Finally Coco starts playing! Still I liked Alaska's roast the best, but they were both funny and so was Jinkxy.
A lot of people didn't seem to buy Roxxxy's tears, but I was really touched. How can you be cynical about a story like that? And when you saw Untucked afterwards it made even more sense that she was in that headspace on the runway since they had just been talking about it backstage.
― LeRooLeRoo, Thursday, 14 March 2013 03:48 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah the Untucked scene brought it home. The girls have a pretty good bond it seems - is that common? I've only seen part of S3
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 14 March 2013 04:02 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah pretty hard NOT to be moved by that. TV is TV and 'reality' TV is a production and so forth, but there's a sense I get -- taken in part from RuPaul's own thoughts and comments in interviews, he's clearly big on working out from rough times via therapy/rehab/what have you, that life isn't just sass and fun and games and glamour -- that there's a priority in the show on those kind of emotional moments beyond drama for drama's sake. That's kinda patently obvious given the still massively homophobic world out there, but something like being abandoned at a bus stop, or (say) leaving a kid brother behind with an alcoholic mom compounds that. I think it's a big reason why the show appeals -- it's 'just' a series of sometimes goofy competitions, sure, but always underscored by something more.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 14 March 2013 04:30 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah the heart of the show, the human element of it, is a lot stronger than in other competition shows I've watched. It's really something
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 14 March 2013 04:35 (eleven years ago) link
Like, they do use those moments to hints at a downfall or a success but on shows like PR or Top Chef that's all they're there for. I like that even though it is used for drama, that's it's still treated as something that really happened to a person, and you see it's impact on the group & not just the contestant in a vacuum
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 14 March 2013 04:37 (eleven years ago) link
Hey neat, an interview with Jinkx
http://narkmagazine.com/culture/286-jerick-hoffer
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 March 2013 22:57 (eleven years ago) link
So did Ivyyyyyy really deserve to go so early? I thought she was gonna last longer than Coco & Alyssa. And for good drama, they should've lipsynched against each other last night. Coco deserved it imo.
― LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 19 March 2013 20:20 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, I was wondering. Bummer to see her go because that leaves Jinkx as the small/quieter one among five larger than life types. Still I almost think that'll pump her up a bit!
As long as Alaska's still in the running as well, I can't complain too much.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 March 2013 20:24 (eleven years ago) link
Bummer to see Ivy go because her face was a really gorgeous canvas, but ... she really didn't have a strong enough personality to go much further in this competition tbh. (I feel the same way about Roxxxy, too, for the record.)
My rankings of the six that remain:
1. Jinkx2. Detox3. Alyssa (think she's mad underrated)4. Alaska5. Roxxxy6. Coco
― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Tuesday, 19 March 2013 20:35 (eleven years ago) link
Alyssa looks good most of the time, but she is not the sharpest or most original girl in the world.
― LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 19 March 2013 20:50 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, it's clear hers isn't a case of selective editing but of a genuine lack of comedic chops.
But her look and carriage are, to me, clearly among the best in the field.
― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Tuesday, 19 March 2013 21:08 (eleven years ago) link
What happened to the Coco that was so hysterical calling out Selena in the second Untucked episode?
― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Tuesday, 19 March 2013 21:09 (eleven years ago) link
one of the judges said that alyssa walks the runway like a dressage horse which is 100% otm
― open the blood gates (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 02:02 (eleven years ago) link
Interesting that we're getting more backstory coming out now -- they just had a sneak of the first few minutes of the next show, and giving nothing away about the minichallenge, turns out Detox lost her boyfriend two years ago (as in boyfriend is dead, not just broken up with). Combined with Coco's story of her parents being gone and damn. Alaska's the only one left that isn't carrying a big backstory event that we know of (yet).
I thought it was interesting that in comparison Ivy's apparently had just a nice supportive upbringing, I guess, based on that chat with her mom. (Also, what a bummer. "Talk to you when I'm home!" *two days later* "Uh, guess what!")
