The Shining

Compared to the book, now, the only thing I miss is any sort of balance to Jack - even the minor moments of being a loving/caring human being. Everything else Kubrick changed or eliminated seem right on, though.

Seriously one of the most chilling movies right up through meeting Grady in the ballroom/bathroom - that kills all the momentum and drama (poss. I just know what's going to happen). The disassociation caused by the overacting music and framing create tension even in innocuous scenes, but it doesn't work when Kubrick tries to be more traditional, you just start noticing that Shelley Duvall has huge fucking eyes.

The naked black women in Scatman Crothers' bachelor pad are almost as great as the masked biker men in The Royal Tenenbaums.

And yeah, the aniaml-outfit-fellatio thing is really really freaky. In the book, it turns out the guy he's sucking off is the owner of the hotel. The owner of the hotel is called Horace Derwent. He's got the same (not particularly common) surname as me. So I shat myself when I read that.

yeah, i think it actually works better in the movie because its so inexplicable.

Well, I just disagree. I liked it because it was just a really creepy update of the monkey's paw. the parts with dead children and the nightime journey to the indian burial ground were really effective to me.

Also, this made the rounds WAY fast... everyone's seen this today (not on ILX, I mean)

Yeah, but the end results!

http://www.boingboing.net/2005/09/30/west_side_story_beco.html

http://www.boardsmag.com/articles/magazine/20050601/aice.html

http://www.aice.org/ ('Trailer Park' section)

The Shining Revised....oh my!

someone needs to remix this movie. here's what to do:

- remove 80% of the music. too many times this movie spills into overkill because of the combination of jack nicholson + crazy modern classical music. I think nicholson by himself = already spooky (plus also funny, which is another thing the shining should have exploited more)

- ...which means you need to hire an editor to make this movie happen in under 2 hours, so all dialogue and extended pan shots of (admittedly beautiful) scenery don't go stale

- structure the movie around the bar scenes. these move at a good pace, don't have a bunch of dramatic overkill, are funny, nice to look at, and give a great idea of jack's motivation to kill, are good barometers for his madness.

- hold off on the scariest images until the end. dropping the blood coming out of elevators in the first 20 minutes is bad pacing for a movie that in general takes its time getting to the finish line

You're silly in the head.

someone needs to remix this movie.

I mean, did you SEE that awful miniseries?!

"remixing"/"re-imagining"/"tweaking" this film would be like taking a runny, pungent dump on "The Mona Lisa." Don't fuck with it.

Maybe they could CGI Shelly Duvall out of the film and put Winona Ryder in instead, as a way of appealing to the young people. Also, they could get Greedo to shoot first.

- hold off on the scariest images until the end. dropping the blood coming out of elevators in the first 20 minutes is bad pacing for a movie that in general takes its time getting to the finish line

i agree with this, jack's descent into madness happens too suddenly - you don't get much of a sense of what he's actually like before he goes crazy so there's no counterpoint. then, when he does, it goes on for too long. really great movie but it's totally improvable.

I'm not so sure about holding it off until the end, though. The first shining that Danny has in the bathroom (about the elevator and the split-second splice of the twins) is very effective for presaging/foreshadowing and captures the viewer's attention quickly.

I do think when Shelly Duvall finally sees the elevator, though, it's been shown too many times by that point and not effective.

I'm trying to think if any other Great Director's Worst Film has inspired such slavish devotion...

I can only assume you've seen Fear and Desire. And A Clockwork Orange.

slavish = people like it?

Other things and scenes that struck me this time around:
-The magical negro trope
-Halloran on the airplane asking what time they arrive in Denver and in the airport calling his friend to get the snowcat ready
-Exactly which column Jack is hiding behind when Halloran walks through the lobby and the yell that precedes his attack
-when Grady unlocks the storage closet for Jack and says that he “and others” are concerned that Jack won’t follow through

“midnight…with the stars and youuu”

I watched it with my 14 yo and the two scenes that made him jump were 1 - the transformation in room 237 (of course) and 2 - toward the end when the party guest greets Wendy in the hallway

https://www.taschen.com/en/books/film/08085/stanley-kubrick-s-the-shining?utm_campaign=item_availability&utm_source=tas&utm_medium=nl
pre order up

https://i.imgur.com/FzDgSJK.jpeg Someone found the original ballroom photo in a Getty archive

https://bloody-disgusting.com/movie/3863263/original-stock-photo-used-for-the-shining-ending-discovered/

Woman at bottom right needs her own movie

https://i.postimg.cc/4xVSCgv3/IMG-3036.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vd7x_FlahKQ