your favorite little computer program hoonja-doonja (mac version)

the ios app is like 15 bucks, but you can buy a package with the os x app for a deal. sooooo worth it ime. even setting the security aspect aside, it's just v v nice to not have to remember ANY passwords. especially for my job, which requires me to know like 20 different logins/passwords which change on a regular basis.

Any other suggestions in the MoneyWiz space or is that the best? Mint is driving me nuts.

Re 1pass, does it do anything that lastpass doesn't, besides being prettier...?

What Tracer said.

Hi Tracer!

hi don!

sktsh i don't know, i've never used lastpass.

I looked at lastpass at one point, discovered the switching cost (time) would be a nightmare

yeah 1password was a bit of a bitch to set up at first, at least the way i did it, which was to generate new strong passwords for literally everything. but after that it has been very low-maintenance.

i think it was the great gawker hack of 2012 that finally spurred me to action. either that or last.fm. or the playstation network.

the #1 annoying thing about lastpass is that its really just a browser plugin/ios app, so you still need to copy-paste its passwords (and usually enter your master pass) into non-browser apps

i signed up for lastpass b/c its the one the lifehacker guys all use. the big diff i think is that 1pass is all locally-stored (so if you want to use it on multiple computers you need to put the database in dropbox) whereas lastpass is all in the cloud

I use keepass.

Yeah I use KeePassX, it's free and I when used Windows at work I needed something that worked there and on my Mac at home. I don't think it does anything fancy but it's good enough.

Also I've recently discovered Spectacle and it's like one of my favorite things ever now.

i use SizeUp and it's useful and i feel like a wizard

but Spectacle looks like it does the same stuff, and is free

1password stores passwords in dropbox. if you're at a computer without the app, you just login to dropbox via yr web browser and it provides an html interface to all yr passwords which looks basically like the normal app.

$60 for 1password? No thank you, I will use an obscure text file called "drowssap.txt" in my Documents folder.

I've been using Wallet for years: http://www.acrylicapps.com/wallet/mac/

Not quite as well-integrated as 1password is, but I'm OK with having a vague barrier between my browser and password manager. There's also an iOS version.

1password stores passwords in dropbox. if you're at a computer without the app, you just login to dropbox via yr web browser and it provides an html interface to all yr passwords which looks basically like the normal app.

― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, March 20, 2013 2:36 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

what if someone hacks your dropbox?? doesnt all this double-triple-secret-put-all-my-passwords-in-a-special-box-on-the-internet thing end up completely backfiring at some point?

the idea is you have a passphrase that is super long, and you use that to encrypt your password manager's database. that database file only exists on your computer and on dropbox. so you'd need the super long password and access to dropbox. seems really unlikely?

yeah the thing is, i've encrypted my 1password file with a one time pad

*produces 100 scribbled on legal pads* heres the 128 bit key

at least i think thats how it worked in cryptonomicon

thanks for the reminders, just did this:
https://www.dropbox.com/help/363/en

now you need my dropbox email, password, and my mobile phone to get into dropbox

you can two-factor dropbox (and lastpass).

so even if you bruteforced a password (unlikely if its 20+ characters) youd need a persons phone or ubikey or whatever

everyone should two-factor their gmail also

the #1 annoying thing about lastpass is that its really just a browser plugin/ios app, so you still need to copy-paste its passwords (and usually enter your master pass) into non-browser apps

ah, that makes sense. So it works with eg your mail.app passwords etc? I haven't found lack of this to be a limitation for what I do, but I can see how it would be.

I stuck my toe in the water with lastpass despite reading lots of people saying 1password is the way to go because I wanted to try out a password manager before paying, but I'm happy enough/cheap enough that I think I'm going to stick with it. I use safari/osx at home, chrome/win7 at work and safari on the iphone in between, and it seems like it would cost me GBPtonnes to install 1password across all three. My biggest worry was how it would work with ios- I don't like the idea of having to rely on a different browser, but in the end I haven't even paid for lastpass on iphone. Bookmarklets mean it actually works really well in safari. Overall would recommend.

well it doesnt really *need* to work w/ mail.app since theoretically you're just entering a password once?

im thinking more of situations like e.g. the app store, where i need my apple ID password handy to download stuff and need to run back to chrome, open my lastpass vault, enter my master pass, copy the apple ID password, tab back to the app store, paste it in. <em>every time</em>

that is the one situation - the app store - where these password keepers are v annoying but i've gotten used to it

for the one situation, i just come up with a new password and remember it. three or four longish real words. no punctuation except the spaces. quick to type.

what if someone waterboards me for my 1password password

hey bro what's your password

ban noiseboarding

my password is lunawasme2005

that was encrypted right? only i can see that?

your password was *************?

*breathes deep sigh of relief*

1password is 50% off rite nao https://agilebits.com/store

tell me about your textexpander snippets

i have several gif based snippets

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/9287652/images/gifs/getout.gif

what it your shortcut for that?

getoutgif

cool

this is neat
http://www.tomahawk-player.org/

Yeah that's ^ been available for awhile on the web and as a set of APIs. There was some big-time service that was using it for their underlying tech, can't remember what it was now. A bit hit and miss but yeah very cool.

in the same vein as tomahawk, this is the best app ive spent money on all year:

http://cloudplay.fm/

used to be cheaper, not sure when the guy raised the price.

whats the killer thing it does for you

being able to put soundclound + youtube + mp3s in my itunes library in one playlist

that i can listen to without having to keep a browser window open

what happens if a youtube or soundcloud goes down?