I will say that the main challenge of the next episode involves telenovelas. I CANNOT wait. But for whatever reason it's not running until April 1.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 04:16 (eleven years ago) link
Oh and new Jinkx interview. But of course.
http://www.beautylish.com/a/vxrra/jinkx-monsoon-interview
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 04:17 (eleven years ago) link
Rewatched the runway presentation and the commercials and ... yeah, retroactively downgrading Alyssa and upgrading Alaska. The main reason? Alyssa looks fantastic every time, but that's partially because she looks basically the same every time. "Dressage horse" and a one-trick pony. But it's a great trick, et al.
Whatever else happens, I'm still too through with Coco. She's reading at a fourth-grade level.
― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 04:57 (eleven years ago) link
But her read on Aubrey O'Day was outstanding "....like she WON Celebrity Apprentice!"
Aubrey is ugh! trash! I hate that she gets on any show
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 05:02 (eleven years ago) link
but yeah, for the most part I think Coco has lost her grip completely
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 05:04 (eleven years ago) link
Aubrey is the definition of low-hanging fruit, tho.
― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 05:07 (eleven years ago) link
Well, maybe I should reword that.
No, you captured her perfectly well there.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 05:07 (eleven years ago) link
http://25.media.tumblr.com/d5ec601cf24bfaa63fe643fc1133002e/tumblr_mjx78nJkfJ1rosb88o6_250.gif
― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 05:22 (eleven years ago) link
Low hanging fruit is right. Yeah Coco's done.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 13:31 (eleven years ago) link
Going back to watch some of the Untucked episodes from previous seasons (of which I've only watched 2 & 3, the only two available on Netflix), I'm starting to get a sense of what's sort of bugging/underwhelming me about season 5.
Chiefly, the animosity this time around seems much more capricious, which is I think symptomatic of it being more obviously and unconvincingly engineered. I don't think there's a soul left who doesn't think Coco and Alyssa have been playing up their beef for effect, but as that vehicle has been running out of gas lately, it seems Coco's been stuck in step-off mode without a focused target.
There's no dynamic here anywhere near as compelling as Heathers vs. Boogers, though admittedly pageant vs. comedy seems like it will be a forever fertile field for flamewar (and Alaska puts that into great perspective).
― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 16:05 (eleven years ago) link
In that sense, Jinkx's transformation from comedy into potentially stunning runway queen is the true headline here.
― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 16:06 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i wouldn't be shocked to find she had some pro makeup artistry help for this shoot but holy smokes jinkxy!
http://i.beautylish.co/CiH5FGYFg4Wt_LAoJBJhtAPUBTo/orig.jpg
― open the blood gates (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 16:30 (eleven years ago) link
damn gurl
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 16:32 (eleven years ago) link
+ photoshop and a half, but still, great effect
― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 16:32 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.jinkxmonsoon.com/images/fullscreen/44.jpg
i love her
― open the blood gates (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 16:38 (eleven years ago) link
my six are:
JinkxDetoxAlaskaAlyssaCocoRoxxxy
I love Alyssa look, I love the way she carries herself and how graceful she is but she is missing a depth, not even comedy but just some kind of personality that makes her MORE than her look. I dunno, she doesn't quite feel like the complete package to me.
There is just something about Detox that I love. I like that she always just throws herself 100% into whatever's given to her, challenge wise. She doesn't always rise to the top but she seems to be in the moment. Jinkx is the same way.
Alyssa's too in her own head, I think is maybe where she falls flat? If she unclenched a little she'd be great. Same with Coco.
