Israel to World: "Suck It."

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Wish nobody had reported on what was being omitted at the climate change conference in Copenhagen because that ain't news.

Gukbe, Tuesday, 19 March 2013 22:49 (thirteen years ago)

it's not like the ppl they're quoting are particularly newsworthy -- kerry they get on an old quote w/ questionable relevance, and they mention gatekeepers which is timely, but look at the ppl who make up the bulk of the article:

Alon Liel, a former director general of the foreign ministry in Jerusalem and a former Israeli ambassador to South Africa
David Aaron Miller – a negotiator in efforts by the Clinton administration to broker an Israeli-Palestinian agreement and an adviser on Middle East policy to six US secretaries of state
S Daniel Abraham, a US billionaire, confidante of American and Israeli leaders, and founder of the Center for Middle East Peace in Washington
Martin Indyk, a former US ambassador to Israel and now vice-president of the Brookings Institution

Mordy, Tuesday, 19 March 2013 22:51 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah none of them have a valid opinion

Gukbe, Tuesday, 19 March 2013 22:52 (thirteen years ago)

you've convinced me gukbe. peacelovethegap.

Mordy, Tuesday, 19 March 2013 22:53 (thirteen years ago)

No doubt. Actually only posted it because it was throwing "apartheid" around.

Gukbe, Tuesday, 19 March 2013 22:53 (thirteen years ago)

Not sure what I was meant to be convincing you of, mind.

Gukbe, Tuesday, 19 March 2013 22:54 (thirteen years ago)

netanyahu apologized to erdogan over the flotilla raid!

max, Friday, 22 March 2013 15:36 (thirteen years ago)

& agreed to compensate families to boot. good lord.

ogmor, Friday, 22 March 2013 15:40 (thirteen years ago)

Israel to World: "Sorry, we fucked up"

Step not on a loose unforgiving stone on a pyramid to paradise (Tom D.), Friday, 22 March 2013 15:42 (thirteen years ago)

i'm into that decision

Mordy, Friday, 22 March 2013 15:43 (thirteen years ago)

Just 36% of Americans younger than 30 sympathize more with Israel, while 19% sympathize more with the Palestinians. A relatively large share of young people (37%) either offer no opinion (34%) or say they sympathize with both sides (3%).

http://www.people-press.org/2013/03/19/public-remains-supportive-of-israel-wary-of-iran/

Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 23 March 2013 18:13 (thirteen years ago)

https://twitter.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/315579678138175489

Mordy, Sunday, 24 March 2013 21:57 (thirteen years ago)

netanyahu apologized to erdogan over the flotilla raid!

― max, Friday, March 22, 2013 3:36 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

& agreed to compensate families to boot. good lord.

― ogmor, Friday, March 22, 2013 3:40 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

according to ben shapiro, bibi was "bullied" into doing this by mean ol' Obama

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 24 March 2013 22:02 (thirteen years ago)

i'm sure it was in both country's interest to repair diplomatic relations, esp re syria + iran situations

Mordy, Sunday, 24 March 2013 22:10 (thirteen years ago)

it was wise bullying at worst.

ogmor, Sunday, 24 March 2013 22:28 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/apr/01/israel-jails-conscientous-objector-eighth

Gukbe, Monday, 1 April 2013 13:46 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.opisrael.com word is that this was a hacker site attacking israel. so israel hackers took it over and now it plays hatikvah.

Mordy, Sunday, 7 April 2013 02:34 (thirteen years ago)

http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/04/opisrael-hack-versus-counter-hack/

Mordy, Sunday, 7 April 2013 02:35 (thirteen years ago)

Thought this was very, very good on both sides:
http://intelligencesquaredus.org/debates/past-debates/item/793-israel-can-live-with-a-nuclear-iran

I have gradually come to like Jeffrey Goldberg less and less and I thought he sounded a bit hysterical here, but the other "against" guy was very good, as were the "for" guys.

--808 542137 (Hurting 2), Monday, 8 April 2013 02:53 (thirteen years ago)

I have gradually come to like Jeffrey Goldberg less and less < so otm

Mordy, Monday, 8 April 2013 02:55 (thirteen years ago)

I feel like there is a slightly unhinged man underneath his veil of reasonableness.

--808 542137 (Hurting 2), Monday, 8 April 2013 02:59 (thirteen years ago)

also he doesn't seem particularly bright

Mordy, Monday, 8 April 2013 03:00 (thirteen years ago)

i thought you loved him?

k3vin k., Monday, 8 April 2013 03:14 (thirteen years ago)

i liked him a few years ago but i've since gotten really tired of his shtick

Mordy, Monday, 8 April 2013 03:19 (thirteen years ago)

yeah his arguments were kind of wandering all over the place. It was like "You literally think that Iran will nuke Israel within three years?" "Absolutely." "Well what basis do you have for that." "Look, no Israelis are going to want to stay in Israel so it will stop being a Jewish state." "But what can Iran do differently than it could before?" "No one is going to want to invest in Israel."

--808 542137 (Hurting 2), Monday, 8 April 2013 03:19 (thirteen years ago)

i think he leans heavily on his access. his thinking on middle east issues tho are often just MOR DC centrist CW - i don't think he demonstrates a lot of insight into middle east politics or events. maybe he used to be better, idk, or maybe i got older

Mordy, Monday, 8 April 2013 03:22 (thirteen years ago)

this is pretty much where against the motion won, i think

And all of these problems with launch on warning -- now, I quite take the fact that these regimes don't have the controlled mechanisms, the command and control or even the technologies that will make this a safer world. And so I fully acknowledge that there's an element of risk there. I fully acknowledge that Israel shouldn't live with a nuclear Iran if there's a better option. I'm just arguing that there may not be a better option.

