since forever

lots of thoughts about this, please excuse the ramble

RE the menaissance video: this "movement" has been going on for a long time. I knew dudes who were "getting in touch with their manliness" back in the early 90's. Tough guy commercials, men's movements, complaints about feminizing males, etc have been common for over 20 years. The man show came out before metrosexual was coined. "Dumb dad" shows like home improvement were, in part, created as a response to this nostalgia for manliness. The first wave of video-gaming adults were struggling with gender anxiety when they were still children. Guides for men on manners and clothing were gaining in popularity 20 years ago--they were released as books, because there was no internet.

His entire speech is a-historical and suffers, in part, from the inability to see past the dawn of the internet. Like dudes who think they started something because they were around at the beginning of Reddit or whatever.

its funny when he makes fun of metrosexuals for shopping then like one second later hes all omg classic suits woodman pants

i guess u just find that stuff in abandoned mines

So is Ignite (Tulsa) an even-dumber TedX?

imagine the same speech being given by buzz bissinger in leather pants and boots with 5-inch heels

Elmo's link to Jack Donovan is sending me down a rabbit hole of "the alternative right" - gems such as
We offer a simple solution here:

Promote the idea of Futurist Traditionalism, an eternal type of government that avoids the eternal problem of Crowdism.
Unite the 2-5% of our society who are independent thinkers and respected local leaders (police, teachers, politicians, clergy, business leaders, artists and athletes) around this ideal.
Using democratic and other means, demand that we be given the right to have some areas of our society which are Future Traditionalist, and let others see our success.