Roxxxy's all look and no substance. And she's getting really childish about her competition, the same way Coco is. I think they're both doomed to go in the next couple of weeks unless they stop looknig over their shoulder.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 16:49 (eleven years ago) link
oh and Alaska's just cool. A little less finessed, but she's fun.
alaska jinkx and detox are my top 3, but i'm sorry to say that i'm a little underwhelmed by detox
― open the blood gates (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 17:06 (eleven years ago) link
Further re: Jinkx one of those interviews talks about how her drag name comes from Eddie Monsoon of Absolutely Fabulous and that the conceptual goal is someone always intentionally just out of sync/behind the times. So yeah, total star.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 17:13 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, agreed on that. Season three built up to this kinda amazing kaleidoscope towards the end; I actually think the most dramatic moment was when Alexis and Yara ended up having to face off.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 17:16 (eleven years ago) link
The weird thing is this season could definitely have that same sort of squaring off. RoLaskaTox was fixing to be that powderkeg of mean girls, but it disbanded before any real drama could start, and all of them look the better for it.
It's weird, but this season's presumed frontrunners (Detox, Jinkx, Alaska) are all a lot more magnanimous in their dominance than, for instance, Raja or Tyra ever were. And good on them, but it's just a shade boring in comparison. I really go for Raja's unfiltered confi-dominatrix persona.
― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 17:30 (eleven years ago) link
Really, I just treasure every moment RPDR gave me to spend time with Raja. *gush*
i was very happy to see alaska display a different look on the runway, i think she's got to start displaying more variety in her makeup & silhouettes in order to maintain the judges' interest because the big bouffant look was starting to get way too predictable
― open the blood gates (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 17:32 (eleven years ago) link
i think raja's punk look for the music challenge in S3 was one of the best runway moments of RPDR, i still think about it
― open the blood gates (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 17:33 (eleven years ago) link
Yes.
― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 18:07 (eleven years ago) link
You KNOW I'm going to poll that during the off-season.
― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 18:13 (eleven years ago) link
you better!
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 18:14 (eleven years ago) link
Oh my jesus, I forgot all about Raja's Carrie dress.
― alternately mean and handsy (Eric H.), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 18:38 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah pretty much EVERY outfit Raja had:
1) confirmed why getting the crown was well deserved
2) insanely memorable
3) had SOMETHING out of left field
And yes as well to Raja sometimes coming out with those cutting/angry moments too -- I think that a lot of that came from her being older/more experienced/DGAF while following her own particular path earlier on in life. I half suspect Jinkx etc. would have that spark to them more clearly if they were in later on as well (Alaska definitely shows more flashes, especially now re:Detox/Roxxy). Where Coco, who IIRC is Raja's age at the time of season 3, seems in her career to have taken a way more conformist approach and is a little taken aback/does not get something that differs, thus the comedy slams. (See also Roxxy in the first episode being a little weirded out/confused by Jinkx and her eyepatch.)
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 18:44 (eleven years ago) link
jinkx has been in the top 3 for 6 consecutive challenges, don't think that's happened before
― open the blood gates (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 19:13 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, there's a lot of tumblr chatter about Jinkx's fanbase playing the victim card a little too conspicuously, when in reality, she's absolutely killing it on accumulated points.
― alternately mean and handsy (Eric H.), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 19:31 (eleven years ago) link
http://25.media.tumblr.com/59da0fc2674a183e927e26d9d2cd406c/tumblr_mjwbv7C6WU1qhb3e2o1_500.jpg
― alternately mean and handsy (Eric H.), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 21:36 (eleven years ago) link
loool
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 21:43 (eleven years ago) link
Weird that I didn't recognize Santino and his Brad Pitt jawline.
― Leeena Dunham (Leee), Sunday, 24 March 2013 20:21 (eleven years ago) link
I can't believe nobody has mentioned Jessica Wild's amazing performance of "He's The Greatest Dancer"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTeQ6Fom7hA
― boxedjoy, Sunday, 24 March 2013 21:04 (eleven years ago) link
Whoa, so weird not to hear them bleep out "don't fuck it up."
― alternately mean and handsy (Eric H.), Monday, 25 March 2013 02:50 (eleven years ago) link