Mordy, Monday, 8 April 2013 03:33 (thirteen years ago)

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/11566_10151377952296409_1118235419_n.jpg

Mordy, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 22:03 (thirteen years ago)

No end to Truman's embarrassments.

Gukbe, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 22:35 (thirteen years ago)

i miss the days when banner headlines were like 20-30 words

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 23:29 (thirteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

ugh... please stop?

can we stay the fuck out of this as well?

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 4 May 2013 07:30 (thirteen years ago)

I think it's too late, plans seem to have been already made.
Israel are the cocky little kid that starts a fight then lets the bigger kid step in and finish it.

not_goodwin, Saturday, 4 May 2013 07:35 (thirteen years ago)

oh don't be such drama queens: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/31/world/middleeast/syria-says-it-was-hit-by-strikes-from-israeli-planes.html

Mordy, Saturday, 4 May 2013 14:29 (thirteen years ago)

I think it's too late, plans seem to have been already made.
Israel are the cocky little kid that starts a fight then lets the bigger kid step in and finish it.

― not_goodwin, Saturday, May 4, 2013 3:35 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Not really. Israel did this in 2007 as well. They struck a shipment of arms that was headed for hezbollah, not a stationary target.

huun huurt 2 (Hurting 2), Sunday, 5 May 2013 00:49 (thirteen years ago)

I would say it's unlikely this is aimed to open up a wider war, although you never know

huun huurt 2 (Hurting 2), Sunday, 5 May 2013 00:52 (thirteen years ago)

the scheme is set, likud will soon use false flags to occupy all of transjordan

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Sunday, 5 May 2013 00:52 (thirteen years ago)

lol

huun huurt 2 (Hurting 2), Sunday, 5 May 2013 00:53 (thirteen years ago)

Good news

Stephen Hawking joins academic boycott of Israel

i wouldn't mistake myself for anyone. (wolves lacan), Friday, 10 May 2013 19:28 (thirteen years ago)

Israel probably still ain't gonna give a fuck. They didn't give a fuck about the Pixies.

how's life, Friday, 10 May 2013 19:35 (thirteen years ago)

Israeldgaf

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 10 May 2013 19:46 (thirteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

no no no, they got really angry about it

man. pero man. man man man (wolves lacan), Thursday, 6 June 2013 04:24 (thirteen years ago)

six months pass...

What a dick:

http://www.haaretz.com/mobile/.premium-1.562552?v=12AF99EAF04CD4FBDE3AF193EBF1FE32

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 9 December 2013 18:38 (twelve years ago)

i think he should go, but apparently the price tag is not just a blow-off - security detail for bibi was going to run into the millions, versus the $100k it'll cost to send 5 ministers instead.

Mordy , Monday, 9 December 2013 19:10 (twelve years ago)

Yeah, I bet he could have found the money. It's a one-time only funeral of a major political figure that dozens of other major political figures will be attending. Without knowing the guest list, if I were PM of Israel I think I'd rather be counted among the people going than the people not going.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 9 December 2013 20:04 (twelve years ago)

Plus, you know, Bono and Oprah will be there.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 9 December 2013 20:05 (twelve years ago)

one month passes...

Jeffrey St Clair revamps a 2001 essay by himself and Cockburn on Sharon the terrorist:

An official
 Israeli commission of inquiry–chaired by Yitzhak Kahan, president of Israel’s
 Supreme Court–investigated the massacre, and in February 1983 publicly
 released its findings (without Appendix B, which remained secret). The Kahan
Commission found that Ariel Sharon, among other Israelis, had direct responsibility 
for the massacre. The commission’s report stated:

“It is our view
 that responsibility is to be imputed to the Minister of Defense for having disregarded
 the danger of acts of vengeance and bloodshed by the Phalangists against the 
population of the refugee camps, and having failed to take this danger into 
account when he decided to have the Phalangists enter the camps. In addition,
 responsibility is to be imputed to the Minister of Defense for not ordering 
appropriate measures for preventing or reducing the danger of massacre as a
 condition for the Phalangists’ entry into the camps. These blunders constitute
the non-fulfillment of a duty with which the Defense Minister was charged.”

Sharon refused 
to resign. Finally, on February 14, 1983, he was relieved of his duties as defense 
minister, though he remained in the cabinet as minister without portfolio.

http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/01/17/sharon-the-terrorist/

eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Monday, 20 January 2014 14:14 (twelve years ago)

two weeks pass...

I really wish I believed there was anything behind these words.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/israeli-leaders-cry-foul-over-kerrys-boycott-warning/2014/02/02/fcf097e0-8c41-11e3-9ed8-259977a48789_story.html

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 5 February 2014 20:46 (twelve years ago)

two weeks pass...

One of the major players in the worldwide drug industry is Teva Pharmaceutical Industries, Ltd., an Israeli company. According to its website, Teva fills 1 out of every 6 generic prescriptions in the US and Canada. Generic drugs, in 2012, made up 84% of all prescriptions filled in the US. So in the US, 14% of all prescriptions were filled by an Israeli company. If you live in the US and you bought 7 prescription drugs over the course of the year, chances are that one of them was made by Teva.

Mordy , Friday, 21 February 2014 00:02 (twelve years ago)


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